[StopTheGrays]

This might fall under the "Well, duh." catagory.

THE GAME KEEPS GUN FOR PROTECTION

THE GAME

Rising rapper THE GAME is prepared to risk going to jail by keeping a gun at his California home, because he deems the firearm vital to his survival.

The hip-hop star - a protege of rap giant 50 CENT - was recently given cause to step up his security measures when he discovered his abode in the notoriously tough Compton neighbourhood of Los Angeles had been sprayed with bullets.

And The Game, real name JAYCEON TAYLOR, has no plans to hand over his AK-47 weapon to authorities - because it could ultimately lead to his death.

He says, "I wanna stay in my hood in Compton, and Compton is violent sometimes. I've been shot before, and rather than let another attempt happen, I'd prefer to go to jail.

"Rather do five years in jail for the AK than do an eternity in the hole, right?"
Rapper Keeps Gun for Protection (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/the%20game%20keeps%20gun%20for%20protection)

[Ukraine Train]

Sooo, uhh, didn't he just admit to violating a law? Did he give probable cause to get his house searched?

[boofus]

I wonder if by any chance that gun is registered with kalifornia law enforcement. Surely they won't make an exception to the law for a 'celebrity' will they. :mad:

[spacemanspiff]

i say let 'em keep it.

theres nothing quite like having gangbangers take each other out.



related side note - saw the movie 'be cool' last weekend. about the funniest thing was one of the rich 'bangers' kept having ND's. the last time he had one he throws the gun down and says "dont even give me a gun, you KNOW what i'm gonna do."
sadly, that was about the only funny thing in the movie.

[sturmruger]

What an idiot!! Not that i am suprised.

[cidirkona]

Thread hijack:

If you liked "be cool" check out "ALI G: In Da House." American gansta's British-ized... or something like that. I thought it was pretty funny.

Related tid bit:

Why doens't he just get weapons that are legal? I'm sure he can afford them...

-Colin

[Pilgrim]

I wonder if by any chance that gun is registered with kalifornia law enforcement. Surely they won't make an exception to the law for a 'celebrity' will they.

Unless he owned it on or before 1999, and registered it with DOJ, he has some serious problems. If it is truly an AK-47, he had to have it before 1990 and have registered it per the Roberti-Roos act.

It appears he is 24 years old. Hardly old enough to have legally purchased an AK-47 in 1989.

Pilgrim

[Joejojoba111]

Shouldn't this board be supporting him? I know he's rather different, but don't the fundamental principles apply?

His house was shot up, the rifle will be only to defend himself in his house. I think he's making a stand on principles, sound principles, and hope the best for him.

[spacemanspiff]

actually, the 'game' and 'fitty' have been having a war, exchanging gunfire at one anothers 'possees', all over ego. one side disrespects the other, vice versa, they shoot at each other, flee the scene, blah blah blah.

they are thugs. plain and simple. they are in 'fear' for thier lives only because they are behaving like gangstas.

another reason is that these particular shooters fall into the category of 'spray and pray'ers. ever see the screen shots of fitty cents video where they were shooting up some torso targets at the range? trust me, the safest place to stand while either side is shooting is directly in front of them. they are a danger to everyone around them.

[WillBrayJr]

I say that $%#@er needs to get a real gangsta gun like a Hi-Point, Tec-9 or some other POS and leave real firearms alone!

[Marko Kloos]

Here's the way I see it:

If Messr. The Game decides to do a drive-by on a rival with his AK, and he chooses the street where I just be-bop down the sidewalk, minding my own business and enjoying a frazzleberry slurpee, then his rear end is Astroturf, and I am the quarterback for the Patriots.

Until then, he has just as much of a right to firearms ownership as every other citizen, regardless of his profession, choice of music, or skin color. The Second Amendment does not come with footnotes; it recognizes everyone's right to keep and bear arms, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.

[No_Brakes23]

Snoop was bright enough to get a bodyguard back in the day, this clown should to.

Failing that...Hello AR, M1A, Ruger Mini-##, or SKS, all Cali legal (Only 10 rounds, though,) and very suitable for home defense. The SKS even has the handy bayonet.

I think the cosmetic ban is BS, but openly, verbally flaunting it is stupid, and he deserves to get his rifle confiscated.

