Travel Channel, Shooting at Bigfoot in OK?


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Double Naught Spy
April 2, 2005, 10:05 PM
So there is a show on the Travel Channel right now called Weird Travels. The video team is outside of Adair Oklahoma, looking for Bigfoot. They did video with night vision. Strangely, everyone in the team can see a large animal between two trees, up on a ridge at some distance, that later throws a rock at them, and then moves off. Before doing so, the one team member, Dan Belda, who was armod draws his pistol (looked like a Glock in the night vision) and the woman member (Cindy Bear) helps him point it in the correct direction so that he can spot the animal as well. The supposed animal moves off and the team discussed what they thought they saw. They then show the spot where the animal previously was and point out a large gap in the trees (plainly visible) where the animal was, only they were unable to see that spot with the night vision when the animal was there. Amazing.

Then they cut to the guy with the pistol, shooting into the darkness with no light and no night vision. Apparently the gun malfunctions and he has to handle cycle it for the second shot. What a bunch of morons...me included for watching the show. It was amazing, shooting a gun in the dark with no illumination at an unknown target, unknown backstop, etc.

I do enjoy watching these shows. I am continually amazed at how when the animal is spotted, if there are images, the animal is so distant that you can't tell if it is a person, bear, Bigfoot, or a space alien.

In a later segment, they are with some Native Americans and there is one in a red shirt. Everyone else is in camo and has binoculars or cameras, but this guy is just in a red shirt. Then he asked the camera man if he smells something, over and over, then announces it is 'stink.' The implication is that he smells the Bigfoot. Next, the Native American in the red shirt with no binoculars spots something moving way off in the distance. It is so far away, the camera can't even zoom in close enough to see it. On the stills taken, it is just a black dot, supposedly of an animal walking upright. So just how is it that some Native American in a red shirt can smell a bigfoot at super long range, so far that the camera can't even see it and how is it that this guy manages this and then spots the animal when nobody else with binoculuars could? I swear, it is almost like watching Blair Witch Project!

So, if you live in Bigfoot country and some hokey video crew comes to hunt for Bigfoot, be wary, they come armed and stupid, at least this one did.

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BlkHawk73
April 3, 2005, 09:37 AM
Saw that same show a while back. Good thing they were 100% sure of what they wee shooting at blindly. :neener: :banghead: i'll watch these shows too just cause there so little else on TV now-a-days. Besides it's usually pretty comical. Besides, if such an animal were to exist and it's kept hiden this well for this long, do these self-proclimed experts really think they'll be the heros of the discovery?

gm
April 3, 2005, 10:02 AM
apparantly, this bigfoot has a very bad case of body oder from what Ive heard. "bigfoots" or whatever they are called by the locals seem to pop up in many places, including here in ohio. In some places they are called "skunk ape" because of the awful smell associated with them-there is even a website for sightings. I find it odd that nobody has actually captured or shot one, no carcass, nothing since the whole legend started way back when as proof.

it is totally foolish and asking for trouble to shoot at something in the dark that is unidentifiable.I wonder what would have happened if the crew went out the next day in daylight and found a shot cameraman or a hiker. people do some really stupid things and this is one.

Lone Star
April 3, 2005, 11:48 AM
Funny: I just posted about Bigfoot on a non-gun forum.

My post was prompted by an Animal Planet show called "Animal X" or some such rot, that followed the ten PM re-run of "Austin Stevens: Snakemaster".

In that one, a team of four Bigfoot hunters are working the Piney Woods on the TX-LA border. Two are the series researchers, who seem to be Australian, maybe British, as is the host. The other two are a local couple.

Much ado, with little to show for it, but at least, they didn't fire at unknown things in the dark! And the brunette babe hostess is hot...

What they did get is a footprint with dermal ridges (similar to fingerprints) that would be exceedingly hard to fake. And a detective saying that this would be enough evidence to convict a criminal in a courtroom.

Lone Star

Double Naught Spy
April 3, 2005, 01:16 PM
I enjoy the bigfoot and related cryptozoology studies, but bigfoot is particularly funny. There are lots of reports of supposed evidence that would be difficult or impossible to fake. Depending on the expert, film footage of bigfoots is often irrefuteable proof or an obvious hoax, and they are referring to the same footage.

