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Drizzt
April 9, 2005, 03:14 AM
Program teaches dangers of firearms
David Casey
04/01/2005

CENTRAL FALLS -- It’s been in the pipeline for awhile but the city’s first-ever Toy Gun Bash, an anti-gun violence event sponsored by Attorney General Patrick Lynch, will go off without a bang on Saturday, April 2.

Channel One Director Angelo Garcia, who spent months coordinating the event with the Attorney General’s office, local police and various anti-violence organizations, said the program is an opportunity to teach children and parents about the dangers of real firearms, while showing them fun and practical alternatives to "violent" and "competitive" play -- nipping the problem of gun violence at the bud and the root, as it were. The fact that real guns are frequently mistaken for toys by children is another concern, according to Lynch.

The spoonful of sugar in this cautionary exercise is the Bash-O-Matic, a wacky toy-gun-crushing device designed for Patrick Lynch by the folks at Big Nazo Puppets.

Kids are encouraged to bring their toy guns to the entrance of Calcutt School, 112 Washington St., around 1 p.m., where they will be ceremoniously crushed and replaced with a non-violent toy.

"What better way to get kids to realize the repercussions of real-life violence and get them thinking of ways to re-think how they see the world and how they play then by offering them a free basketball," said Garcia. "It’s different for kids today. I think they see (guns) as a means to an end, a viable option. When I was growing up in Central Falls we didn’t go around saying ‘if you mess with me, I’ll blow your head off.’ Today it’s almost socially acceptable to use violence to resolve your problems."

The actual gun-bashing will take place in front of Calcutt School’s main entrance (the school has a zero-tolerance policy for any type of gun, real or fake), followed by a fun, educational and delicious reception in the school’s auditorium.

The day’s festivities will include informational booths from various local agencies, free pizza courtesy of The Central Falls Juvenile Hearing Board, free soda courtesy of Coke and Pepsi, raffle prizes, cookies courtesy of Aramark, a live broadcast by Hot106 FM and a three-point basketball shootout in which Patrick Lynch, who used to play professional basketball in Europe, will challenge all comers (including Mayor Charles Moreau).

A local missing children’s organization will be on hand to video tape, fingerprint and document children, free of charge, so parents can provide police with a comprehensive record of their vital information should they go missing.

The Rhode Island Doubledutch League will be teaching kids the lost art of jumping rope, one of many non-violent, non-competitive activities Garcia said he would like to see catch on.

"My staff and I have been working on initiatives to encourage non-competitive play, games where everybody is a winner and no one in singled out. We want kids to learn that play can be cooperative as well as competitive, and that not doing well at something isn’t the end of the world."

The Square Mile City’s inaugural Toy Gun Bash will be the fourth such event in the State of Rhode Island. The Bash was piloted at Providence’s Mount Hope Learning Center in spring 2003. Since then the attorney general’s office has hosted two bashes in Providence and one in Newport.

To date, the "Bash-O-Matic" has destroyed more than 1,000 toy guns, from water pistols to replicas, according to Michael Healey, a spokesman for the attorney general’s office.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14265040&BRD=1713&PAG=461&dept_id=24491&rfi=6

You know, I was thinking at first that it was an April Fool's Day story. That it couldn't be real... :banghead:

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SoCalGeek
April 9, 2005, 05:27 AM
Wow. I need to go vomit now.

benEzra
April 9, 2005, 09:12 AM
"My staff and I have been working on initiatives to encourage non-competitive play, games where everybody is a winner and no one in singled out.
Then why are they handing out basketballs?

The basketballs must have a warning label that says you aren't allowed to keep score when playing with it.

FWIW, I do think a lot of kid's sports are way too competitive (and I was the kid who was always picked near-last for teams in school), but I think saying that competitive games are NEVER appropriate is a bit silly.

Redneck Revolver
April 9, 2005, 09:59 AM
:banghead: :banghead: .....why? why? why? i just cannot even begin to....i dont know what wrods would be good for this.... :cuss:

Old Fuff
April 9, 2005, 10:12 AM
Then the kids will grow up prepared to live in our non-competitive society, and live happily ever after …

But anyway, this is Sheeple Country. :scrutiny: :rolleyes:

Shootcraps
April 9, 2005, 10:22 AM
Right. Teach them as kids that competition is bad and everyone is a winner. Then when they grow up and get passed over for promotion because they don't know how to compete against others and better themselves, they can comfort themselves that it's not their fault and the world is unfair. :banghead:

Crosshair
April 9, 2005, 12:29 PM
Wow I miss the day's of dogeball, smear the queer (Try just SAYING that on a playground today), red rover, 20ft swings, etc at school.

/Listens to Denis Learys, "Life's Gonna Suck"
//Great song :p

Cool Hand Luke 22:36
April 9, 2005, 12:37 PM
Kids are encouraged to bring their toy guns to the entrance of Calcutt School, 112 Washington St., around 1 p.m., where they will be ceremoniously crushed and replaced with a non-violent toy.


