Furs with guns...


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Gifted
April 4, 2005, 08:17 AM
How'd I do? I'm world_wanderer BTW.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/openpaws/168047.html

I posted after reading this thread:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167075

I was somewhat surprised at the response. I had thought about it after posting, and knowing what I know about the fandom, I was thinking that furs would be much more open-minded about things.

BTW, if there's a furry gun group, let me know, I'd be interested.

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Indy7373
April 4, 2005, 09:41 AM
Pull some Psychology out on them. What they are displaying is classic Projection. Basically, since they don't trust themselves with guns, they can't trust anyone else with guns. :D

Ain't book learnin fun. :D

armoredman
April 4, 2005, 10:00 AM
"Furry"?

jefnvk
April 4, 2005, 10:05 AM
I personally don't see the point in guns-as-weapons.

He is obviously living in a fantasy world then.

jamz
April 4, 2005, 10:06 AM
At least as a furry, you have a lot of concealment options! ;)


-James

RyanM
April 4, 2005, 10:41 AM
Wish I could post anonymously in response to the paragraphless guy.

Usually my response to those kinds of people is to quote them almost verbatum, substituting "seat belt" for gun.

Like lately I've been complaining back to people that if they're so paranoid about crashing that they have to wear a seat belt, they should take some "martial driving" lessons, and get a car alarm, and start working out, instead. Those'll really keep ya from dying in a crash, yep.

Usually doesn't get through, but they usually do make some really funny facial expressions.

edit: Oh, and that "up close and personal wid da dag" is total BS. Less than three feet, less than three shots, less than three seconds. The difference is that most bleeding from gunshot wounds is internal, while knife wounds have a higher chance of bleeding externally. That, combined with real "contact" distance, greatly increase your chances of exposure to HIV, hepatitis, etc.

walking arsenal
April 4, 2005, 11:22 AM
"Furry"?

Furry is a category of fantasy dedicated to anthropomorphics: fictional animal characters given human personalities and characteristics. I.E. Bugs Bunny and the like.

Furry fans, sometimes referred to as furries or furs for short, are eager for more material than is available from mainstream publishers. The demand is filled by fellow fans – amateur to professional artists, writers, and publishers who produce drawings, paintings, stories, independent comic books, fanzines, Web sites and even small press books.

http://www.jaynaylor.com/

The comic hosted at this website entitled "Better Days" is a good example of furry and is firearms related to boot!! BONUS!!

No_Brakes23
April 4, 2005, 11:28 AM
armoredman said..."Furry"?Hard to really describe a Furry in all honesty while staying on the High Road, so I will do the best I can.

Rather than give my opinion of what I have always seen Furries to be, I give this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry
A much more even-handed definition than what I have seen in my expierence.

So, I will just leave it at that.

<edit> You can get an entirely different view at: http://www.portalofevil.com/search.php

walking arsenal
April 4, 2005, 11:35 AM
Every side has their extremists.

To bad they are the ones who are the loudest and get the most attention.

Andrew Rothman
April 4, 2005, 11:46 AM
As a LJ member (if not a furry) I had to chime in. It beats working. :D

RyanM
April 4, 2005, 12:03 PM
http://www.werewolves.org/%7Etwo/rants.htm

His rant about guns is definitely worth listening to.

No_Brakes23
April 4, 2005, 12:21 PM
You LJ people all part of this community?
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=guns

mfree
April 4, 2005, 12:44 PM
Same user id, too.

armoredman
April 4, 2005, 12:56 PM
Had to get involved, sorry....can't stand idiots unanswered.... :fire:

No_Brakes23
April 4, 2005, 01:24 PM
mfree said...
Same user id, too.1984 with the animation?

Gifted
April 4, 2005, 01:24 PM
All I wanted was some feedback on how I did. :eek: I have more opinions from you guys than from furs! :what: :eek:

walking arsenal
April 4, 2005, 01:45 PM
you did alright.

Typhoon
April 4, 2005, 01:46 PM
Furry, Hmmm?

