[Smiley]

I am looking for a good collapsable .22 that I can take backpacking with me on my land. I currently only know of two. The Marlin 70pss. Which I know nothing about and the Henry Repeating arms AR-7 to which I have not heard good things about. I also have a good friend who owned one and eventually sold it due to poor accuracy and jams.

Can THR please bring some other products to light for me and/or give a your opinions on the Marlin, and AR-7?

[Onslaught]

A pre-ban Ruger 10/22 with Choate or Butler Creek folding stock would be GREAT, but these days, a bit more pricey than your listed options... The folding stock by itself could run you as much as $90 - $125, while the rifle would be another $150+.

[SquirrelNuts]

I have an AR-7 that I like. They only problem I had was stovepiping with high velocity ammo. The regular velocity stuff works great. The Wally World Remington Golden Bullets feed great-never had a problem with those.

I paid $140 used.

-SquirrelNuts

[SquirrelNuts]

Onslaught,

I read your signature line-now that's funny!

-SquirrelNuts

[sonny]

Check this out.....

http://www.michaels-oregon.com/m_stocks_p.asp?grpky=274

[SquirrelNuts]

That is very nice. Any idea on OAL when it is folded up with the barrel removed?

-SquirrelNuts

[SquirrelNuts]

OK, just found it. 21"

-SquirrelNuts

[gino]

Taurus makes a nice pump-action 22 rifle. It comes in a stainless model with a 16" barrel. It's a take-down, so it shouldn't take up much space, but it might be a little on the heavy side for what you want. I've been eying one longingly, and all I've heard is good things about them.

[XYZsniper]

Henry makes a .22 cal. "survival" rifle right CT. The silver looks sharp.

Click Here (http://www.henryrepeating.com/survival.cfm)

[sonny]

Squirrel nuts .....let me know if you buy that folder...I have allready put too much into my 10/22 but I would love to know how good that thing works.
I think those survival rifles are junk and I know very few people that are satisfied with them......Mine was a POS.
You can't beat the track record of 10/22's and if the cost of the stock is not too much I think it is the way to go.

[larryw]

M6 Scout looks pretty good. Saw one shooting at the range the other day and I'm real tempted. 22LR or 22 Hornet, plus 410 shotgun (buck, bird or slugs). One I saw was chambered in 22 Hornet, I'd probably go the other route.

Primary complaint is the legal department's handguard keeps it from folding flat and can't be removed. But I'm sure that can be fixed easily (voiding warranty, but matching the USAF's original design).

Secondary complaint is that I'm still really bent at this manufacturer for their exceptionally poor service and inability to fix my TRP. But the M6 is so simple, I doubt they could mess it up.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-m6-m6rifles.shtml

Some edits because the SA website has no relevant info. M6 is a breakopen over/under double barreled rifle, it folds just in front of the interesting squeeze trigger. Chamber selector switch is easy to manipulate. Ammo store in the stock, both rifle and shotgun cartridges. If the handguard was (ahem) "missing", the barrels would fold flat against the bottom of the stock and it would be a small, light package. As it currently stands, the hanguard gets in the way and the best it closes to is about 30 degrees. Current design is longer than USAF's due to Federal minimum barrel lengths, in this case, shotgun.

[Dave Markowitz]

The Winchester 9422 takes down into two halves using only a quarter. They are quite accurate, to boot.

[Handy]

My brother had a Scout, but found the trigger lever disruptive to field accuracy. So he bought a Papoose. The construction, accuracy, price and accessories made the Marlin a great .22 rifle, not just a great takedown .22.

10/22 is a wonderful arm, but Marlin makes a really terrific product for a very fair price. It would be my top choic for a backpack gun by a fair margin.

[Triad]

larryw, I believe the M6 is actually made in the Czech Rep. by CZ.

[Artful]

Tried the Armalite AR-7 -
works but not the best but did like the floating feature...

Next tried the Marlin 39 - breaks down but you can lose the ejector - heavy - accurate + - still not there for all the time use.

Next tried folding stock 10/22 - not as accurate as when in regular stock - still can't cover all situations - high capacity doesn't come into play when hiking. nope not the one

Tried S&W handgun 22LR, .357 & 44 mag - nope not for survival use.

Next Savage over under 22LR / 20 GA
Light weight :)
- you can get in several different guages/caliber combinations :)
- you can mount a scope with quick take off , I mounted a peep sight - take the insert out for ghost ring :)
- you can order in a short model that comes w/ a floating case that holds extra ammo and when taken down doesn't go over 19 inches - extra ammo stores in buttstock also so you can't leave home without it. :)
- we have a winner at least for me.
:D

NEF handi rifle/shotgun could be another model to consider - I also have friends who swear by Norinco ATD (copy of browning auto where the barrel comes off for transport)

[Crimper-D]

The little Browning .22 automatic. :cool:
Ut's a takedown, weighs less than 5lbs, and shoots like crazy!