I had not seen the episode where dermal ridges were obtained. The obtained dermal ridge prints out of the dirt or what?

FYI, I have the cast of a female bigfoot, cast and signed by the father of bigfoot studies in the US, Grover Krantz of WSU, Pullman, WA. He passed away a few years ago, but sold off much of his collection before he did. I purchased on footprint. Aside from the topic, he suffered harsh words for suggesting that the one and only way to resolve the issue of whether or not bigfoot was a real animal was for somebody to shoot one and bring it in for study.

Here is his bio ... http://www.bfro.net/news/krantz.asp

bbrown609
April 3, 2005, 01:16 PM
Remember the movie The Legend of Boggy Creek from back in the seventies? It was supposed to be based on a true story of a bigfoot in Arkansas. Loved the movie as a kid. Bigfoot stories have been around forever. We even had a lizard man in SC.

yorec
April 3, 2005, 01:32 PM
Taking potshots in the dark... Hmm, well my canned bigfoot hunt with guaranteed sighting price just went up a couple grand. Gotta pay for a new vest...

Blueduck
April 3, 2005, 02:36 PM
Apparently the gun malfunctions and he has to handle cycle it for the second shot.

Hmm... something blanks are notorious for :rolleyes:

1911Tuner
April 3, 2005, 04:13 PM
Well, Assuming that these critters exist...and I'd guess that there's a good chance that SOMEthing has kept the legend going with the Indians for
about 500 years...and assuming that one of these dimwits actually get a shot at one and manages to kill it...they may be in for some serious trouble. Since
they have yet to be identified and/or classified...that would automatically put'em on the endangered species list...AND...if examination revealed that they're more human than ape, they could feasibly be charged with murder.

Another thing to think about is that, if they spot a man with their night-vision gear, and cut down on him in the dark...and this man happens to be armed...they may find themselves on the receiving end of his return fire.

Some things are best left alone...

HankB
April 3, 2005, 05:31 PM
Open fire on what you think is a "Bigfoot" at night, and if you DO hit him, you're likely to find you've killed some stupid joker in a gorilla suit.

And the DA isn't going to cut you any slack just because you tell him you thought it was Sasquatch.

spartacus2002
April 3, 2005, 06:33 PM
And the DA isn't going to cut you any slack just because you tell him you thought it was Sasquatch.

Yep -- no more Chewbacca Defense now that you-know-who has passed on :D

Double Naught Spy
April 3, 2005, 10:47 PM
I saw the Legend of Boggy Creek several times. It scared the hell out of me. Apparently that bigfoot was shot at least once, maybe more.

As for the malfunctioning gun, I would be just as apt to believe that the moron didn't know beans about the gun, didn't maintain it properly, maybe had his finger on the slide when it fired, I don't know.

There are all sorts of long term legends that seem to gain credibility by the fact that they have been around for a long time, such as Bigfoot. In the Amazon, there were legends of a Lost World, an isolated pocket forgotten by time where dinosaurs still roamed. I believe it was a team from the Netherlands that did an expedition in the 70s or 80s. They found nothing. However, part of what made the claims credible were a long lore history by the natives and supposed recent sightings.

You know, given that there are millions of hunters every year going out into the forests in search of game, then I would expect that some would have been killed by the hunters and the interesting animal proudly displayed before cameras/news media. What hunter would not want to have the first trophy mount of an animal not known to actually exist? Talk about bragging rights!

Preacherman
April 4, 2005, 04:34 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if they shot one and found it actually had small feet?

:D

Browns Fan
April 4, 2005, 07:59 AM
Now let's start a thread on what's the best caliber/gun for Bigfoot! :rolleyes:

1911Tuner
April 4, 2005, 09:30 AM
Brown's Fan quipped:

>Now let's start a thread on what's the best caliber/gun for Bigfoot!<
**********************

35 MM Nikon with ZOOOOOOOM! I hear them things are big enough to whup a bear and stink worse'n a polecat. :eek: Keepin' your distance would be a good idea... :D

psyopspec
April 4, 2005, 09:53 AM
It was amazing, shooting a gun in the dark with no illumination at an unknown target, unknown backstop, etc.

