Groups Decry Renegade Border Guards


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rick_reno
April 6, 2005, 03:28 PM
If Bush wants to "enforce the law in rational ways" why doesn't he start doing it? Where does the buck stop with this guy?

The banner leading into this fair and balanced report is "Minutemen Under Fire Some fear civilian border guards will violate illegal immigrants' human rights"

Groups Decry Renegade Border Guards
Tuesday, April 05, 2005

TOMBSTONE, Ariz. — More than a thousand Americans have descended on a remote stretch of the U.S.-Mexican border to join a group that calls itself the Minutemen (search), which claims to be dedicated to stopping illegal immigration, but which others call racist.

"Just a month previous to hearing about this, I said to a co-worker that I would be more than willing to spend a vacation to protect the borders," said one Minuteman.

Part public-relations stunt, part political theater, the makeshift border patrol has already had an impact. The activists have virtually closed down a popular pipeline used by people smugglers.

This weekend, the Minutemen spotted 118 illegal aliens trying to cross the border.

"Our laws are being broken, our borders are being penetrated," said one Minutewoman.

But the American Civil Liberties Union (search) and some Hispanic organizations are keeping an eye on the Minutemen, fearing they will violate the individuals' human rights.

"They're coming into Arizona with guns and they're threatening violence and harming people," said a protester.

Two weeks ago, President Bush, who supports a guest worker program (search) that would allow illegal immigrants to stay in the United States, called the Minutemen "vigilantes."

"I am against vigilantes in the United States of America; I am for enforcing law in rational ways," Bush said during a press briefing with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin.

Some who say they are protecting the border take exception to Bush's characterization.

"I was really disturbed that we were called 'vigilantes' by our president. We really don't feel that way, and that's not our statement and that's not who we are," said another Minuteman.

Cochise County (search) in Arizona is the size of Connecticut. Border Patrol agents acknowledge that they needs more help, but say they fear the Minutemen will do more harm than good.

"They're a bunch of civilians out there wandering aimlessly through the desert, setting off sensors. Our agents are having to respond to those sensors thinking it's an illegal alien," said Border Patrol agent Andy Adame.

The Minuteman Project is having an impact. Smugglers tell the Mexican press that crossing in the area where the Minutemen are patroling is now impossible and they have to go elsewhere or wait 30 days until the Minutemen are gone.

About 66,000 illegal immigrants were caught last month in one area where the Minutemen were offering back-up patrol. At that rate, the equivalent of the population of Indianapolis would be apprehended over a year.

The presence of the Minutemen is unlikely to solve the problem of illegal immigration into America, but the volunteers say that even if they can't stop it all, they predict that the publicity will raise awareness of the open border and force Bush to rethink a proposal that many of his core supporters oppose.

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Standing Wolf
April 6, 2005, 04:38 PM
"I am against vigilantes in the United States of America; I am for enforcing law in rational ways," Bush said during a press briefing with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin.

Which probably explains why millions upon millions of illegal aliens infest the United States like a cancer: Bush is still waiting for so-called "rational ways" to enforce the laws.

TallPine
April 6, 2005, 05:12 PM
The Minuteman Project is having an impact. Smugglers tell the Mexican press that crossing in the area where the Minutemen are patroling is now impossible and they have to go elsewhere or wait 30 days until the Minutemen are gone.
Pretty impressive for "a bunch of civilians out there wandering aimlessly through the desert"

:p

Crownvicman
April 6, 2005, 06:57 PM
When did the Border Patrol become a branch of the military?

ravinraven
April 6, 2005, 10:30 PM
...or no one would be calling them racists.

rr

Otisimo
April 6, 2005, 11:35 PM
So I guess the old neighborhood watch is now a "vigilante group"

ravinraven
April 7, 2005, 07:37 AM
...wants the law enforced is a redneck, racist, gun slinging thug.

rr

red_cedar
April 7, 2005, 08:24 AM
So I guess the old neighborhood watch is now a "vigilante group"



If the minutemen dont watch them self, someone will start calling then terrorist's...

imyerboogeyman
April 7, 2005, 11:45 AM
I wanna be a vigilante! :evil:

30 cal slob
April 7, 2005, 12:14 PM
Interesting concept.

Wonder how long it will last.

obiwan1
April 7, 2005, 12:28 PM
Gee........ Isn't the National Guard just a bunch of armed civilians :D

mainmech48
April 7, 2005, 12:38 PM
"They're a bunch of civilians out there wandering aimlessly through the desert, setting off sensors. Our agents are having to respond to those sensors thinking that it's an illegal alien," said Border Patrol agent Andy Adame.

Seems to me that if those sensors, and the BP's response to them, were as effective as Mr. Adame implies his area of responsibility wouldn't be nearly so popular with smugglers and border jumpers.

If the mere knowledge that there will be human eyes and ears whose location can't be reliably predicted in the area is enough to make the "coyotes" and the narcotraficantes consider it to be "too dangerous" for business as usual, perhaps it's time for Mr. Adame & company to re-think their modus operandi.

Just a random thought.

WilderBill
April 7, 2005, 02:51 PM
The main trouble with them is that there aren't enough of them, in enough places.
Did anyone else see the news story that said the Mexican army had move 1,000 troops in just across the border?

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