Hey! It's a Browning - what else would you expect?:D :neener:

[sonny]

A little pricey but you do get what you pay for.....

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/leverAction22/Golden39A.htm

[dude]

the Marlin Papose if a real nice rifle......but methinks by your post that you desire a collapsable/folder stick rifle that you would not have to assemble to shoot. I wanted the same as I spend lots of time out in the woods but found a folder 10/22 to bulky and changing my mind a bit happily setteled on one of these for a survival 'rifle':
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976313512.htm

lightweight aluminum, wicked accurate and never a problem now 8 years or so later

[larryw]

Triad, if CZ instead of SA is indeed the manufacturer, I'll post a range report as soon as mine arrives. :cool:

[Andrew Wyatt]

what about one of the H&R handi- rifles?

they break down into a small (barrel length) package and aren't goddawful heavy.

[VictorLouis]

So far, I'm very pleased. It held under 1/2" at the 25yd. with Win. X-22 bulk and a scope. Use with the stock buckhorns opens it a bit. I'd like to get a barrel mount for the scope and need to search the Brownell's catalog. That, and a nice rear peep which can go on the receiver's scope mount grooves will be nice additions.:)

The quality of the mags is first rate. All-steel, nickled, compact and easy to load all 10. The trigger, as with all such guns leaves a bit to be desired, but I'll handle that someday. It takes less than 20secs. to screw on the barrel, incl. tightening it with the included spanner wrench.

[Kentucky Rifle]

I compared it to the other little take-downs and it is way ahead in quality. Stainless barrel, nice mags, and comes in a little case that floats. I think I remember the weight correctly- 3.25 lbs. Mine has been a great little rifle. Lots of fun to shoot.

KR

[Jackanape]

Does anybody know which CZ manufactures the Springfield Armory M6? Is it CZ Uhersky Brod, or CZ Strakonice? The reason I ask is that my CZ 452 (CZ U.B.) is a great rifle, but my .22lr AR-15 upper was made by CZ Strakonice and it's not so good. If CZ U.B. makes the M6 I just might get one... Please advise.

[gino]

FFL I know says that the M6 Scout rusts VERY easily. He recommends to only buy the one in stainless steel, but that even it rusts faster than expected.

[goon]

Thanks for the reports on the Marlin Papoose. I have been thinking about one of those for awhile, and I think I am gonna get one next.
Well, maybe another M-39 first...:D

[ajacobs]

It is indeed manufactured by cz and they are a pile of rust waiting to happen. I don't have mine infront of me to tell you which cz but it has a stylized cz with the letters forming sort of a circle if that helps.

[crewzer]

I know you are looking for a rifle, but why not get a Ruger MK II with an 8" Bull Barrel? Compact and very accurate.

[Kharn]

Larryw:
Primary complaint is the legal department's handguard keeps it from folding flat and can't be removed. But I'm sure that can be fixed easily (voiding warranty, but matching the USAF's original design).

Got Dremel? :evil:

Kharn

[asdaf]

I'll defend the AR-7. My experience is limited to only two different rifles but, they were both accurate, comfortable, a lot of fun to shoot. Plus they maintained these qualities through multiple disassemblies. The peep sights work well for me; some of my friends couldn't pull off drive-by quality shooting with them. They are almost as easy to pack (in you gear, not on your person) as a handgun. Finally as a guy who has spent a lot of time on boats and in float planes I am very appreciative of anything that floats. Maybe I just got lucky twice in a row but I would be willing to get another anytime.

[Dr.Rob]

Shooting an AR-7 takes practice, and you guys should know by now you can't touch the barrel or rest it on samething and expect .5 moa at 50 yards.

The AR 7 had some neat features (full sized stock.. made for a man not a child, it floats, it's light, and it was fairly inexpensive) but it was NEVER designed to be a main hunting or plinking rifle. The AR 7 was designed as a USAF survival rifle at a time when a mainline rifle was only doing 3-4 MOA at 100 yards. It's NOT a 10-22T and never will be.

The Browning is a great example of light wieght, portable AND accurate. but pricey.

[Bobarino]

if your neighbors don't mind a little more noise, check out the Kel-Tec Sub 2000. i just bought one and its a hoot to shoot and folds to 16 inches and uses cheap-o 9mm ammo. www.kel-tec.com
too bad it doesn't come in a .22 version. that would be really fun.

Bobby