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Does a reciprocity law to recognize ccw's from other states recognized by all other states; violate state sovereignty?

[Gray Peterson]

I have so many people, so many IDIOTS, keep saying that making CCW's reciprocal is unconstitutional violation of state power.

They keep making the following mischaracterizations:

A) That it creates a federal CCW permit. FALSE, It creates the same situation as driver licenses being valid in other states incident to the right of travel.

B) That it's a violation of the 10th Amendment. FALSE. This is a power specifically given to the US Government in the constitution, the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

C) That it's an overstepping of bounds of the commerce clause. FALSE. Full faith and credit clause also applies.

[Porter Rockwell]

Hello, I believe the War of Northern Agression pretty much decided states rights were usurped by the Feds.

[LoneStranger]

Porter Glockwell,
The States Right they are talking about is when the state you are in issues a valid marriage license so that your 15 year old brother can legally marry your 13 year old sister and the other states recognize it as a legal marriage.

As with most so-called States Rights you need to look at who is saying what about when and where. Most require some detailed explanation and really don't lend themselves to short Hollyweird soundbyte explanation.

In this case, CCW, they are trying to force the various states to follow that "Full Faith" clause in the Constitution.

[Minute_Of_Torso]

Porter Rockwell:

Finally! Somebody else who calls it the War of Northern Aggression! :D

BTW, that's the way it was taught to me in high school so if the title War of Northern Aggression is non-PC . . . blame it on federal education! :neener:

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I always thought, marriage licenses, driver's licenses etc... were just fine, and that ccw "should" work the same way..

[Bainx]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, "if you get the Fed. Govt. involved in ANYTHING, it will be FUBAR; just like the arming of the commercial pilots fiasco".

"Get government out of my life"--T. Jefferson
"Government is not the solution, its the problem"- R. Reagan
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[mjustice]

I am tired of hearing the "It worked for driver's licenses, it can work for CCW" - argument because I believe it is wrong.

Traditional Driver's Licenses between the states are recognized because of the Driver's License Compact, an agreement between the states. The only license that has federally-mandated recognition is a Commercial Driver's License, which some can argue is a lawful regulation of interstate commerce.

What this movement needs is a "compact" of its own. Administrators from the State Police or Department of State need to get togther in a room and create a "universal" agreement and then ask the states to sign on. Sure, they'll be holdouts like New York and California, but the rest of the nation should be able to get their butts in gear and sign on eventually.

I read once on Packing.Org that there was a gentleman named Russ Hamilton from the Arizona DPS who was trying to start this. Does anyone know what happened?

MJ

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mjustice, isn't that what I'm talking about? I don't care too much who needs to get in the room, but whoever got in the room and worked out everything for the driver's license, send them a box of Crispy Creams, stuff them in a room, and have them draft the same thing for ccw's!

[mjustice]

The point is that the federal government has almost nothing (if anything) to do with the DLC. A carry license compact would work the same way.

The reason it won't work is for the same problem we have now - too many arguments against it (on both side). The older I get, the more I belive that the right to carry a weapon should have never been licensed in the first place. Why add more paper to legitamize a lawful act that should require no paperwork?

MJ

[Boats]

War of Northern Aggression? C'mon! Losers don't get to write the history. By chance you two don't happen to edit 20th century Japanese history books do you?:rolleyes:

[publius]

What would become of Vermont, the last remaining state where you can just carry without any nanny state permission slip?