Do you ever have gun nightmares?


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Edmond
April 1, 2005, 05:10 PM
I seem to have gun related nightmares all the time.

It usually goes where my safety is in danger and for one reason or another, the gun either fails to fire or I miss terribly.

Just had one last night where two guys were confronting me. One had a pistol while the other just had a magazine from a pistol in his hand. I ended up trying to double tap the guy with the pistol magazine instead of the guy with the actual gun. But the gun would only fire once and it took a long time to cycle. :eek:

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dasmi
April 1, 2005, 05:12 PM
I had a dream like that a few nights ago. I was driving along in my truck, and suddenly I was out side my truck, facing a guy who was firing an AK at me. I pulled a 1911 ( I don't own one) fired, and it failed to extract. I dropped it, pulled a revolver (but not the one I actually own) fired a few times, then woke up.

Technosavant
April 1, 2005, 05:12 PM
The only times I would have dreams where firearms were hazardous to me were a few years ago, I would dream that I would have a pistol pointed at a legitimate threat, and I would be trying to fire. Problem was, the trigger had a super heavy pull- something like 25 lbs or worse. I couldn't deliver accurate fire.

However, that dream disappeared after I really began shooting as a hobby. Funny; since then I haven't had any dreams where my safety was in danger.

Chupacabra
April 1, 2005, 06:14 PM
I've had a couple over the years and they are never pleasant. A few different things have happened.

1. My gun fails to fire. I pull the trigger and nothing happens.

2. I forget to turn the safety off. Fortunetly the one dream where this happened I realized my mistake, calmly disengaged the safety, and fired.

3. I unload my entire magazine into the bad guy and he drops. I think the fight is over, but to my absolute horror the bad guy gets up and "comes back to life."

:uhoh:

A good reminder to practice drawing and quick reloads. :cool:

swjr72
April 1, 2005, 06:23 PM
Mine is the where the trigger is so heavy it takes forever to pull real bad feeling

one45auto
April 1, 2005, 07:38 PM
I sometimes have recurring dreams in which I attempt to return fire against an attacker only to have a long delay between the trigger pull and the shot. I wind up holding the gun on target waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.....all the while hoping I can hold the sight picture. :uhoh:

Bobarino
April 1, 2005, 07:44 PM
mine are similar to others'. pull the trigger as hard as i can but it won't fire, the bullets are inneffective or the safety is broken and won't disengage. usually i'm pulling the trigger as hard as i can, but it just won't release the sear even though the trigger is against the back of the gaurd. hhhmmmm, lets analyze that. I'M NUTS!! http://forums.sportbikes.net/forums/images/smilies/nuts.gif

Bobby

38SnubFan
April 1, 2005, 09:43 PM
The only gun nightmare I remember clearly was when someone close to me, who I trusted to NEVER harm me, got into a rage and threatened my life.

I yelled like I never yelled before for them to stop and drop the knife.

I drew down and put the front sight on their center of mass.

I yelled as hard as I could again, my eyes tearing up and making the "target" appear fuzzy.

They kept charging me, like the words never came out of my mouth; like the person I was about to kill turned into some raging, rabid, wild animal.

I pulled the trigger. My ears started to ring. I continued to fire until that person completely dropped to the ground.

That person lie on the ground, onconscious and surrounded by blood puddles and splatter.

I checked for a pulse. None.

I woke up, screaming, crying, unable to breath (like I was choking). I ran to the bathroom and threw up until my throat was raw. It took me about 2 or 3 hours before I could fall back asleep.

Only dream I had since was an armed madman running out of the courthouse waving a gun at everyone around. In that dream, I didn't hesitate whatsoever to draw. The first 3 shots missed as I was closing in on the target, the fourth hit him in the shoulder, the fifth in center of mass, and the sixth in his head. Waking up from that one, I actually felt convinced that should my life or the life of another be in immeidate jeopardy, I'd do the right thing, right there, and not second-guess myself.

