opinions please, trade HK45 for 1911 colt


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rcm
April 6, 2005, 04:38 PM
I have HK 45 compact for sale here. A gentleman local to me has offered a M1A 1911 US Goverment Colt in trade. It has been reblued and is as it came from the factory. The ramp will need work to shoot any flat nose loads. It is not in the pretty shape my HK is. He figures it came back after WWII. The serial number and re bluing was done in that period of time.

The question is do you think it's worth the trade. I do like the idea of having a real 1911. Tell me what you think, is it worth it or better yet what's it worth.

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TheEgg
April 6, 2005, 05:13 PM
A fairly rough, re-finished 1911?

I don't think I would make that trade, unless you can find out something about that 1911 that makes it better than what it sounds here.

Ala Dan
April 6, 2005, 05:34 PM
Another vote for NOT making the trade; details of the Colt are sketchy
as best. If you are truly interested in making the trade, ask the owner
of the Colt to provide some pic's in order to help you in the decision
making process. If he refuses, well you know what too do!

Missouri Mule
April 6, 2005, 05:38 PM
Even up ,HELL NO! Make him pay just for suggesting such a deal. Then trade with some , alot, of extra to boot!

Sean Smith
April 6, 2005, 05:38 PM
Re-finished gun that alread has caveats about feeding anything reliable? Value = nil. And I like old Colts.

OF
April 6, 2005, 05:46 PM
Agree. No deal.

- Gabe

rockstar.esq
April 6, 2005, 06:49 PM
You've got a better gun than a 1911, sell for $, spend $ on more guns

rcm
April 6, 2005, 07:37 PM
Thanks guys. You confirmed my thoughts.

Longbow
April 6, 2005, 07:55 PM
Sorry to jump-in late, but if you can resell that Colt for twice the $$, then go for it! :D
You can always get another H&K.
I've met some people who are into collecting old Colt's. They can go from $1K to >$3k! :eek:

Shipwreck
April 6, 2005, 08:16 PM
Yes, but the refinishing probably hurts the value of that gun.

Longbow
April 6, 2005, 08:56 PM
Aahh, sorry I missed the "' ' been reblued" part. :o

No deal then!

AgentOrange
November 30, 2008, 01:37 PM
actually, if the refinishing job dates about the same time as the serial number dates as you said, as far as collectors value goes it wont make one bit of difference.

also, what makes you think its been refinished?...is it stamped "reworked" or "refinished"?

i don t think so. plus, being a loong time colt collector i can tell you that there are often alot of mistakes made, and alot of people see some of the old high polished colt 1911s and swear that, because the c blueing and finish are in such great shape that they MUST be refinished, and most of the time there not.

ill give you an example of what im talking about. i was at a gunshow a few years back, and spied a extremely nice colt 1911 military on a table. the gun looked like it had been "refinished" yesterday and the park looked brand new. i noticed right away it had an adjustable rear site on it,which i hadnt seen before. the guy behind the table told me that the gun had been refinished he "thought" because it looked so nice, and because it had the adjustable rear sight on it, so he would let it go for 400 bucks. i bought it tinking that id use it for a kickaround gun. he included the box etc and i took it home. when i got there, just for chits and grins i looked the serial up and did some research on the gun. come to find out it was an original configuration national match gun. the sights were stock, and the finish was original. the box (unknown to me at the time) was the original military box the gun had came it (cardboard, and on the end it had all of the military designations,etc)...i had it verified, and then it sold the next week for over $5000.00 to a collector that i had been put into contact with my colt. ive also purchased early 1911s that i have been told and the people swore the were reworked, and come to find out they were original.


point is, when it comes to early 1911's, dont just assume there reworked.

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