Anyone heard about this ammo?


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Red Tornado
April 7, 2005, 03:08 PM
This close quarters .223 is for sale at Auctions Arms. See it here. (http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6506755)

It looks like a neat idea for HD if it works. Does it? Will it? Anybody got a clue?

The description is:
AMMO COLLECTORS LOOK! Weird HP Hirtenberger copper jacketed plastic core ammo. I was told it was experimental Austrian ammo for CQB (Close Quarter Battle) wet work. It blasts through 3-4" of newspaper close up with great expansion but SUPPOSEDLY won't even penetrate skin at 100 meters (Don't test this theory!). Very loud like regular .223 ball ammo but almost recoil-less. Would be great for small game with no worries about bullets coming down a mile away. Might not cycle great in short semi autos, but it works great in Mini 14's and most 20" AR15's. Auction is for 1 box of 20 but I have a lot, so let me know how much you want when you win. Freight is $6.00 for ANY quantity. Buy 10 boxes and the freight is still only $6.00. All major credit cards and PayPal for no extra charge and of course certified funds. See my other auctions too. The ammo is Hirtenberger, it was actually made for security forces working in control rooms, nuclear plant control centers and the like. They did not want the possibility of a round doing damage to all that expensive equipment.

RT

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entropy
April 7, 2005, 06:24 PM
I remember reading an ad for this stuff about a year ago. The other side of the wall made something similar in 7.62x54R, and that I can comment about, because I have shot some of it. The Czech 'white tip' practice ammo has a 46 gr. copper jacketed plastic core, and is advertised as able to function semi- and full auto weapons. I can't substantiate that one, I've only shot it from Mosin Nagants. It makes a huge fireball, loud BOOM! and there is no recoil whatsoever. My 11 year old son loves them! :evil: They group decent at 50 yds. as you can see from this group a friend shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/mosinfan/Czech46gr.jpg


Others who've shot them from Mosin 91/30's say they get 3-4" at 100 yds. , which is on a par with ball ammo. That .223 Hirtenberger would be fun to play around with, but for serious work, I think I'd go with Hornady TAP .223 .
Jusy my .02, YMMV. ;)

Spreadfire Arms
April 7, 2005, 07:25 PM
some indoor ranges that aren't designed to handle standard rifle rounds will allow plasticore.

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