[Marko Kloos]

My local shop has three NEF 10ga. single-barrel shotguns in store. The barrels are massive, and the breech looks like it's for an artillery shell.

They come from the factory with 24" barrels, I believe. As I was looking at them, I couldn't help but imagine how cool one of those would look if a 'smith chopped the barrel to 18.5". My gunsmith has done such work on many occasions with the 12ga. NEF, so he just shrugged and said, "Sure...it'll cost you $20 on top of the price for the gun."

A short, single-tube 10ga. may not have any practical use at all, so why do I find myself pondering that idea suddenly?

Does anyone still make 10ga. slugs? :D

[BigG]

Want to fire this thing? You first! :o

[sm]

19" bbl (better to be a bit long, than short)

Federal load #F103RS
3.5" ,1 3/4 oz slug, MV 1200,ME 2785

yep, kinda demands respect just seein' the bore--THEN whup out the load....

[Soap]

I hate porting...but I would consider it on that beast.

[Phyphor]

Jeeze, why not go all the way and buy a cannon and load it with grapeshot? :D

[M. Jager]

Only one question-
Where do I send the resume to be the first one to shoot that beast? :D

[Marko Kloos]

That project would run under $200 out the door, including gunsmithing work. Hmmmm....

I have it on good authority that the NEF 10ga will rattle your fillings, even with the lead weights in the stock. That's just the kind of demented blunderbuss that's missing in my collection.

[gburner]

I did something similar to a 12ga. Topper 88. Cut the barrel down to 20 inches, cut 2 inches off the buttstock,
put a shell cuff and sling on it. I highly recommend weighting the butt and putting on some padding.

BOOM, y'all!!!!:what:

[Sir Galahad]

I've thought about that, too! I just don't see 10 gauge shells around too many places.

[454c]

I saw one of those the other day.Made my shoulder hurt just looking at it,and you want to make it lighter!!!!:what: Give us a report.On the gun and hospital bill.:D

[bernie]

When I was a kid, I read in a second hand Soldier of Fortune (mom did not like that magazine at all, for some unknown reason) about a guy that did just this thing as "fighting" firearm. I think they called their gun the "roadblocker."

[Mike-SoCal]

Lendringser,

Do it! Cut that barrel down to 18"-20". Of course, you'll lose the choke, but with buckshot/slugs at close range, it shouldn't make much difference in the potential carnage ;)

I've always wanted one big bore shotgun/rifle so I just picked up a Spanish 10ga SxS. Next step will be to have the barrels cut to 19" and the stock & recoil pad fitted to my specs. Fortunately, the gun weights in at 12+ lbs, three more than the NEF.

10ga slugs from Federal & 00 Buck from Winchester are on the way.:uhoh:

Mike

[Correia]

"Demented Blunderbuss"

Now that is a good name for a rock band! :D

[sm]

quote: "Demented Blunderbuss"

Not the name I gave it--I can't post that one.
Seems the farmer that did this got the idea from the old 'boiler guns", thought it would be neat. He didn't keep it long, seems he found another victim...errr interested buyer that thought it would be neat.

It did do a number on an old truck door...Yikes!
Yes I cheated, I use a past shoulder pad--they need to make one for one's face...

[Zorro]

A short, single-tube 10ga =

A shoulder fire Claymore Mine.

:evil:

[Mike-SoCal]

Zorro,

"A shoulder fired claymore mine"

That's the goal :D

Mike

[Dave McCracken]

I saw one of these some years back on consignment at a now defunct gun shop nearby. It had the Full Monty, camo paint, sling with shell loops for about 10 shells, and a shortened but legal barrel.

I asked about it, and the counter man said it had been fired, ONCE.

Best guess, it weighed about 4 lbs less than needed for comfort.

As for defense, shoot it at a perp and whoever gets out of the hospital first is the winner.

OTOH, one of these set up with some extra weight and tuned handloads of Hevishot or other non tox shot would make a good pass shooting shotgun for folks on a budget.

[Ewok_Guy]

If you do decide to get that beast don't forgot to have the stock chopped off. :cool: :uhoh:

[Midnight]

I would definitely port it. 1) to make the recoil more manageable (like its ever gonna be nice :p ) and 2) to make the cool factor even more amplified by its incredible boom!!!

[Okiecruffler]

Get rid of that nasty stock and put a pistol grip on there.:evil:

[Dave McCracken]

John, I know you're kidding, but think of the Karmic Burden if someone took you seriously!

[Lord Grey Boots]

A recent American Shooter show showed a 4 guage black powder rifle.

Breach loaded single shot. Used by African explorers in the 1870's. As in "Dr. Livington, I presume?".

Fired something like a 2200 grain slug.

Our friend the American Shooter host, was shown firing one.

[EJ]

My Son Corey used to love recoil -- :rolleyes:

He also enjoyed terrorizing othert shooters by letting them fire a "kid's: gun -- he was 16-18 at the time--

He had a NEF 10 Ga which he cut to eighteen inches and took the weights out of --
It was unbelievable-- :uhoh:

[natedog]

What you really need to do is get it sawed off to 8 inches or so, pay tyhe $5 tax, cut the stock down to a pistol grip, and practice cocking/reloading it Terminator style (just having to do a quick spin mtion with your wrist and it automatically loads itself and extracts, just like Arnold!