Eerily reminiscent of the way the Soviets would begin propagandizing thier children into the joys of communisim at an early age.

Backwoods
April 9, 2005, 12:48 PM
When my kids where young, it would have been no problen to get them to taunt this idiots. I'd have them walk up to the place where they're crushing these toys, take out thier toy guns, waive in front of(not at) these idiots and then flip them off and walk away. My boys would have done it in a heartbeat. Then we'd go to Dairy Queen and pig out. Too bad my youngest is 28.

Don in Ohio

John G
April 9, 2005, 01:01 PM
When he was a kid, my buddy's mom took his toy guns away. So he made a gun out of a half-eaten slice of toast.

"You can't stop me," he said "I'll make a toastgun."

dasmi
April 9, 2005, 01:02 PM
The Rhode Island Doubledutch League will be teaching kids the lost art of jumping rope, one of many non-violent, non-competitive activities Garcia said he would like to see catch on.

Jumping rope. They expect little boys to be happy with jumping rope. The Pussification of American marches on.
:banghead:
When I have children, they aren't going to a public school. That much I've already decided.

LiquidTension
April 9, 2005, 01:24 PM
It'll be interesting to compare these kids to their peers in 10-15 years. It would make a great sociological study.

"The Pussification of America: How Non-Competitiveness Leads to Complacency and Low Self Esteem"

Does this Lynch guy not realize that the kids that are picked on will still be picked on for being fat, stupid, funny looking, having dumb haircuts, having glasses, and whatever else kids get picked on for these days? There will ALWAYS be social stratification in schools, competition or not. The difference is, the kids that would have learned something from competing against each other will now NOT have that experience and will therefore be dominated by people that aren't from the land of blissninnies.

Double Maduro
April 9, 2005, 01:40 PM
and a three-point basketball shootout in which Patrick Lynch, who used to play professional basketball in Europe, will challenge all comers (including Mayor Charles Moreau).

Non-competetive?

DM

DarkKnight01
April 9, 2005, 03:04 PM
Wheres a good pipe bomb when ya need it ? :rolleyes:

garyk/nm
April 9, 2005, 03:06 PM
The Great Testosterone Shortage of '05.
These kids will grow up to be those wonderful adults who sue over noise problems after moving into an airport glide path.
I need some Rolaids.

natedog
April 9, 2005, 03:41 PM
"My staff and I have been working on initiatives to encourage non-competitive play, games where everybody is a winner and no one in singled out.

Way to go, teach kids to be "non-competitive" in a competitive, capitalist economy. I'd love to see the looks on their faces if they ever try to start a business and it fails. "But...but...I thought everyone is a winner?"

Socialist political indoctrination, coupled with gun control. Anyone else see an attempt to sheeple-fy America's children? Make them meek, remove their arms, and they will be easy to control.

Too Many Choices!?
April 9, 2005, 07:22 PM
Then when they get older they won't mind turning them all in, as long as they get pizza, soda, and a basketball out of the deal :uhoh: ! I bet they all scream ,"Yaaay!! Hooray!!", as the toy guns are smashed :rolleyes: ! That'll teach you kids to play like, well, kids.......I bet we all had water guns, cap guns, and bb guns and not too many of us has ever shot anyone or even at anyone with a real gun for that matter(some law enforcement and military being the exception of course :) ).

nico
April 9, 2005, 07:32 PM
When did "you need to work hard to achieve good things in life" become such an evil statement? Sure, it's nice when people get good things without having to work very hard, but those people are VERY lucky. These idiots are just setting their kids up to be failures in life.

I agree that kids sports have become too competitive, but that's the parents fault too. I played a lot of sports when I was growing up; at least one per season from the time I was 7 until I enterd high school. Kids who took everything too seriously were much more rare than parents who took it too seriously. The problem isn't kids playing sports where one team wins and another loses (and I say this with the experience of having played on a lot of losing teams and a few winning teams). The problem is that way too many parents can't/don't teach their kids any perspective. They allow their 5 year old to throw a temper tantrum because they lost a baseball game. Then, a bunch of these idiots, who can't seem to grasp the concept of telling their kids that losing a baseball game isn't the end of the world and not tolerating poor sportsmanship, get together and decide that the problem isn't them (of course). The problem is competition. That's how we end up with this bs.

And the worst part is teaching good sportsmanship and how to take sports in perspective is incredibly easy. Kids play sports because they're fun. Of course winning is fun too, but the sport is inherently fun. All a parent has to do is tell their kid that if they throw a temper tantrum when they lose, they won't be allowed to play anymore and mean it (that should go without saying, but nowadays parents tell their kids all sorts of crap they don't mean). Problem solved.

Firethorn
April 9, 2005, 07:37 PM
My parents would have sent me in with the cheapest toy pistol to get the nice goodies.

Kinda like those of us who'd pick up a $25 kel-tec or something broken for that $50 turn-in money.

Standing Wolf
April 9, 2005, 08:04 PM
What a bunch of wussies!

