Bayonet mount for Rem 870?

[madmike]

I know the military had some. I seem to recall Choate made a bolt on at one point. Anyone know of a commercial bayonet lug for the 870 now?

thanks

[Lee Lapin]

You're right, Choate once made such a creature, don't know if they still do. With no real way to lock it to the barrel it would do OK to hang a blade on the gun for looks, but as far as really using it... I doubt it could get enough of a grip on the barrel to hold. Don't see it listed in the current offerings.

The USMC contract 870Mk1 from several years ago had a bayo mount that included the front sight and a housing that slipped and clamped over both the barrel and the magazine extension tube, secured with three large screws. They show up for sale every so often. That's why Remington factory magazine extensions have that odd protuberance on the end BTW- it's where the ring on the current issue bayonet fits (if there happens to be a lug on the gun for it to mount to).

Don't know of anyone making such a thing currently but that's no guarantee someone isn't doing it. Some of the Mossberg 590s (the full length mag tube ones) have a bayo lug as issued from the factory. The currently available Norinco copy of the 1897 trench gun has a heat shield/bayonet mount, the shield and mount are available from Numrich ( http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=813820&chrSuperSKU=&MC= ).

hth,

lpl/nc

[madmike]

Thanks. I'd always suspected that attachment to a tube extension was weak. And bolting clamps around the barrel couldn't be too sturdy. It would take a sizeable sleeve to be strong enough.

Any other comments?

[Mesa Tactical]

We have been asked by several people to produce something like this:

http://www.mesatactical.com/images/clamshell_bayonet_mount.jpg

We are still looking at tooling costs, but we aren't sure whether we will ever do it. Generally, we get out marching orders from the law enforcement and military markets. We probably won't see much demand for this from law enforcement and so far only one military officer has expressed interested, in an unofficial capacity.

[No_Brakes23]

I carried one of the Marine Wingmasters with the bayonet lug when I was on guard duty at MCAS Yuma. All the examples we had looked like some real frankenstein jobs. Really crappy lookin stuff. Granted looks aren't what it is all about, but still. It is possible they were just beat up relics left over from before the switch to Mossy 500s.

I am trying to get my 870 shorter, not add more length up front, so that isn't I would be interested in for a bayonet. On the other hand, it might make a good accesory point for something else.

[Amish_Bill]

I've got one of the MOssy 590a1 models with the lug. It sure looks mean with the new style bayonet mounted, but I can't think of too much else of a purpose for it.

Of course, it's not like you need a purpose for something, now is it? :)

[JNewell]

I'll be the contrarian and suggest that if you really go through a real-life bayonet drill, you may find the weapon not much further use because the barrel may well no longer hit anywhere near where you expect* and may even be bent enough to cause functioning problems of one kind or another.

*Remember that at defensive ranges the shot pattern is generally tight enough that point of impact vs point of aim is a real life issue.

[Coronach]

Concur. Shotgun barrels, unlike rifle barrels, are quite thin.

Mike

[870]

The unit that Choate used to sell had to be silver soldered into place.

Remington stopped making their units with the bayonet lug a good number of years ago.

I believe Remington made the military unit (clamshell type) too.

870

[c_yeager]

Concur. Shotgun barrels, unlike rifle barrels, are quite thin.

Definatly. And mag-tubes are thinner still and likely even more vital to the function of the weapon. If your barrel gets slightly bent you will probably still be able to blow locks off of doors and engage targets that are REALLY close. With a bent mag-tube your gun turns into a fancy club.

[Rebar]

Here's how to mount a bayonet on a shotgun:
http://www.winchestercollector.org/images/guns/1897.jpg
http://www.winchestercollector.org/guns/1897shot.shtml
you need a barrel shroud too, to add rigidity and to protect your hands from a hot barrel.

[Bryson]

I fully support this proposition. If anybody can find out, I'll take three.