"American Gun"


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q102josh
March 27, 2005, 08:29 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416471/

it's a movie i stumbled across on imdb... from the looks of it its gonna be a left-wing elitist anti-gun movie feeding people propoganda about how legally owned firearms are the ultimate evil of the world. on the message board there, someone brought up the point that the kind of people who are anti gun are rich people who live in sheltered suburban southern california communities where nothing bad ever happens, and if something ever does happen, the police will be there and have things under control in 5 minutes or less. these people who buy into this crap and make movies like this should try commin to west philly, or north philly, or other white-collar neighborhoods in philadelphia. they'll get killed with that kind of attitude. instead of makin movies about how evil guns are, they should be makin movies about how many lives are saved anually because of people with CCW permits.

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Stevie-Ray
March 28, 2005, 12:57 AM
What is it, a remake of James Coburn's last film?

Average Guy
April 15, 2005, 06:30 PM
I think it WAS Coburn's last film. I watched the trailer and then posted a reactionary "review" on IMDb. Someone called me a "gun nut" and one of the film's producers even sent me email. I retracted my comments and then actually watched the movie.

It wasn't particularly good, but it was different. You don't find out the truth about what really happened until the very end of the movie. There was still an obvious anti-gun bias, and I think that Coburn's line about the gun—"It killed my daughter"—was, while an understandable bit of denial by the character, also artistically disingenuous. In fact, now that I think about it, the whole plot—a distraught father traces the history of the revolver that "killed" his daughter (and I emphasize "killed" that so as not to spoil anything, but also to indicate its inaccuracy)—was utterly pointless. It would be like a father tracing the ownership history of a car than ran over his daughter—what would be the point?

whm1974
April 15, 2005, 08:53 PM
I just got this movie from Netflix. I'm wondering how far really would someone would get tracing all the (legal)owners of a gun.

My thought is unless the gun is only a few years old you would have trouble tracking it past the last person who brought(or had transfered) it from a FFL.

-Bill

Jim K
April 15, 2005, 09:52 PM
There have been several cases in which the press was able to trace guns by the simple method of getting surrepitious and usually illegal help from the police or BATFE. The antis in the LE community see nothing wrong with helping their friends in the press in what they all consider a good cause.

Jim

AG
April 15, 2005, 10:44 PM
The gun in that movie was used to save the life of its original owner, then it was used in a murder-suicide, and then it was used to kill James Couburn's daughter ....

Ummm that was one busy firearm ....

How many lives have your guns taken???

whm1974
April 15, 2005, 11:09 PM
I just might watch that movie tonite

-Bill

Standing Wolf
April 15, 2005, 11:25 PM
these people who buy into this crap and make movies like this should try commin to west philly, or north philly, or other white-collar neighborhoods in philadelphia. they'll get killed with that kind of attitude.

They've got more important things to do with their time than mix with commoners.

whm1974
April 16, 2005, 12:45 AM
Ok I'm watching the movie. It has nothing to so much about guns or agaist them but a family that is apart.

-Bill

whm1974
April 16, 2005, 07:09 AM
Ok I finished watching the movie. What really happend is that he shot his daughter coming up the stairs with his granddaughter's gun. The daughter got mugged and he was expecting the mugger to show up.

Watching the movies here are some tips:

1. Don't carry a gun in your purse or bag, Have it on your person.

2. Have a flashlight to make sure of your target. Or better yet have hall lights at the bottem of stairwells.

-Bill

Bear Gulch
April 16, 2005, 09:21 AM
But it is the evil gun's fault right?

Tom Servo
April 16, 2005, 11:12 AM
The gun in that movie was used to save the life of its original owner, then it was used in a murder-suicide, and then it was used to kill James Couburn's daughter ....
Must've been one of the ~2000 Lorcins (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/maps/map1.html) stolen from the plant by employees in sunny California. Those guns have been busy.

Seriously, who's ultimately to blame here? The father. It's rule #4. I came very close to breaking it once, and I nearly shot my roomate's girlfriend. Of course, it's not the shooter, it's the gun, so let's blame the industry that churns out cop-killing death machines that spontaneously fire tank-piercing projectiles with no user intervention. Euuch.

Majic
April 16, 2005, 11:26 AM
I watched the movie and really don't see where it was anti-gun. I guess you could find it if that's all you were looking for. The movie showed the revolver going thru legal and illegal ownerships. It was used in a legal SD, felony homicide then suicide, and mistaken home invasion. The revolver was just a means to get to end in the plot. The grandfather took the revolver from his granddaughter then traced her down with it.

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