Lotsa $$: Rings/mount by Farrell, Badger,DD Ross etc. Worth it?
Buckskinner
March 12, 2003, 09:06 PM
I'm setting up a Rem 700 Sendero in .300 WM. I don't want to be the last one on my block who doesn't have a "long range precision shooting system".:rolleyes:
The rifle has an Answer Systems muzzle break and recoil pad. When I pick it up, after I've "cooled off" for 8 more days, I'll start to mount the glass. The glass that came with it is a Burris Signature 8-32X44 with Fine Plex reticle. Its long and heavy. The mounts are standard Leupold, and that's the rub. Is it just me? Have I been brainwashed into wanting more "tacticality", or robustness? To me these mounts look kinda rinkydink. My only other scoped rifles use ruger rings or claw mounts:D
So while shopping Brownell's, and the various gun auctions, I thought I'd put it to the TFL/THR brain trust...
Is the money worth it for the Farrell, Badger, Ross rings/mounts?
I may do some Sacramento Valley Sniper competitions with this rig. I want to be able to "aim small, shoot small", to the best of my ability, as far away as possible.
AND, I've never owned a brand new rifle before. I've always had hand me downs, or second hand huntin' guns. Now I get to start fresh! And I want to do it "right".
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Quintin Likely
March 12, 2003, 09:38 PM
Depends. Some scopes may need a tapered base for an extra 20 MOA of adjustment to go the distance. If you're one of those that drags the rifle around in the bush, smacks it against trees and rocks, use it to smash game in the head at close range, yeah, you might need a set of those high dollar bases and rings.
Me personally, I plan on getting a set of Badger rings and bases for my 700VS...the quality is outstanding and its a bomb proof mounting system. Yeah, its overkill for what I'll be doing. On that 300 mag, you may want to consider investing in a good set of bases and rings, for accurate shooting, you'll want as stable a mounting platform as you can get, especially with the recoil of a mag. Although since you've already got them, there's nothing wrong with experimenting with the standard Leupold mounts and rings to see what you get...I also use those on several rifles I own, and they've been excellent.
Skullboy
March 12, 2003, 09:44 PM
If you have the Leupold mounts with the windage adjustment on the rear of the base, I would upgrade to a more sturdier set-up(especially since you are shooting a .300WinMag).All the bases and rings you mentioned are excellent.I personally use a Leupold Mark IV one piece base with Badger Ordnance Max-50 rings on my AI 700 in .308Win.The mounts are one of the most important, and often overlooked components on a rifle.I always tell people to but the best mounts their budget allows.The one modifaction you might want to think about is having the mounting holes on your reciever drilled out and tapped for the larger 8 X 40 base screws.This modifaction, along with proper mounts will give you a set-up that is solid, strong, and ready for rough field use.
HTH. SKBY.
Buckskinner
March 12, 2003, 09:44 PM
Well, I usually am kinda harsh with my weapons. I have fallen on them, dropped them from trees, slid down canyons with them, etc. I think for peace of mind, I'll pay the money.
Any preference? I am looking closer at the Farrell rings. Those Ross things are kind of Frankenstein-ish...
Buckskinner
March 12, 2003, 09:47 PM
Seems like folks are recommending epoxying the base to the receiver. Any experience with that?
warrior23
March 12, 2003, 09:56 PM
Go with the Badger bases and rings,and dont look back they are plenty heavy duty.Check out Premire recticals they have good prices on Badger equip and scopes also.
warrior23
March 12, 2003, 10:01 PM
Sorry try this link www.PremierReticles.com
Skullboy
March 13, 2003, 12:07 AM
Buckskinner, when I mount my bases, I clean the mating surfaces with Acetone to remove all traces of oil or grease.I then apply a VERY thin coating of blue Loctite to the top of the reciever and then put the base in place.I use a dab of the blue Loctite on the base screws, hand tightening them until they are snug.I then tighten them a half turn each, alternating front to back until hand tight.I then torque them down to 20 to 25 inch pounds, tap the tops of the screws to make sure they are seated and re-torque them.I will check all fasteners on my mounts after 5 to 10 rounds to make sure they are still tight.
The distances you are going to shoot will depend on whether you will want a tapered base or not.The scope you have now will probably hit out to 600 or 700 yards.If you are planning to shoot out to 1000 yards, then you would probably need a tapered base.Some manufacturers make different tapers.20 MOA seems to be the standard, but there is a fellow up here in Canada who make custom tapers from 10 MOA up to 75 MOA.
You can check them out at:http://www.nearmfg.com./products.htm
What diameter is your scope tube? Badger doesn't make 1" rings, but they have steel reducing inserts so you can use their 30mm rings on a 1" tube.I personally don't like inserts, but if you are thinking about upgrading to a 30mm tube scope down the road, you don't have to buy new rings. A good 1" set of rings to look at would be the Leupold Mark IV rings.The difference between the Badger Ordnance rings and the others, is that the Badger rings are Machined as a pair and are numbered as a pair, so you don't need to lap them.Most of the other rings are machined one at a time and then packaged as a pair.
Hope all this info helps.:)
SKBY.
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