[1911Ron]

umm Marko i wouldn't walk in Compton day or night :what: it ain't safe

[duck hunt]

Actually Fifty and The Game's highly publicized feud lasted less than a week. They had a big press conference where they announced they were making up and donating money to the Boys' Choir of Harlem in the name of their new G-Unity foundation.

[cracked butt]

I give him credit for keeping his rifle unlike most of the sheeple in California- you know the 'cold dead hands' crowd who shake in their boots over the California Assault Weapon ban. He's actually standing up for his civil rights instead of just giving them lip service.

[Don Gwinn]

Giving chest-beating interviews and shooting at other stupid people with platinum teef is not self-defense.

[duck hunt]

Thank you, Cracked Butt. I have a feeling if he were a country or rock artist, we'd be wrapping the 2a flag around him and hoisting him on our shoulders.

I used to go to cookouts and prayer meetings in Compton when I lived in Los Angeles. I didn't ever run into any problems. I guess it's all in who you're with and how you interact.

[cidirkona]

Personally, I don't care if you're a millionaire rapper on MTV or a burger wrapper down at McDonalds -- if you break the law, you should be held accountable for it.

-Colin

[TheFederalistWeasel]

WOW!!!

And here I was all along thinking that rap music didn’t cause violence…


:scrutiny:

[TheFederalistWeasel]

I have a feeling if he were a country or rock artist,


If he were a county music or rock artist you probably would not be reading about how his crib was sprayed in a drive by either…

When was the last time Kenny Rogers got into a fistfight, which escalated into rolling gun battle down the streets of Nashville?

Or David Lee Roth gave an interview about how his home was shot up by a rival gang member.

Apples and oranges my friend…

[cracked butt]

Personally, I don't care if you're a millionaire rapper on MTV or a burger wrapper down at McDonalds -- if you break the law, you should be held accountable for it.

If everyone had that attitude, Blacks would still be required to ride at the back of buses.

If he were a county music or rock artist you probably would not be reading about how his crib was sprayed in a drive by either…

So if he lives in a bad neighborhood, he should just move?



It was only maybe a decade ago when there was rioting and looting in L.A. and the only businesses that weren't burnt to the ground or looted clean were those run by Asians who defended their businesses with assault rifles. I guess they were just troublemakers too. :rolleyes:

[spacemanspiff]

whats the matter crackedbutt? didnt you know we're a bunch of closet-bigots? sheesh, were gunowners!


:neener:

i'll leave it up to the individual to determine how much sarcasm is in the above sentence.

[Master Blaster]

If he were a county music or rock artist you probably would not be reading about how his crib was sprayed in a drive by either…

No you would be reading about how he shot himself in the ass with it while he was swiggin jack daniels (ZZ Top). Or how he threatened his wife with it, or how he shot his girlfriend in the head with it(Phil Specter).

[Sean85746]

Good greif!

I absolutely support his 2nd Ammendment rights. (Here comes the HOWEVER)

However, do it in a manner consistent with NOT getting your butt in prison for a felony, and LOSING your rights altogether!

Game...get a legal gun, and stand firm!

P.S. Move to Bel Air.

:neener:

[Dionysusigma]

Personally, I don't care if you're a millionaire rapper on MTV or a burger wrapper down at McDonalds -- if you break the law, you should be held accountable for it.
So all they have to do is ban every gun outright, and you'd just hand 'em in because "It's the law, it must be right!"

:rolleyes:
I absolutely support his 2nd Ammendment rights...However, do it in a manner consistent with NOT getting your butt in prison for a felony, and LOSING your rights altogether!

Game... get a legal gun...

I wouldn't say this is supporting the 2nd Amendment at all. Remember the little bit at the end? "Shall not be infringed?"

It's not "A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall be allowed only where the State sees fit." :banghead:

[duck hunt]

Master Blaster, I am your new #1 fan.

Weasel, didn't Travis Tritt's son get shot by a speed-crazed trucker on the highway? He's a country singer.

Dimebag Darrell and John Lennon (both rock) and Selena (Tejano) were shot by crazed fans.

I can't imagine being a celebrity and NOT wanting to protect yourself, and I can't imagine pro-2a folks faulting anyone for that, no matter what kind of music they make.