This is a subculture I have never heard of before. God Bless the Internet. Learn something new every day...

armoredman
April 4, 2005, 10:08 PM
Gifted, you did well,sir.

Kamicosmos
April 4, 2005, 11:14 PM
You LJ people all part of this community?

Ya know, all the years I've been an LJ'er and I never joined the Guns community. I'll try to remember to do that...


I'll dunno what to say on the furries...whatever gets your rocks off I guess. Or maybe 'It takes all kinds?'

Third_Rail
April 4, 2005, 11:32 PM
Hm, I wonder how many here are furs, that's something I didn't quite expect - culture blending gets me every time! :D



Other good comics would be Nip and Tuck (http://nipandtuck.keenspace.com/d/20001002.html) and Under the Lemon Tree (http://utlt.keenspace.com/d/20001002.html).

GunnySkox
April 5, 2005, 12:47 AM
Hi, I'm a Gunfur!

On the comics front, I like Better Days ( http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays ) because I like the way Mr. Naylor thinks (for gun attraction, one of the characters ends up purchasing a revolver and getting training for personal protection!), and Ozy and Millie ( http://www.ozyandmillie.org/ ) just because it's so unfathomably cute.

Speaking of the "fandom" in general, the average furry is just your Joe Average who happens to dig anthropomorphic animals. Unfortunately, we're principally characterized by... those people. The kind of people the media always picks to characterize whatever subculture they're picking on today. You get the fursuiters and the plushophiles and the folks who get the leopard (sp?) spot pattern tattooed over every inch of their bodies, the kind of people who look down their nose at "normal" people and think themselves superior just because of their preference in fantasies. For the same reason sheeple tend to think that all gun-owners are retarded are paranoid, insane hicks with millions of rounds of ammunition in their mattresses and plots to assassinate their politician of choice, sheeple tend to think that all furries wear fursuits in public, have sex with plush toys, and are all socially awkward freaks who can't get "yiffed" without the benefit of others' fetishism.

Man, that's one convoluted paragraph, but I've got neither the time nor the patience to edit it proper-like.

On the political side of things, I've found furries hold the standard array of beliefs. I've chatted with leftist hippies and right-wing tinfoil-hatters, I've talked with gunfurs and people who squerk at mere mention of firearms, people who think War is the root of all evil and people who think War is the cure for any evil, and all that jazz.

Er, yeah, sorry for the incoherent post.

~Slam_Fire
Dangit, Walking Arsenal beat me to the "Better Days" reference.

Sam
April 5, 2005, 01:59 AM
You done OK.
I must live a sheltered life. There are a whole bundle of strange folks over ther.

Sam

Blackburn
April 5, 2005, 02:29 AM
I'm afraid that I've been scarred for life when it comes to furries by the ones who are aroused by images of humanoid skunks with multiple sets of equipment performing sexual acts on humanoid mongooses, also with one or more sets of equipment.

On this one forum, we had this resident commie leftist guy named 'Cigarskunk'. Cigarskunk railed long and hard about how only a tiny minority of furs brought all the negative attention, that most of them aren't sexual, etc. Then someone googled his name and found a video of him and his friends at a "con" which involved an as-god-made-her female human, a plush skunk toy, and a "marital aid", along with several explicit drawings commissioned by him.

He kinda faded away.

I've gotta say though that if anyone who is Pro RKBA, I don't care if they get it on with fido or (of age) people of their own family or using accessories that would never enter my mind. Honestly that's just their own business.

Molon Labe! :)

MikeB
April 5, 2005, 08:48 AM
On this one forum, we had this resident commie leftist guy named 'Cigarskunk'. Cigarskunk railed long and hard about how only a tiny minority of furs brought all the negative attention, that most of them aren't sexual, etc. Then someone googled his name and found a video of him and his friends at a "con" which involved an as-god-made-her female human, a plush skunk toy, and a "marital aid", along with several explicit drawings commissioned by him.

He kinda faded away.


Close Blackburn; but you've got some details mixed up. Cigarskunk is actually a rightwing republican gunowner. He also didn't fade away from that other forum but changed his name.