NHBB
April 9, 2005, 08:10 PM
thank God we still have some people left here who are bringing up their children to go against the grain and not eat this pacifist crap hook line and sinker.

from a previous post... "smear the queer" LOL that was a grand past time on the playground when I was a kid... but you are right even though it was not about gay bashing it would probably carry great ramifications in some school systems these days.

sm
April 9, 2005, 08:17 PM
If I were Rich...

I'd have to promote a free day of Eddie Eagle, followed by range time, paintball, anything where the kids could COMPETE for prizes, and actually see the safety, responsible fun firearm related activities can be.

I'd coincide this on the same day, do a media blitz and have all sorts of Pro RKBA folks to assist.

Let the kids decide. Kids have a tendency to see past smoke and mirrors...they figure out how Magicians do tricks before adults do.

If I were only Rich...I swear I would.

jamz
April 9, 2005, 08:21 PM
Have heart people. Take comfort in the fact that, after the kids go home from what obviously is an adult exercise in foolishness, the kids will go right back to being (naturally) competitive and making toastguns. :) One idiotic program will not a wussy society make.


-James

iamkris
April 9, 2005, 09:20 PM
"My staff and I have been working on initiatives to encourage non-competitive play, games where everybody is a winner and no one in singled out. We want kids to learn that play can be cooperative as well as competitive, and that not doing well at something isn’t the end of the world."

There are studies about kids who are graduating college now and entering the work force that a much higher percentage of them are having trouble coping with the "real world". They are the first generation that had "helicopter parents"...i.e., parents that were always hovering, making sure everyone got a prize, no scores, no hurting anyone's feelings.

This kind of behavior, my friends, is a bigger threat to our economy and society than any Red China problem. It's all the dang hippies growing up and having kids/teaching parenting skills...

P95Carry
April 9, 2005, 09:39 PM
It really, really worries me that there are folks promulgating this sorta crap. This attempt at disassociation from anything competitve (OMG - if there is a winner - there will be losers - oh heck - can't have that - it means psycho trauma!).

Then we have the attempt at expunging violence - the nieve thought that all future lil' people can be neutered and for ever made non-violent. Has anyone explained the basic human genetic make-up - ever!? It's not trying to expunge violence - just a case of the direction it takes - self-control I believe it used to be called. Ya know - that control us CCW types excercize so as to avoid the ''rivers of blood''.

Sheesh - time for another sedative! :rolleyes:

Atticus
April 9, 2005, 11:28 PM
"It’s different for kids today. I think they see (guns) as a means to an end, a viable option. When I was growing up in Central Falls we didn’t go around saying ‘if you mess with me, I’ll blow your head off.’ Today it’s almost socially acceptable to use violence to resolve your problems."

That's one nugget of truth in the whole article. It's just too bad they don't, or won't, address the issues that have created that attitude.

c_yeager
April 10, 2005, 04:50 AM
Right. Teach them as kids that competition is bad and everyone is a winner. Then when they grow up and get passed over for promotion because they don't know how to compete against others and better themselves, they can comfort themselves that it's not their fault and the world is unfair.

Hey now, this was a fad a few years ago, and those of us in our mid-twenties got to catch a bit of it. I LOVE it. Many of my peers have no idea how competitive the real world is. All you have to do now is give %5 more than your coworkers (who are halfassing at best) and you get to have whatever you want. People i've worked with comiserate with one another about how poorly they are all payed, I went to my boss and said "hey, im better than these guys, pay me more", its awesome.

Seriously, being even a little assertive these days opens more doors than you can imagine. People in the workforce right now grew up with this nonesense about everyone being special (and if EVERYONE is special then being special isnt) And so many dont even realize that you actually have to ask for things if you want them. In the real world there is no teacher watching to make sure that everyone gets an equal portion of the pie. The longer it takes people to realize that, the longer the rest of us have to get ahead.

gezzer
April 10, 2005, 09:56 PM
Note: RI voted a Kennedy to be their Rep in Congress.

Sickening isn't it?:barf:

SteveS
April 11, 2005, 12:04 PM
Have heart people. Take comfort in the fact that, after the kids go home from what obviously is an adult exercise in foolishness, the kids will go right back to being (naturally) competitive and making toastguns. One idiotic program will not a wussy society make.

Good point. Any follow up to this article? How many people actually showed up to this event?

HankB
April 11, 2005, 12:52 PM
They have a "gun basher?" Hmmm . . . if they'd had something like that when I was a little kid, I would have been inclined to take one of my old, cheap toy guns and load it up with "cracker balls" and then watch for an explosion when it was "bashed." (Cracker balls were the local version of torpedos - fireworks that detonated when thrown against a hard surface or stepped on.)

Once, in grade school, several decades ago, they tried to have us play some dopey "non competitive" game involving running here and there with a ball during recess. Didn't work out so well - most of the kids figured, if we can't win OR lose, why even bother trying? This experiment ended after a week or two with the teacher just doing a lot of yelling at kids who weren't inclined to play along, after which it was back to schoolyard softball. (Yes, we DID keep score!!!)

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