Actually that was his last shred of credibility he was plinking with.

Lone Star
April 4, 2005, 11:14 AM
I guess that if I was fishing or camping in Bigfoot country, or trying to find one, I'd pack a six-inch barrelled S&W M629 .44 Magnum. I think any of the better 240-grain JSP or JHP loads would probably suffice.

Aim for the solar plexus or the flat face, hoping to blow his brains out the back of his head. But don't shoot, unless there seems to be a real need.

I saw the Boggy Creek films, and a pal knows the guy who made them. I think the one in the movies was hit only with buckshot at extended range. Not a good combo for penetration.

If I meet one, I guess I'd ask it to have a cup of tea (Twining's Ceylon Breakfast, I think) and what it thought of last night's, "Desperate Housewives". Then, we could discuss whether Marcia Cross or Eva Longoria was the hotter chick. Surely, Bigfoot has a TV...

Just kidding. I take Bigfoot/Sasquatch fairly seriously. Proceed with caution.

Lone Star

rick_reno
April 4, 2005, 11:40 AM
Walks upright, foul odor - I'm sure it's the fellow who shoots to the left of me in our bullseye shoots. His gas emissions make noise than his gun does. I'm sure a native American could smell him from a long distance off. If the gas emissions are any indication he's using black powder as a spice - and he likes his food VERY spicey.

firesafety3
April 4, 2005, 12:38 PM
I saw the same program and was astounded to see this guy firing in the dark. Particularly, if you remember correctly, these were two law enforcement officers that had the initial sighting and brought the camera crew back to the location.

He had pulled his gun to use the laser to point out the specific location of the shadow they had seen. Then he fired off a few rounds. Maybe that's why this animal began throwing rocks. I would have loved for the "Bigfoot" to drop this cowboy with a well placed rock. Battery on a police officer by an unknown and nonexistent assailant.

cookiemonster
April 4, 2005, 12:53 PM
Yep -- no more Chewbacca Defense now that you-know-who has passed on


Spartacus! LMAOROTF


But did he live on Endor? lol

Darrell

Lonestar.45
April 4, 2005, 12:54 PM
I saw it too, and the shooting part was completely idiotic. First off, who in their right and sober mind would shoot into the night towards an unidentified TWO LEGGED upright animal while out in the woods? I can see the headlines now "Bigfoot search party accidentaly shoots game warden" or something. Completely moronic.

Second, who in their right mind would carry a pistol, of ANY caliber, out into the woods to go "bigfoot" hunting? Let's just say you run into one, and it is the size of a grizzly, which supposedly they are. Why would you have a pistol as your main weapon?

I thought the show was interesting until I saw that display, then it was time to turn the channel.

joebogey
April 4, 2005, 03:11 PM
and what it thought of last night's, "Desperate Housewives". Then, we could discuss whether Marcia Cross or Eva Longoria was the hotter chick. Surely, Bigfoot has a TV...

Teri Hatcher....man that gal's a cutie. ;)



And I ain't huntin no Bigfoot with no handgun. Be worse than huntin a mountain lion with a switch!

DontBurnMyFlag
April 4, 2005, 05:05 PM
they are idiots. you dont shoot at bigfoot....you call in airstrikes!!! haha. why would you take a glock to a big game hunting expedition. even if it was for protection against other animals, wouldnt a .44 mag revolver be more reliable in taking down bigger animals. say bigfoot came at them charging and he had 17 rounds of 9mm or .40 sw, you still wouldnt stop something the size of a bear with that. :cuss:

well anyway, it sounds like they were inexperienced and probably just doing it for the ratings. think about it, what gun do they make that jams up and fires blanks. the .45 caliber glock. its not as reliable as a real glock and is used in movies ALOT. he probably had a fake glock, it jammed up and he had to deal with it.

because like i said, i wouldnt go on a big game expedition with anything less than .357 magnum.

mons meg
April 4, 2005, 05:36 PM
In a later segment, they are with some Native Americans and there is one in a red shirt. Everyone else is in camo and has binoculars or cameras, but this guy is just in a red shirt. Then he asked the camera man if he smells something, over and over, then announces it is 'stink.'