[Detritus]

when i first started shooting Cowboy Action matches i looked into getting a 10ga SxS and having it cut to "coach gun" (18-20") length. adn stoking it with Blackpowder (which surprisingly gives less "felt" recoil (it pushes instead of kicking sharply).


was gonna call it "the PIECEmaker" :D (there is a long story behind this, involving the character from a Sci-fi/fantasy series that my screeen name is based on. let's just say a 10ga sawed off would have been the real world equivilent of that character's favored arm)


unfortunately my economic staus took a down-turn before i was able to find an acceptable "canidate for conversion" and the project fell to the wayside. but i STILL want to do it one day. of course mild loadings, a Deadmule recoil reducer, adn a VERY good recoil pad, along with as much weight as i could add without screwing up balance would be necessities.

[dance varmint]

People say of the 12 ga that you should be able to handle the recoil with proper form and fit. Why has nobody above said this is true of the 10 ga?

[JeFF D]

A friend of mine and member of THR has a NEF 10 gauge that I've put about 12, 2 1/4 ounce shells through, most in one day was 5. I really dont think its all that bad. I sure expected it to be worse, The tingling and numbnes goes away after a couple of minutes. I'm only 5' 7" and weigh 145 pounds too. I think you old guys (im 16) tend to exaggerate a little bit or maybe you just cant take it anymore....:D :neener:

[ahadams]

I dunno - now theoretically you might actually reduce recoil slightly simply because all the powder wouldn't have a chance to burn. OTOH I know of a LEO dept in the southwest that bought one of those 10 gauge "Roadblocker" shotguns when they first came out: it did a great job of removing car radiators, doors, and such when somebody tried to run a road block, but they ended up having to draw straws since nobody in the dept was overly fond of firing the stupid thing.

maybe you might want to pattern it with 'turkey loads'? and see how it does?

[Nightcrawler]

I have an NEF "Pardner" 12-ga with the barrel shortened to 20". I made the mistake of firing 3" magnum slugs through it before installing the rubber slip-on recoil pad.

The sixth shot made my whole left arm tingle. I had a nasty, deep bruise and a screw-shaped welt in my shoulder for two weeks. I coudln't shoot off of that shoulder for the rest of the week.

Now, with the recoil pad, I love that gun. :D

[Dave McCracken]

Varmint, the NEF so grossly violates the Rule of 96 that good fit and form are not enough to guarantee comfort.


Jeff D, in all likelyhood a few years from now you'll look back on your statement,wince and try to forget you ever wrote it.

[Mike-SoCal]

For those who might be curious,

12ga 2.75", 1 oz load @ 1125 fps from a 7.5 lb gun = 15.8 ft lbs of
recoil energy.

12ga 3.", 1.5/8 oz load @ 1280 fps from a 7.5 lb gun = 52. ft lbs.

10ga 3.5", 2.25 oz load @ 1210 fps from a 10 lb gun = 62.9 ft lbs.


By way of comparison to rifles:


.30.06 Spfd. with a 165gr bullet @ 2900 fps from an 8 lb gun = 20.1 ft lb of
recoil energy.

.458 Win. Mag with a 500gr bullet @ 2100 fps from a 10 lb gun = 57.2 ft lbs.

.600 NE with a 900 gr @ 1950 fps from a 12 lb gun = 154 ft lbs.


Info from: www.chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm and www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

[Kalindras]

Modern. Howdah. Pistol.

:evil:

Put me on the (exceedingly short, I'm sure) "Wanna play with it" list!! Y'know...I'm still wondering if Hand_Rifle_Guy ever got around to cutting down that Kodiak .72 BP rifle into a howdah...?

Kal

[Elmer Snerd]

Just go whole hog and getcha some 20mm cannon shells.

[Shweboner]

I cut my NEF 12 down to 18.5, recoil is a bit rough...
But a 10? Wow, thats asking for trouble;)

Isn't the NEF 10ga bbl rifled? WHat kind of range does that sucker have?

http://psr.freeyellow.com/sawed-off.jpg

[Justin]

Why oh why does this idea seem to present a certain twisted appeal to my horribly bent mind?

Probably because the words 'shoulder fired claymore' would sound so cool when uttered at the range...right until said shoulder fired claymore is actually employed, I'm sure.

[Zorro]

Not REALLY, I got questioned about the "Severe Muzzle Blast" of a .338 Winchester Magnum, while I was fireing it on the National Forestry Range there.

The one 10 Miles from Manitou Springs.

AF Academy, Star Fleet Academy, Same thing!

[cslinger]

I don't want to shoot the beast but I am in middle TN and would consider it an honor if you invited me to watch you break your shou.....ahhh I mean shoot this thing for the first time.

I would love to be there to provide medical atten....ahhh I mean moral support.

Chris:D