-38SnubFan

P5 Guy
April 1, 2005, 09:46 PM
A couple of weeks ago I was testing a revolver by shooting it in my mouth and after chewing the bullets a bit I spit them out. :what:
Strange dream very strange dream.

armoredman
April 1, 2005, 09:55 PM
I get the "BB gun effect" - no sound, no recoil, no effect.... :what:

Black_Talon
April 1, 2005, 10:03 PM
None here. Probably comes from having very reliable gats! :)

(My wife has them though. I guess that subconsciously she doesn't trust my abilities as much as I do) :(

johnster999
April 1, 2005, 10:11 PM
I have the heavy trigger pull dream occasionally too. Sometimes pull the trigger all the way back (DA revolver) but the hammer won't fall. Or I shoot right at the threat pointblank and the bullets somehow miss.

Pop psychology might say these dreams are cause by feelings of helplessness due to circumstances in life beyond one's control. I disagree. It's merely a sign of needing more guns and range time.

At least that's what I tell the wife. "It's therapy, Dear, for my bad dreams". :)

999

GaryP
April 1, 2005, 10:24 PM
No, It's the "BOOGEY MAN" or "RAW MEAT & BLOODY BONES" armed with a sword that show up in my nightmares requiring me to dispatch them with a Glock 37 .45GAP!

I do not own a Glock! :D



:evil:

Mumbles_45
April 1, 2005, 11:37 PM
The strangest one I ever had was probably about 6 months ago I dreamed I pried open 2 shotgun shells and poured out the bbs and then stuffed a hamster in each shell and loaded them into a sawed of shotgun kind of like mad max's. I went outside and a dog started running towards me so I gave him both barrels and he and the hamsters all splattered

Sir Aardvark
April 1, 2005, 11:50 PM
I have nightmares that I come home and find that all my guns are gone - it's really sad!

RevDisk
April 2, 2005, 12:02 AM
I have a very similiar dream every once in a while. I'm sitting down at my desk working on whatever, someone calls my name, I turn around, and a very attractive lady repeatedly shoots me in the upper torso with a handgun. Not sure the model, I remember it being a black modern looking polymer type. Then I wake up. It's rather disconcerting because I remember her face and I KNOW I've never seen her before.

I still haven't figured out what I will do if I ever do encounter the lady. Probably do the manly thing and run screaming. :evil:

Fairlane63
April 2, 2005, 12:42 AM
I had one recently-- a little different theme than the others in this thread, but a pretty bad dream nonetheless:

I'm at the outdoor range that I frequent-- I pick my Swiss K-31 up off of the bench and take a shot at the berm 100+ yards away. The thing is, the range is "cold" and there is another shooter down range checking his target! My shot isn't near the other shooter, but I fearfully realize what I've done and feel like a total brain-dead loser moron. Plus, all the other shooters immediately look at me with a very stern "are you some sort of idiot?!" type stare. Total humiliation.

This one woke me up with a very strange feeling early in the a.m.-- maybe it means I'm really paranoid about range safety.

-Chris W.

Stevie-Ray
April 2, 2005, 12:44 AM
Mine are usually the empty the magazine into the BG to no effect type. Sometimes the gun appears to be on safe, though I know it's not. Only once have I had a dream where everything worked as advertized and the BG died. The sense of foreboding was overwhelming and woke me up shaking in a cold sweat. Probably something like it would be in real life.

geekWithA.45
April 2, 2005, 12:52 AM
The gun related nightmare I have is that I chamber check and holster a reasonable sidearm, like a 1911 or a sig, or one of those star wars blasters.

When the nazis/zombies/aliens/whatever show up, it's magically transformed itself into a Raven Arms .25 :what: :what: :what:

gotbass
April 2, 2005, 12:56 AM
I have several variations on the same theme. BG outside, I'm checking the guns, several but nuthing I own, also ammo, but not for the guns. Big frustration. I also dream about trap shooting at the highschool football field and top it off with the going to the door to lock it and it will not lock and finally the BG kicks it in. Yelling no sound.

Note to self, buy more guns and ammo. :eek:

Third_Rail
April 2, 2005, 01:09 AM
Mumbles_45... that's.... uh.... Wow. :uhoh:


Funny, though! :D

itgoesboom
April 2, 2005, 01:24 AM
I had one where I had to shoot a BG, and he started to laugh at me when I shot 3 full magazines from my .380 at him.