Mods, I would recommend you carefully watch this thread. On this other forum that Blackburn mentions this subject ended up causing much acrimony and infighting amongst otherwise friendly posters.

The mods and posters there still go into apoplexy whenever the word furry is mentioned.

bogie
April 5, 2005, 09:52 AM
Furry? That's just WEIRD.

Step 1, campers, get an identity. Don't borrow one.

A little while back, was eating dinner in the cafeteria, and one of my cow orkers said that he didn't believe in guns. I replied that I didn't believe in fairies, and I felt that I was FAR more grounded in reality... He didn't see the humor in it.

Third_Rail
April 5, 2005, 01:42 PM
Furry? That's just WEIRD.

Step 1, campers, get an identity. Don't borrow one.

Rather cryptic, what do you mean? :confused:

Werewolf
April 5, 2005, 02:42 PM
53 years old, literally traveled all over the world and I don't have a clue what the hell a "furry" is. :confused:

Could someone please enlighten me - I'm sure I'm not the only one ignorant of furdom around here. :cool:

Third_Rail
April 5, 2005, 02:46 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry


That's a good link on furries.

jamz
April 5, 2005, 03:06 PM
What's the difference between a furry and a plushie?

Also, can one be a furry and a hunter? <- gun related! :)


-James

Blackburn
April 5, 2005, 03:10 PM
Close Blackburn; but you've got some details mixed up. Cigarskunk is actually a rightwing republican gunowner. He also didn't fade away from that other forum but changed his name.

He was proven to be a liar who misled people, I call that a commie.

Third_Rail
April 5, 2005, 03:41 PM
Furry and plushies...


A "furry" is defined simply enough as an anthropomorphic animal or a person who appreciates fictional characters thereof.

A "plushie" is a common term for what toy industry professionals refer to as a "plush toy", or in the common vernacular, a stuffed animal. "Plushie" can also refer to grown individuals that share an uncommon affection for plush toys.



Also, can one be a furry and a hunter? <- gun related!

Yep. I know of three, so far.

No_Brakes23
April 5, 2005, 07:15 PM
He was proven to be a liar who misled people, I call that a commie.

Does that mean that the Israelis who live on communes as an Early Warning System are liars? They are Commies.

GunnySkox
April 5, 2005, 10:19 PM
Furry? That's just WEIRD.


Owning guns? That's just WEIRD.
Enjoying something that the majority of society doesn't? That's just WEIRD.

Of course, I fully respect your right to not like the same stuff I like (as does any proper fan of anything), and I expect getting a certain amount of @#$% from people for liking "WEIRD" things (guns, anthro art/stories, etc.), but still, was throwing pejorative adjectives out there really necessary?


Step 1, campers, get an identity. Don't borrow one.


Buh?


53 years old, literally traveled all over the world and I don't have a clue what the hell a "furry" is.

Could someone please enlighten me - I'm sure I'm not the only one ignorant of furdom around here.

Though I've seen a couple short definitions so far, I thought I'd respond to this, too.

List of terms:
Furry/Fur/Furson/etc. - Someone who likes the idea of anthropomorphic animals (see anthropomorphism below), generally. The term's connotation can also encompass (but technically does not include) fursuiters, plushophiles, zoophiles, etc.

Anthropomorphism - Generally speaking, any giving of human qualities to something that doesn't have them. In this context, it specifically means giving animals human features (speech, general body layout, bipedal motion, [sometimes] plantigrade feet). If it helps, imagine something along the lines of an anime catgirl, only more cat.

Man, that's a bad analogy.

Some examples of "furry" art.
VG CATS
http://www.vgcats.com/
The main characters, Aeris and Leo, are anthropomorphic cats.
Leo as Max Payne: http://www.vgcats.com/art/bangshootwallpaper.jpg

Chalosan's artwork. A request to a friend for some mostly-clean furry-artists gave me this:
http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Chalosan/ (Disclaimer for Art's Grammaw: Bear in mind, however, that this directory does have a "mature" section. Don't go there if you don't want to see what's there. Additionally, the VCL archives do have a lot of explicit art, so your web-blocker at work probably blocks it)

Black-Footed-Ferret-girl, showing bad trigger-discipline: http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Chalosan/Sasha-birthday-2003.jpg


Hope it helps
~Slam_Fire

Third_Rail
April 6, 2005, 12:33 AM
Slam_Fire, good point on the usage of the word "weird".

