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BlkHawk73
April 9, 2005, 09:16 AM
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Ok, I've about zero experience with gun safes. However, now that an entirely new gun room is to built while the new garage/breezeway is being built, a new safe will be purchased. I will likely never need a long gun capacity of no more than 20. basically, I guess I want a long gun area on one side and some shelves on the other side and above the long gun area. Won't be able to go super pricey but no $1500+ stuff I'm hoping. Don't need fancy looks either. So please let me hear what you suggest and why.
Thanx!


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Ohen Cepel
April 9, 2005, 09:25 AM
Been a long time since I bought mine.

AMSEC fit my need well. However, I bought them since that was what the local dealer carried. For me at the time that was really the only option since the frieght on one was too expensive and they would drop it on the side of the road.

I would also say don't buy anything with a name on it that didn't make it (ie, Harley, S&W, Ruger, etc). Those people don't make safes and you pay for the fluff.

Buy bigger than you think you will ever need! It's said everytime and most times guys come back saying they wish they would have bought bigger. The makers idea of x# of guns never seems to be real. Also, you put scopes on them they take up much more room.

I would strongly recommend the "Acorn" door system if you have handguns. Holds about 12 on the door and works great.

If you do a search for safes I think you may find more info.

shoot870p
April 9, 2005, 01:48 PM
buy bigger than you "think" you will "ever need". you will be surprised at the things that will end up needing to be protected during trips and such. Remember, the safe is " not just for firearms anymore!". But- DO NOT so large that you cannot get it inside the area you will be placing it. friend purchased a safe too big to fit thru doors at end of hall and had to place it in his garage.
just a point to consider.

ksnecktieman
April 9, 2005, 02:47 PM
You are building a "gun room" and you need a safe to go in it? Maybe consider the price of gun safes, and the security of them, and talk to your contractor about reinforcing the room?
If professionals get to it I would expect any personal safe will be breached in 90 minutes, maybe less (If you are not at home they will have access to all your power tools).

I have never considered a "strong room" (different than a "safe room"). Possibly something like "cattle panels" embedded in the walls, welded together before sheet rock is hung, and a good sturdy all steel door? A good lock system, or multiple dead bolts. Basically a cage of steel rods covered by sheetrock or paneling?

Advantages? You will also have a safe room. You will have a place to store other valuables. You will never have to get a bigger safe. Scopes, binoculars, hunting clothes, reloading supplies, ammunition, chronograph, all shooting supplies can be kept together, and all will be secure.
Disadvantages? If you have a window, it will have to have bars, maybe an internal shutter arrangement so you can swing it open when you are in there. Fire protection will have to be considered. If you are reloading or working on one gun, visiting children or idiots will have access to everything.

Locks are made to keep honest people honest, and any system can be defeated in enough time.

If you do check with your contractor, will you let us know what he bids for a price?

fredcwdoc
April 9, 2005, 02:59 PM
I bought a Canon from my local gunshop that holds 24 rifles and room for several pistols. Cost was $700 on sale and they don't charge tax on gunsafes. I don't remember the model number but I'm sure they have a webite. I'm confused on what you consider a "gun room." The ones I have seen are reinforced cement walls all the way around with a walk in gun safe front on it or some type of reinforced metal door.

Hot brass
April 9, 2005, 03:04 PM
Get a big`un.

CB900F
April 9, 2005, 08:02 PM
Blkhawk;

If your budget is approx $1500.00, do a search here for RSC. You almost certainly will be buying a Residentail Security Container, not a safe. There are major differences between the two & you owe it to yourself to know what they are.

900F

Kingcreek
April 9, 2005, 08:20 PM
I will likely never need a long gun capacity of no more than 20.
Where is that laughing hysterically smilie?
I said the same thing about 30 long guns ago.

Guy B. Meredith
April 9, 2005, 11:41 PM
One manufacturer, I believe it is Amsec, is pouring concrete into the walls of the firesafes rather than the drywall. Anyone know if it helps security?

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