I bought a 9mm shortly thereafter.

I.G.B.

No_Brakes23
April 2, 2005, 03:21 AM
Normally I feel that Pop psychology is retarded, and I think the smartest thing Freud ever said was "Sometimes a banana is just a banana."

But I too have the ineffective handgun dream. I have had it since before I ever owned a firearm, but it got a LOT worse after getting married, getting two kids and finding myself up to my ears in debt and stationed in a town with 33% unemployment, (Yuma.) I think the shrinks have something on this one.

If not helplessness, perhaps anxiety. I refuse to believe that everyone in this thread has a perfect stress-free life. And the similarity of the dreams is too much to be a coincident.

The only dream worse for me is TEoTWaWKi dreams involving separation from the wife and kids. Reading SHTFic and ZedLit doesn't help that any, though.

peacefuljeffrey
April 2, 2005, 03:47 AM
WOW, this kind of thing appears to be common! I had no idea!

I've had MANY such gun-nightmares over the last dozen years or so.

In many of them, there is some sort of mechanical or logistical problem with a gun that I need desperately to use in a life-death situation against bad guys.

Most time, it's about a really hard-to-pull trigger, and when I finally get it squeezed, it's either mis-aimed, or the bullet droops out like a BB out of my old spring-loaded Marksman Repeater. :uhoh: I've had lots of dreams where the bullet hits the BG with no more force than a slingshot pellet would. Sucks!

I've also had magazines that were the wrong size for the gun, or a weird scattered assortment of ammunition all in the wrong calibers, and no way to load my gun.

Some of the worst dreams mimick real-life fears of ending up in a place where I'll get it major trouble for having brought a gun there. In real life, I studied for one semester in England in '92. Now I have dreams where I go back there, and as I'm walking out of the airport or something after landing, I realize that somehow I've managed to bring a handgun all that way, sidestepping security (without even meaning to!). Then I think to myself, "Oh, crap, now I have this gun which is registered in NY, so how am I going to get it back over there? And if I can't, and have to abandon it here in England, how am I going to explain the loss of it?" Very stressful dreams. Sometimes in the dream I come up with the idea that I'll just mail the parts back to myself in America. Not sure if that'd end up getting me in trouble anyway. Do they x-ray the mail? :uhoh:

-Jeffrey

peacefuljeffrey
April 2, 2005, 04:09 AM
OMG.

I saw a reference to "TEoTWaWKi" and went hunting higher up the thread for a first reference. Didn't find one, so I went back to it, stared at it, and tried to imagine the cadence of nine words said in a string.

And a few moments later, I got it!! :D

Anyone else have a moment of confusion and then get it?

-Jeffrey

Zach S
April 2, 2005, 06:57 AM
Not really. I had a really weird dream involving zombies one day. I fell asleep watching Resident Evil after spending a day at the range, so of course zombies and guns were involved. I cant remember much about it though.

Bear Gulch
April 2, 2005, 09:30 AM
Yeah, that Hillary gets elected in 2008!

Redneck Revolver
April 2, 2005, 10:41 AM
^ ahahahahahaha :D

anyways my gun nightmares alwasy involve the police takining them from me. a few times ive died because i refused to drop my nagant (let it touch the dirty ground? NEVER!) :what:

Brett Bellmore
April 2, 2005, 11:10 AM
No, I have "It's the end of the semester, and I suddenly realize I forgot to attend one of my classes all semester, and now I'm going to flunk!" nightmares.

I haven't been in college in 20 years, you'd think I'd stop having these flashbacks...

homeka45
April 2, 2005, 03:05 PM
Never, closest was the waking nightmare of Kerry/Heinz becoming president.

iapetus
April 2, 2005, 03:53 PM
I've had a few dreams where I was shooting / carrying a gun, and break all the safety rules and almost (or actually) shoot someone I shouldn't.

Malamute
April 2, 2005, 04:43 PM
The "ineffective shots" thing comes up now and then, often followed by the "no more ammo" scenario.