We all stand together because of similar interests, let's not fall apart.

Werewolf
April 6, 2005, 12:32 PM
Thanks for the explanation Slam Fire and the links.

I had no idea that furdom had it's very own genre and that there were folks who collected furry art, fiction and movies. :D

I guess some folk branch out into all the world's variety more than others. And that is a good thing. :)

c_yeager
April 7, 2005, 05:56 AM
Oh my. On the internet anyone can find a peer...

I'm perfectly willing to accept that I'm weird for being a gun-owner, and probably for a hundred other reasons. Honestly being sexually attracted to cartoon animals is definatly in a different category, but heck you arent hurting anyone, so go for it. I won't tell you how to live, but i reserve the right to tell you what I think about it, and thats mutual.

Third_Rail
April 7, 2005, 11:44 AM
Some amendment thingie in that old scrap of paper... right? "Bill Of Rights, Article the First" or something. :neener:


However, most furries aren't sexually attracted to cartoon animals - they collect art, toys, etc. Not much different in my mind than collecting coins or whatnot.


I still think it's nice to find a few that are also interested in firearms, though!



What caliber for Bugs Bunny? :uhoh: :neener:

White Horseradish
April 7, 2005, 12:18 PM
What caliber for Bugs Bunny?It's duck season!


And shouldn't it be "What caliber for Elmer Fudd?"

flatdog
April 7, 2005, 01:43 PM
Wabbitt Season!!

Gifted
April 8, 2005, 08:05 AM
Twelve guage for both. Say, #6 shot?

LawDog
April 8, 2005, 08:24 AM
One of the artists at Backbreaker Studios draws people-type animals (or animal-type people, depending on your point of view), and given the details of the Martini-Henry, HK PSG-1, M60 and other guns in the drawings, I'd say he/she is probably a gunny, too.

LawDog

Oleg Volk
April 8, 2005, 10:43 AM
One of my shooting buddies in MN used to be a TFL member who was a furry fan. He also became a she at some point, retaining the love of AK47 and other loud toys. Some (socially conservative) people on TFL were clamouring to date "her" after I posted post-op photos. So mind the "weird" comment -- you never know who's on THR with you!

walking arsenal
October 24, 2006, 06:58 PM
Just thought I'd post on this one and drag it back up from the depths of the archives and see if there are any new opinions on it.:)

Cosmoline
October 24, 2006, 07:11 PM
Furries with guns... Now there's gotta be a movie there.

Personally, I haven't gotten over the terror of that well-known scene from "The Shining." Furries go on my personal list of creepy evil things, along with clowns and American ninjas.

AJ Dual
October 24, 2006, 07:49 PM
You know, every time I turn around, I find yet one more thing that stretches the envelope required for me to feel like a libertarian. Here I am, thinking my nominal acceptance of homosexuality and that I consider the Pink Pistols an awsome concept is taking my libertarian cred to new hights, and BAM!

Here come the "Furries"... :scrutiny:

But I don't judge. Whatever floats your boat. It's a free country.:D

I was peripheraly aware of the concept of "Furry" before this thread, but I must admit that my main impression was that one episode of CSI... I'm sure all interested parties know which one.

The one thing I think is that the Furries ought to at least be honest with themselves. Every link of "Legit" or "Clean" furry fan art the proponents have tried to provide was just one or two page links away from erotica, and even the majority of the "Clean" images were extremely strong on the "cheescake factor". IMO, fans may not see it that way, but I don't think those characters need to be naked before people start thinking, "what's up here?".

(BTW, because of the fur, are they really "naked"? Nevermind, I'm getting off track here....)

I have to be honest, I'm laughing, but I'm not condemning, is that good enough?

Justin
October 24, 2006, 09:36 PM
Seems to be a lot of necromancers (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/necromancer.htm) about lately.

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