Um, most Native Americans here have names like Bill or Jim. Also, (unfortunately) most fullbloods can't speak a lick of their tribal language, either. Heck, I qualify as a 1/32 Choctaw, and I look like my name should be "Gunther".

Daniel T
April 5, 2005, 06:56 PM
If I meet one, I guess I'd ask it to have a cup of tea (Twining's Ceylon Breakfast, I think) and what it thought of last night's, "Desperate Housewives". Then, we could discuss whether Marcia Cross or Eva Longoria was the hotter chick. Surely, Bigfoot has a TV...

I'm pretty sure that even Bigfoot could tell you that Marcia Cross doesn't hold a candle to Eva Longoria. :D

DigMe
April 5, 2005, 11:52 PM
"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here."

- Mitch Hedberg (RIP)

brad cook

chadintex
April 5, 2005, 11:55 PM
People in this part of OK are always seeing bigfoot, they are very proud of it too. There have been sighting claims for years. Of course the meth and booze have nothing to do with it. :D

whelen35
April 6, 2005, 12:25 AM
I live near where this was filmed and know some of the people involved. It was a huge scam. They really got a kick out of making that crap up and getting it put on TV.

psyopspec
April 6, 2005, 12:56 AM
"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here."

LOL, thanks, Brad. The day he died was one of those times I really wish roundtable was still here.

Bullet
April 6, 2005, 12:56 AM
Last summer one night I was sleeping on the back porch. When for some reason I awoke. I smelled something really foul and saw this big shadow (there was a full moon) moving across the back yard probably 50 yards away. I thinking it was Bigfoot grabbed my PPK and started blasting until I heard grandma’s voice telling me to cease-fire. Apparently the beans we had for dinner didn’t agree with grandma and she got up to go to the outhouse. I only managed to get off 4 shots before I realized grandma wasn’t Bigfoot. 3 missed completely and one hit her in her rear doing no damage. Grandma and my wife were really mad and took away the rest of my bullets for a month but grandpa said she deserved it.

Just Joking.

chris in va
April 6, 2005, 02:24 AM
...and then she got run-overed by a reindeer next Christmas. :rolleyes:

Bobarino
April 6, 2005, 03:59 PM
um DUH! they're not going to find Bigfoot there. everybody knows that the Sasquatch lives up here in the Pacific Northwest. he even ate my dad's Cheetoh's. i swear! i heard it around the campfire when we were camping in the woods when i was 6.

Bobby

vwfool
April 8, 2005, 09:20 AM
Well that's it. I guess I am going to have to hook the trailer back up to my Volkswagen Bug and start driving around again with my servo motored, laptop adjustable, tripod mounted 37mm BAC (bigfoot annihilation cannon), just in case I see one...the dumb @$$ :cuss: tv crews, not bigfoot. I'm not too worried about him because all of the good recipies I've found for cooking one are too blurry to read.


http://www.rock103.com/crew/pics/?pow=060903


I didn't see the show,but it wouldn't supprise me if the guys gun jammed be cause he was holding it 6 inches above his head with the sights facing left instead of facing up.

zpo
April 8, 2005, 10:30 AM
Wookies are from Kashyyyk. Ewoks are from Endor. Just to clarify.

DigMe
April 8, 2005, 11:27 AM
Wookies are from Kashyyyk. Ewoks are from Endor. Just to clarify.

In doing so you've also clarified that you are indeed a geek.

:neener:

brad cook

cookiemonster
April 8, 2005, 11:31 AM
So why is Chewbacca on Endor?
It just don't make any sense!
If the Wookie doesn't fit, you must aquit!

I actually had my then-wife convinced that when we went on a roadie up to Oregon that I had some rounds loaded up in my 45-70 specifically for Bigfoot protection and if the chance presented itself, I would take one. She believed me...

Darrell

TechBrute
April 8, 2005, 11:40 AM
DNS, you need to get out of that museum more. There are better things to do than watch retarded shows on TV, and quite frankly, there are better things on TV. Get a Tivo and watch Shooting USA or something.

zpo
April 8, 2005, 05:53 PM
Actually, to be really geeky, Ewoks are from one of Endors small moons. :D

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