Having hunted with different pistols, and seen the difference in effect of different loads may ahve some bearing on my dreams like this. I prefer 44 spls, 44 mags, and 45 Colt pistols. I'm personally NOT impressed with the 45 auto w/ 230 gr ball ammo. It could easily be a star in a "ineffective shots/hits" dream for me. Sorry if that is at odds with popular impressions of the 45 auto, it's just my experience from hunting small game up to coyote size with one. Maybe small game is harder to stop than an average BG?

No_Brakes23
April 2, 2005, 07:43 PM
peacefuljeffrey said...
...I realize that somehow I've managed to bring a handgun all that way, sidestepping security (without even meaning to!). I have this one two, except usually it is that I have somehow aquired something class III, usually a suppressed FA MP5. Talk about mixed emotions.

peacefuljeffrey said...
...And a few moments later, I got it!! and BTW, SHTFic = Sh1t Hits The Fan Fiction, and ZedLit = Zombie Apocalypse Literature. I am totally addicted to Post Apocalyptic fiction.

Glock19Fan
April 2, 2005, 11:11 PM
Every once in a while. They are pretty similar to others.

1. The guns reliability. Although my Glock 19 (which is always the gun in my dreams) has been 100 percent reliable, it always jams in my dreams.

2. No ammo left. The gun holds 15 rounds, which is more than enough rounds IMO, but for some reason, in my dreams I only have 6. The slide never locks back and the only way I find out that I am out of ammo is when I pull the trigger (double action) enough times to realize im out.

3. Multiple attackers. There always seem to be more than one or two attackers. The dream never seems to end, and everywhere I go there is someone trying to harm me or my family. I usually cant tell who is bad or not either.

4. BB gun effect. Although I havent had these dreams for a while, I have had dreams where my bullets trajectory was like spitballs, hitting the ground before my target only 30 feet away.

5. Defective ammo. This always seems to happen right when I have a small amount of rounds left, and when I am up close and personal. Right when I get up on the bad guy, I pull the trigger, hear the firing pin hit, but no reaction. I remember a recent dream where I fired the gun at the back of the BGs head at point blank range. It fired, but had no effect on him. The gun jammed too. Like mentioned before, sometimes the bullets take a long time to exit the barrel, so after I pull the trigger, I try to keep the gun on target while waiting for the bullet to exit, not knowing exactly when it will.

6. No effect on the BG. This is pretty common for these dreams. I dump my whole magazine in the attacker with no effect.

Its weird though, since I actually like these dreams. Im scared in the dreams, and im shaken up after waking, but it reminds me to check my weapons to make sure of reliabilty, and it also makes me aware of senarios (though not always real) that I could possibly avoid in real life.

bamawrx
April 2, 2005, 11:14 PM
While sharing a hotel room with a friend during a gun class I heard the following "hey do you want to shoot my .45?". To this day I remind him of the silly thing he said in his sleep. Funny thing is now everyone in the group will sometimes say the same thing out of no where. Thats the fun part of a close group of guys.

Kamicosmos
April 3, 2005, 12:53 AM
I often have dreams where I get in a fight and my punches are very weak, or my gunshots, while accurate, cause no damage, no blood, nothing. I unload mag after mag at my assailiant(s) to no avail. And, being dreams, I either wake up at that point, or something stupid happens, like I finally defeat them with a purple umbrella, or a jelly donut or some other such Freudian thing... :rolleyes:

feelings of helplessness due to circumstances in life beyond one's control.

I usually have these Ineffective Fight dreams during times of stress, so I think you're on to something there.

(Sometimes though, I have very cool Hong Kong Action Movie style dreams. Those are very fun to experience!)

SDGlock23
April 3, 2005, 01:07 AM
I have a few from time to time. Usually it's always:

1) Ultra heavy trigger pull, like 100 lbs or so then...

2) either the BB gun effect, which in essence is pretty much no effect and/or

3) the person gets back up seemingly unharmed.

Really it's just frustrating more or less.