[LiquidTension]

I have zero problem with this guy violating stupid Kali law. I do have a problem with the fact that he is frequently involved in illegal activities, such as "gattin' up da posse" of rival gang members - I mean rappers. If the rifle were only to be used for defense and fun that would be fine, but it's just not that far of a stretch for he or one of his gang buddies to use it in the next driveby caused by bruised egos.

[BlackCat]

Are you people really so stupid as to think that a rich, famous rapper is going to be doing a drive by??

As far as I've heard in his music he isn't affiliated with a gang anyway.

[spacemanspiff]

yes. yes we are. if by 'stupid', you mean we base our assumptions on the law of large numbers, considering the ratio of rap 'artists' involved in 'gangsta' activity is much larger than rock or country, then yes, we are stupid.


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1495231/20041230/ja_rule.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1480313/20031110/tha_eastsidaz.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1478232/20030915/sisqo.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1477088/20030820/run_dmc.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1472423/20030609/diplomats_rap_.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471985/20030520/diplomats_rap_.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471692/20030502/murder_inc_records.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471642/20030501/diplomats_rap_.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1458435/20021030/run_dmc.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1441921/20010320/lil_cease.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1441199/20010301/lil_kim.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1441083/20010228/lil_kim.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1440916/20010223/puff_daddy.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1438976/20010201/shyne.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431954/19980529/master_p.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431071/19991018/kurupt.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1429452/19980116/ghostface_killah.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1428091/20000420/digital_underground.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1427817/20000313/da_brat.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1427320/19991001/puff_daddy.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1427319/19991004/puff_daddy.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1425709/19990521/big_l.jhtml

[duck hunt]

I wouldn't say that stereotyping all the members of one group based on the actions of a few is the smartest thing to do, but I probably would have couched it in more polite terms.

Would you like me to make a list of all of the rap artists who have not been involved in gang activities? I hope you brought a lunch.

[NHBB]

this is just free press for him, anytime a rapper gets to interject that they have been shot before and talk real tough.. its good exposure.

[duck hunt]

What amuses me is how many people on this forum are buying the hype hook, line and sinker. These guys are entertainers. Everything they do is calculated to sell CDs. I used to work in publicity, and we made up glamorized street crap wholesale. One of your band members has to fly home from the tour because his dad is sick? Plant a story that he OD'd on heroin and had to have adrenalin shot into his heart. His wife is in labor? Tell the press he got in a fistfight after the show and hurt his hand so he can't play.

Most of these rappers would last five minutes on the street. They take meetings, study demographics and sit around with fifty year old guys in suits talking about target audiences and royalty splits.

The Game didn't just step into the recording studio fresh from a drive-by....he's been around the entertainment industry for "a minute," as the kids say. Here's a screenshot of him from a few years back appearing on the game show "Change of Heart" -- how street is that?

http://www.happyyoungpeople.com/2005_02_01_archive.html#110792504098411524

[Joejojoba111]

I didn't know that, but it does make sense. I'll have to keep it in mind. For the show, lol Burn, she ditched him!

[EasternShore]

Read the quote to HYP at the end of that. I want to meet the lucky @#$& shot 9 times in 9 seperate incidents (one shot per instance) that lived through all 9 shootings, ditto with 5...

Must be being shot by a blind man...

[Too Many Choices!?]

If not, I bet he has never been hit by a rifle round or anything above a 9mm/.38....If he has, then stopping power just became my issue of the day as I go and locate a .50 ae desert eagle or a SW .500 for concealed carry :uhoh: !!!! :evil: ;)

[Pilot]

The real problem here is not him having an AK in his house. The real problem is our kids are believing the rapper's message. Which is:

1. Violence solves all problems.

2. Never smile or look happy, it is considered weak.

3. Don't go to school or get an education.

4. Abuse women.

5. Dress like you're in jail.

It is destroying our culture and society.

[Too Many Choices!?]

If you have or want kids, do or will they listen to violent rap songs? Why would you try and place the blame of the failure of a parent to supervise their child on any entertaiiner or artist? Would you let a child whatch a porno movie? No? Then why would you let your child listen to adult language and adult material content??
IMHO, what you just said is a bad as blaming guns for ,"destroying our culture and society"....The only thing that is destroying this country is Parents and legislators both making bad choices.... :cuss: :neener: !!!!!!!!!!

