[StopTheGrays]

A friend at work sent me some pics he got from a person in his shooting league. I did a quick search and could not find any other postings of these pics recently.

I do not know anything about the loads the owner was using but I just thought I would share the pics in case someone was curious as to what could happen to a glock that got some loads that might have been too hot.

[trickyasafox]

sorry the pics weren't showing up but now they are.

[ZeroX]

Ouch.

[Bill2k1]

Every time I see pictures like that it makes me nervous learning to reload for my glock. Was the shooter hurt badly?

[Zak Smith]

that got some loads that might have been too hot.
Understatement, ya think?

Try a double charge, or shooting through a prior squib.

Glocks 9's can digest a steady stream of +P, which translates to a 124gr @ 1300+fps.

[Gewehr98]

You could take the old slide, and just add a new barrel and gripframe to be back in business! ;)

[308win]

Makes me wonder if this failure would have happened if these were in fact reloads and the case would have been properly supported by the chamber? Not trying to reignite a Glock flame war as this could happen with any pistol in which the case isn't supported. My 1991A1 and my XD both support the casehead on the feedramp side of the chamber.

[StopTheGrays]

Every time I see pictures like that it makes me nervous learning to reload for my glock. Was the shooter hurt badly?

I do not know. A coworker forwarded me an email he got from someone who had forwarded it to him. There was no other text except "Be carefull with your handloads".

[JohnKSa]

Makes me wonder if this failure would have happened if these were in fact reloads and the case would have been properly supported by the chamber?How does a case failure due to an overly generous feedramp blow out the SIDE of the gun?

[The Bushmaster]

Plastic???

[R.H. Lee]

Wonder if they were lead bullets? Polygonal (sp?) rifling does not like lead bullets.

[bigjim]

People are jumping to conclusions. We have no evidence at all that it had anything to due with the Ammo.

It could very well have been a momentary lapse in Glock perfection.

[Kevlarman]

Wow, a .45 no less!

Makes me wonder how a steel gun would have handled the ammo (if indeed the ammo was at fault). Would the frame simply peel away like a banana, or turn into a hand grenade?

[Rico567]

With the .45, I'm betting on a double charge. There's plenty of room in the case to do it, depending on the powder. Also, normal pressures here are nothing like as high as 9mm. Normal operating pressures for .45 Auto are around 16K psi, while 9mm cooks at 35K or so.

[tc300mag1]

OUCHY but that was a hand stinger at the least

[Third_Rail]

I'm impressed that the gun held up. Score one for customer safety, Glock!

[bigjim]

Third rail,

Did you look at the same pictures? The ones at the start of this thread?
Maybe I came late and missed the pictures where the Glock held up.

[Rockstar]

The plastic frame has absolutely no impact on whether a firearm KB's. Probably a doublecharge or squib. I'll trust Occam over Speir, any day.

[Bronson7]

The plastic frame has absolutely no impact on whether a firearm KB's. Probably a doublecharge or squib. I'll trust Occam over Speir, any day

Amen to that
Bronson7

[Third_Rail]

bigjim, have you seen what someone's hand looks like after a METAL pistol kbs? It isn't pretty, and polymer is a whole lot more springy.

[bigjim]

Third Rail,

Why yes I have. I KB'd a Colt delta with a hot reload and bullet setback
combo punch. Blew the case head out over the feed ramp and blasted the mag out of the bottom of the gun. Bulged the Pachmyer grips ( with steal incerts). Other than that no damage.

Clean and oil and I was back shooting. It would take some really good oil to get that Glock back in the game.

[Third_Rail]

I think we're on different pages, here...

To me, that Glock is ruined - by "held up" I mean it didn't fragment and injure/kill the shooter.

[The Bushmaster]

I once bought a box of Remington .45 +P ACP factory ammo and was running it though my Chronograph when lo and behold I had a very loud report and major recoil and a reading of 1300fps. I completely disassembled that Steel Colt Series 80 and inspected it with a magnifiying glass. Reassembled it and continued shooting. I wonder if the Glock would have stood up to that...?

[Standing Wolf]

I'll bet you could fix it with enough duct tape.

[The Bushmaster]

Oh yeah, Standing Wolf. Forgot about the hundered mile an hour tape. Fixes everything. L O L.....

[P95Carry]

Prez of my IDPA club had an ''event'' in 2003 - I eventually borrowed his barrel to photograph - which you'll notice was not a Glock barrel but a KKM - and posted some pics.

This thread here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127844)

Some may have seen it but - for those who haven't - it sure does show a barrel that has had its day!!!

[Grump]

We have a chamber breach [NOT "breech" :rolleyes: ] illustrated here. Look at the compression crazing on the right side of the chamber, just above the mid-line. That's from the chamber letting to at the thin spot at about 5 o'clock, and bending outward below that slightly crinkled area.

Ain't no "mere" unsupported casewall blowout failure, like most .40-plug Glock kB!s. Thus, it removes itself from the typical situation discussed in Dean Speir's reporting. Occam's razor cannot be applied until you look for evidence to distinguish this chamber failure's cause from either 1) just overpressure or 2) normal pressure combined with a steel defect (think of the bad M1A barrel that blew 2 years or so ago in CA).

Of course, I'd like to see anyone apply Occam's razor to decide whether the chamber failed because of a steel defect combined with overpressure that a good barrel would have survived.... Physical evidence trumps statistical frequency. :neener:

[bigjim]

Third rail said:I think we're on different pages, here...

To me, that Glock is ruined - by "held up" I mean it didn't fragment and injure/kill the shooter

I guess you have some back ground on this the rest of us don't. I did not see anything in the original post that indicated the shooter was not injured.

I would be almost sure the shooter got some brass chunks and hot gas burns
to the face which is almost a given for these types of blow ups.

TR one of us is just in love with the sound of his own voice. It must be me since you seem to know more about this incident than I do. I will with hold further comments.

[Rockstar]

I personally know two people who've blown up Glocks. Neither had any brass chunks or any other debris to the face. One had a sore finger. Neither had any burns. Both incidents involved bad reloads.

[Mikul]

I knew a guy shooting his .40 reloads out of a Glock. The report was pretty loud, so I asked him what load they are. 185gr bullet. How fast are they going?

1,300fps.:eek:

Do you think I should stop shooting them?
Nah, you're only 200fps over max.

He must have fired 200 of them that day.