Hot brass
April 3, 2005, 01:21 AM
Had a bad dream where a bg tried to shoot me and I tried to defend myself with a Dan Wesson .357. After shooting the DW, I pistol whipped the bg, the bbl sleeve came off and the bbl broke.

Thats when I woke up.

donkee
April 3, 2005, 01:28 AM
No.............

jlwatts3
April 3, 2005, 03:29 AM
.38snubfan, I had a dream almost exactly like the one you described. My sister, who I love very much, was attacking me with a knife. I kept yelling for her to stop and she wouldn't finally I had to shoot. I woke up sweating and crying my eyes out. Probably one of the worst dreams I have ever had.

jeff-10
April 3, 2005, 08:41 AM
No, I have "It's the end of the semester, and I suddenly realize I forgot to attend one of my classes all semester, and now I'm going to flunk!" nightmares.

I have college nightmares also and I finished a few years ago. I guess being a college student traumatizes you for life. My firearms related nightmares always revolve around me not being able to get to my gun in time, not being able to load it in time or hesitating to pull the trigger. Funny thing is it always seems to revolve around just one of my pistols, like the rest don't exist in my dreamland.

GRB
April 3, 2005, 11:05 AM
Well at the risk of being called a nut, or at the risk of being called as useless as Ziggy Freud, I think dreams like these, especially those that are recurrent, are very often tied into feelings of helplessness. The recurrent dreams of this nature reflect feelings that are not usually conscious feelings but, they are more likely feelings that you have repressed over the years and, they are probably due to some form of traumatic event that badly affected you.

To have dreams about firearms failures, or your failure to be able to use one, when you are in some way being attacked are classical signs of post traumatic stress after events like a shooting in which you were involved. This is a normal part of a person's psychological reaction to having done something: 1) that they knew at some level was wrong (and any moral person would at some level feel even a justified shooting was wrong - maybe not consciously but harming other people is not usually what moral people do in their lives) 2) or done something in a situation in which they felt, even for a moment, helpless 3) or they were in a situation, had things gone otherwise they would have been helpless (such as your gun had malfunctioned in a real scenario and bad guys got the better of you 4) etc...

The thing is, the traumatic event did not have to be related to shooting at all, although it is often related to a real life shooting. The traumatic event could have been something in your childhood, it could have been 9/11, it could have been anything that traumatized you. You do not necessarily realize you have been traumatized if only because life goes on, you live with the event, it gets pushed out of your conscious mind, and then your subconscious lives the guilt trip and expresses itself in these dreams. Be careful because your reactions to such traumas are often expressed in other ways, some could be: shorter temper, looking for more such events (like getting a job as an LEO, a nurse in an ER, a volunteer fireman or paramedic and so on.

Why do you dream of guns even if the traumatic event did not involve you directly, or involve guns in the first place. because they are part of your life now and because they are in your mind an effective way to deal with such events - thing is though your mind does not allow you to deal with them so the guns jam, or bullets fall out of the barrel and so on. Once you cope with whatever is bothering you the dreams either stop or, become much less frequent. When less frequent they usually also become easy to deal with because they often change into you being the winner.

I experienced this for about 6 months after I shot a guy who tried to mug me. It was pretty scary stuff and had waking up in cold sweats, running in my bed to where my legs were all tangled in the sheets, hitting out to where I hit my wife (really it was not intended) or screaming till I woke up. After a few weeks of therapy, the dreams started to subside. I cannot recall the last one I had, but I will admit I had GUN dreams for several years after the shooting - but after the therapy the dreams were not nightmares, or I could control them, or I would wake up before they got bad, or they wound up with me being the winner.

Maybe there are other reasons to have recurrent nightmares about guns, but post traumatic stress is one of them.

Now bear in mind I don't base this just on my one experience; heck I also am studying for my Master's degree in Forensic Psychology. I took a lot of course work geared toward helping victims of trauma, I figured it is about time someone help the victims (including they who may not realize they are a victim such as the cop who shoots a bad guy then suffers for it) instead of the flippin criminals. While I think a lot of psychology is full of bunk, this PTSD thing is for real. So when I retire I may hang a shingle, no bullet holes please.
All the best,
Glenn B

No_Brakes23
April 3, 2005, 12:39 PM
+1 on Glenn Bartley's comments.