PS Will Smith is a rapper and ",Gettin Jiggy Wit It","Summer Time" and ,"Parents Just Don't Understand" are some of his hits that stretch back to late '80's early '90's and into the '00's. Not one has a violent theme or parental advisory on the label. Please don't try to blame a parenting problem on anyone but the guilty party, the Parents!! :( Don't shoot the messanger if you don't like the message, just don't pass it along(especially to your kids) ;) !

[buy guns]

Are you people really so stupid as to think that a rich, famous rapper is going to be doing a drive by??


haha yeah. you did hear about what happened at the vibe awards, didnt you?

[dleong]

haha yeah. you did hear about what happened at the vibe awards, didnt you?
But they were shooting Hi-Points, so no one really got hurt. :D

DL

[Spreadfire Arms]

If you remember 15 years ago, rap artist Vanilla Ice (aka Robert Van Winkle) of Miami, FL, boasted that he "learned to rap on the streets" of Miami.

but in a TV interview they told him he went to an all-boys' prep school and he sung in the choir. choir boy :rolleyes:

guess he learned to rap in the boy's choir?

[Nuts_McGrath]

I think duck hunt and Too Many Choices!? have made an excellent point. Most of the replies in this thread are stereotypes or hypocritical. duck hunt pointed out that many people in hip hop or the entertainment industry altogether are fake. To badly paraphrase an old saying, any publicity is good publicity.

Too Many Choices!? points out the fact that there are people in this forum who are blaming a thing(for example, guns), rather than a person who is at the heart of a problem(like, I don't know, how about criminals?). You might not like "The Game's" message, but he has a right to say. All you have to do is not listen. Let me say this: If banning guns doesn't stop crime, banning music, TV, movies, or video games isn't going to do it either.

[BlackCat]

800 links....



From the few I looked at only one was related to a rapper firing a weapon. Shyne, he's in prison. The rest seem to be rappers being around people getting shot. No drive-bys either.

[squadfounder]

I support his choice, to be armed. In addition to the AK, he admitted in a rolling stone interview that he always carries a pistol for defense. As for acquiring a legal gun, I wouldn't be suprised if his past might prevent him from doing so. I don't know if he is a felon, but based on his past profession (crack dealer) it isn't unlikely. I wouldn't admit it if I were him, though. Why give criminals knowledge of your weapons, or the police probable cause?

[spacemanspiff]

Will Smith is a rapper and ",Gettin Jiggy Wit It","Summer Time" and ,"Parents Just Don't Understand" are some of his hits that stretch back to late '80's early '90's and into the '00's. Not one has a violent theme or parental advisory on the label

obviously you are forgetting 'mama said knock you out'.















wait, never mind, that was ll cool j.


"i think i can beat mike tyson", thats the one the Fresh Prince did. geez, talk about a trip down memory lane.

all i wanna do is a zoom zoom in your boom boom!
:neener:

[Too Many Choices!?]

Oh my God, somebody has late '80s early '90s knowlege of hip hop culture! Will wonders never cease!....And you know I was about to correct you about LL Cool J. also, :evil: . Glad you caught that :) .....

[Sportcat]

Looks like Spiff knows his MTV.com! :neener:

[carebear]

Left out a "zoom-a zoom" there spiffy.

:evil:

[No_Brakes23]

Pilot said...The real problem is our kids are believing the rapper's message. Which is...
Riiiight, because there is of course no violence, wannabe hardness, glorification of ignorance, mysogyny, or retarded costuming in Rock or Country.

Yeah, so the mullet headed, not-living-in-the-south-yet-confederate-flag-waving, toothless, dinnerplate-buckle-wearing, dead-beat parent, jobless, wifebeating, meth addicts I see at Country and Rock venues must have all been corrupted by Rap.

That "Africans are ruining everything with their devil-sex music" line was BS when it was about jazz, it was BS when it was about rock, and it is BS now when talking about hip-hop.

Please.

Blaming the medium is intellectually lazy as well as the excuse of crappy parents.

Music doesn't corrupt society anymore than firearms create violence.

[Sportcat]

Yea... the crappy parents aren't to blame :scrutiny: :barf: