UK gangster killed by "fob gun"


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Preacherman
March 31, 2005, 08:05 AM
From the Telegraph, London (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;sessionid=OZM15R05CX12LQFIQMFCM5WAVCBQYJVC?xml=/news/2005/03/31/ngunn31.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/03/31/ixhome.html):

Gangster, 19, 'killed himself by accident' with key fob gun

By Nigel Bunyan
(Filed: 31/03/2005)

A teenage gangster has become the first victim of a craze for miniature "designer" guns disguised as key fobs.

Fabian Flowers, 19, a member of Manchester's Longsight Crew, is believed to have shot himself in the head while trying to test the weapon's apparently faulty firing mechanism.

Friends who were with him immediately fled the lap-dancing club where the test firing took place.

The tiny gun - just over 4ins long and with a barrel extending a mere 1½ ins - has never been recovered.

Dozens of similar weapons have been smuggled into Britain from Bulgaria in the past 18 months. They are sold initially as novelty flare guns but then modified by criminals to fire twin .25 bullets.

The weapons, which change hands for several hundred pounds, are notoriously unstable and lack accuracy. However, at point-blank range they are lethal.

Early users were attracted to key fob guns because rivals did not recognise them as firearms, and many criminals regard them as fashion accessories.

The gun is cocked by pulling part of the key ring. Two buttons on the sides of the box-shaped fob are pressed to fire it, while a third opens it for reloading.

So far police have recovered 16 of the guns. All but two had been in the hands of Manchester drug gangs.

Last November police in the city issued a warning about their increasing popularity and made clear that any criminal caught with a key fob gun would face a minimum five-year prison sentence.

It is thought that at the time of Flowers's death he and his predominantly young gang were involved in a turf war with more established criminals.

On Feb 23 last year a group of youths, including some members of the Longsight Crew, were at the High Society club in Stockport.

At some point in the evening Flowers went to the lavatory with some of his friends. Police sources suggest someone had recently borrowed the key fob gun and was returning it.

An inquest yesterday heard that Flowers's final words to his friends were: "I'm going to put it to the test - watch."

One friend said: "He put it to his head and I heard a bang. I got the impression that he thought the safety catch was on and it was perfectly safe."

The gangster died from a single wound to the head. Police initially suspected he had been the victim of a gangland killing but became convinced that he had died at his own hand.

Flowers's family have rejected the police view of his death and maintain that he was indeed murdered.

After John Pollard, the South Manchester coroner, recorded an open verdict, Flowers's mother, Jackie Fetherston, repeated her assertion that his death was not an accident. "My son wouldn't put a gun to his head," she said.

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I did some further research on this, and found this article (http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/150/150915_man_jailed_over_key_fob_gun_.html) about another such gun in England. It contained the following photograph:


http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/835.$plit/C_17_Articles_150915_BodyWeb_Detail_1_Image.jpg


Wierd-looking thing, isn't it? - but at contact distance to the head, it seems to work!

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jobu07
March 31, 2005, 08:09 AM
Very intelligent of him... :rolleyes:

Tim Burke
March 31, 2005, 08:19 AM
Watch this!

agricola
March 31, 2005, 08:25 AM
far be it from me to laugh

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :neener:

Model520Fan
March 31, 2005, 08:41 AM
Self-cleaning gene pool.

El Tejon
March 31, 2005, 08:42 AM
"Oi, right then, chumley, hold my ale."

Gunchester? He was a Geordie then, aye?

c_yeager
March 31, 2005, 08:44 AM
Fabian Flowers, 19, a member of Manchester's Longsight Crew, is believed to have shot himself in the head while trying to test the weapon's apparently faulty firing mechanism.

Seems to have worked just fine to me. In fact I think this counts as a much needed "one shot stop" for the lowly .25ACP, and on a badguy, no less.

Jim K
March 31, 2005, 08:58 AM
I'll bet the Brit cops are going berserk, probably shooting on sight everyone with a key chain. Their great gun ban is being evaded! Worse, crooks are getting guns!

Of course to the anti-gun way of thinking, that is fine. Sen. Lautenberg once said that he didn't give a damn about crime, he wanted to disarm the people. Nice guy.

Jim

Remington788
March 31, 2005, 09:05 AM
Ignorance is its own reward! :evil:

threeseven
March 31, 2005, 09:07 AM
The British cops won't be shooting anything, they don't have any guns.

GEM
March 31, 2005, 11:42 AM
I was at a criminology conference and once picked up a copy of a UK police journal explicitly aimed at weird concealed weapons. Quite the thing over there because of their different weapons culture.

Joejojoba111
March 31, 2005, 01:45 PM
Wait till they find out we were air-dropping the same things in .45 by the thousands all over Europe 50 years ago, they'll crap themselves.

Bear Gulch
March 31, 2005, 01:49 PM
The gun was never recovered and his mates fled. Makes this look less like an accident and more like a "doing".

JackShandy
March 31, 2005, 02:03 PM
The gun was never recovered and his mates fled. Makes this look less like an accident and more like a "doing".

I don't know; this reminds me of a bunch of kids getting together, deciding to do something reeeeaaally stupid ('bet I can jump my mom's car on my bike...'), and then running away when the 'daredevil' gets seriously hurt. They just didn't want to be there when the cops showed up.

As far as the gun being missing...ya got me there.

Sistema1927
March 31, 2005, 02:12 PM
"When guns are outlawed, only criminals will have guns."

Never were truer words spoken.

(Did anyone notice, in the attached 2nd article, the two references to "gangster style pose"? I have to wonder what that looks like when you are pointing one of these things.)

OF
March 31, 2005, 02:19 PM
An inquest yesterday heard that Flowers's final words to his friends were: "I'm going to put it to the test - watch."BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wow.

- Gabe

Bear Gulch
March 31, 2005, 02:21 PM
Well if they are worth "several hundred pounds" some witness took off with it to sell it.

Standing Wolf
March 31, 2005, 03:49 PM
Friends who were with him immediately fled the lap-dancing club where the test firing took place.

1. I had no idea that's why people frequent lap dancing clubs.

2. I'll bet he's disappointed in his friends.

fredcwdoc
March 31, 2005, 04:14 PM
They have specialized units called "armed cars" to support the 90% of them who don't have firearms. When they run into an armed bad guy they go into a staging mode and wait for an armed car to arrive. 9 times out of 10 the bad guy does not wait around for the armed car to arrive. How unsporting of them.

P95Carry
March 31, 2005, 04:24 PM
"My son wouldn't put a gun to his head," she said. B... B....b... ut - it wasn't a gun! It was a ''fob'' and it didn't work - so naturally it needs tested!! :rolleyes: :p

It was - in fact - an ''assault FOB'', yep, that's it.

cls12vg30
March 31, 2005, 05:13 PM
They have specialized units called "armed cars" to support the 90% of them who don't have firearms.

Yeah, and have you seen the garish paint jobs they paint the "armed cars" in? They do everything except put neon signs on the roof that say, "WARNING! There are evil evil guns in this car, everyone run away!! They may start going off at any minute!!"

Or, depending on your agenda, the sign may simply say, "Steal this car." :evil:

I always love when the Police Videos shows show footage from the U.K., and if the bobbies see that a BG is or might be armed, they scatter like roaches when the lights go on.

Ridiculous country.

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