Edmond
April 3, 2005, 01:13 PM
The thing is, the traumatic event did not have to be related to shooting at all, although it is often related to a real life shooting. The traumatic event could have been something in your childhood, it could have been 9/11, it could have been anything that traumatized you. You do not necessarily realize you have been traumatized if only because life goes on, you live with the event, it gets pushed out of your conscious mind, and then your subconscious lives the guilt trip and expresses itself in these dreams. Be careful because your reactions to such traumas are often expressed in other ways, some could be: shorter temper, looking for more such events (like getting a job as an LEO, a nurse in an ER, a volunteer fireman or paramedic and so on.

Glenn,

That is deep!

308win
April 3, 2005, 02:47 PM
I have a recurring dream where no matter how hard I squeeze the trigger the gun won't fire. I have the same recurring dream with other situations - running as hard as I can and not moving; pressing the accelerator and not moving, you get the picture.

win71
April 3, 2005, 06:01 PM
I dream I come home and my gun safe has been pried open, and its empty. Had that one several times.
And for Mumbles 45, that's not a night mare, we used to do it all the time in high school!! Works on cats too!

bean357
April 3, 2005, 06:09 PM
Yeah, what Sir Aardvark and win71 said (but only about the safe being pried open on that one! no hamsters) :uhoh:

Most always has to do with them getting stolen....once the house burned. Awful....totally awful nightmares

S3Project
April 3, 2005, 06:18 PM
You guys oughta learn to lucid dream...:)

http://brain.web-us.com/lucid/luciddreamingFAQ.htm#What%20is%20Lucid%20Dreaming

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreams

TheOtherOne
April 3, 2005, 06:21 PM
I have the heavy/impossible trigger pull one quite often. I remember one where I ended up trying to squeeze the trigger with two fingers from each hand and I just couldn't get it back all the way.

I've also had dreams where I needed to rack the slide and I just didn't have enough strength to do it.


Some of the worst dreams mimick real-life fears of ending up in a place where I'll get it major trouble for having brought a gun there.I've had one a few times where I was in line for airport security and suddenly realized I had my gun on me. For some reason I couldn't get back out of line and it was inevitable that I would be walking through the metal detectors with the gun.

sixguns
April 3, 2005, 09:51 PM
My therapist says I am getting better...

KadicDeshi
April 3, 2005, 11:24 PM
I've had just two dreams about guns, both within the year since I got my chl. The first was that I was walking out from the local pool hall where a couple of college friends (one of whom I went to my chl class with) and I play a lot. In the parking lot I am acosted by three fairly muscular BGs, all with guns. I drew my then carry piece, a CZ 40B, and mercilessly shoot each one twice in the chest. In real life, I'd have been in bigtime trouble with the amount of time I took to acquire and fire on each BG. Not to mention, I'm so cold about it. I doubt I could ever be that calm. Funny enough, I had absolutely no problem going right back to sleep and didn't think anything about it until the next morning.

The second was when I was staying the night at my parents' place. I was sleeping on a matress in the living room and actually dreamed I got up to use the bathroom. I saw headlights coming directly for the picture window in our kitchen. They were like only 5 feet from the window and they were moving quick. I dove back toward the living room where my 1911 was and yelled for my dad to wake up. That was what woke me actually, because I yelled for real. My dad came running into the living room asking me what was wrong. :o That one really freaked me out. I didn't sleep well for the rest of the night.

Those are the only two I've had thus far. I have no doubt there'll be more eventually.

Barrett

dman4384
April 4, 2005, 02:19 AM
I have two reoccuring gun dreams.

The first is where I fire the gun at the bad guy and the gun either doesnt fire or
the bullet just kind of falls out.

The other, which is much more common for me, is to find myself in a situation where Im not supposed to be armed.

I'll dream that Im in school and I get "made" carrying..or I do something stupid like leave my gun out on my desk and someone walks by and sees it. (and I've not been in school for many many years)

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