What's the oldest gun you own ?


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March 13, 2003, 08:22 PM
Did you buy it or was it left to you?Please include any history you have about the gun.

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March 13, 2003, 08:25 PM
my cz-52 is stamped with a 1953 manufacture date.
i dunno what my Mauser M98 is, thanks to yugoslavias factory removing those markings.

March 13, 2003, 08:26 PM
Oldest I have is a VZ24 Mauser 1938. Still shoots straight, looks mean.


Wil Terry
March 13, 2003, 08:30 PM
patent dates. It was a family pistol used to whack two Indians who decided a g.g.g grandmomma would be easy pickin's.
She wasn't. The injuns moved on to easier pickin's in the happy hunting grounds and volunteered as fertilizer in g.g.g. grandmomma's well kept garden.
The pistol is in remarkably good shape and is beautifully made.

Andrew Wyatt
March 13, 2003, 08:30 PM
remington rolling block, 50-70 saddle ring carbine. 150 or so years oid.

March 13, 2003, 08:31 PM
The oldest I have is a Russian Makarov made in 1976. It's one of the Russians that was mis-marked "BULGARIA" by the importer.

March 13, 2003, 08:31 PM
1892 Lebel berthier , shot it last week . I got it in trade for rebuilding a carburator on a IH cub cadet , the person thought he was geting the better half of the deal because He couldn't find any ammo , ha should have seen the look on his face when I showed up at the range with ammo for it . and shot it . :D

March 13, 2003, 08:36 PM
Remington model 11, grade 1, 20 ga., I believe it was made the last year of production, 1948.
My dad carried this shotgun for as long as I can remember, and is the only gun he ever bought new and still had until his death.
I take it out with my model 97 (which I guess is older but does not have the memories), and break some clays a couple time a year.

Marko Kloos
March 13, 2003, 08:39 PM
My oldest gun at present is a Steyr Mannlicher M95 carbine in 8x56R Hungarian. The receiver is stamped "BUDAPEST 1909".

It still shoots fine and has a resaonably sharp bore. I managed to squirrel away 200+ rounds of 8x56R ammo, which hasn't been loaded since 1940 or so.

That rifle could probably tell stories...it was most likely issued in WWI and either passed to Italy before WWII as war reparation, or used by rear-echelon German/Austrian troops in WWII.

March 13, 2003, 08:41 PM
um.... not really sure how old this thing is, it says 1898 on it, its a 30-40 krag, it looks really cool and its like 5 ft long. thats the oldest thing i know of. actualy wait, i also have an ollllllld shotgun (looks more like a blunderbus or something) that suposedly whacked indians on the penn. frontier way back when. no markings whatsoever, its just older than dirt. been passed down since we were amish

March 13, 2003, 08:48 PM
The oldest one I own is my Romanian SKS. A friend of mine bought one at a pawn shop. It had an aftermarket stock on it and a scope. I shot it and liked it. My girlfriend (now fiance) saw one in a local paper for sale. We made the trip up to the guy's house. He had one in pretty rough shape but I bought it anyway. I redid the stock and cleaned it up and shot the crap out of it. I traded it and another gun for my Beretta and hated it. I later found out that the guy at the gun shop liked it so much he had taken it home to keep. My girlfriend found this out and got it back for me last christmas! Talk about being surprised. So after 7 months I had my 1959 Romanian SKS back. :)

March 13, 2003, 08:48 PM
An Enfield No.4 Mk.I, ex No.4 Mk.I(T), if I interpret the stamps correctly from 1945.

March 13, 2003, 08:49 PM
i have a 12 ga. ithaca hamerless shotgun (side-by-side) manufactured circa 1920's? or thereabouts. i bought the shotgun from my uncle for $125 last year... i wanted it because when i first moved out here, it was the gun i borrowed on my first pheasant hunt, and is responsible for my first pheasant.

i don't know anything about its history other than it is fairly old, shoots rather well, and is worth more than i paid for it... i do know that my uncle bought it secondhand many many moons ago. other than that, it seems to handle modern loads just fine (it has steel barrels, not damascus), and is fun to hunt w/, in spite of its weight.

March 13, 2003, 08:51 PM
Savage Model 16? exposed hammer SxS 12 gauge. The only markings on it are "King Nitro" on the side of the reciever. My dad bought it used when he was a teenager. One of the sears needs work, if you pull the wrong trigger first, both barrels go :what:

March 13, 2003, 08:52 PM
Probably my Beretta Elite II, made some time in 2000?

March 13, 2003, 08:54 PM
1899 Krag-Jorgenson carbine -- a real one, not a cut down rifle -- in .30-40 Krag. Looks great, action smooth as a baby's bottom (as my old woodwork teacher used to say), and shoots like a dream.


March 13, 2003, 08:54 PM
I have my Great-granddads double barrel shotgun. All I can find out about it is it was of Belgian maufacture around the turn of the century.

March 13, 2003, 08:55 PM
I have a 1937 vintage Colt Official Police, 38 special.
I bought it, because it was carried by a cop at my agency some 60 years ago.

March 13, 2003, 09:00 PM
The oldest gun I currently own is my HK91 made in 1980.

Baba Louie
March 13, 2003, 09:07 PM
Mauser 96 made in 1900, Obie - 6.5
Mauser C96 made in 1900, Obie - rechambered from .30 to 9


March 13, 2003, 09:12 PM
1937 Russian 91/30 "Sporterized"

I plan to save all my guns and pass them down. Then I can say cool things like "sonny, I bought this brand new in aught three, that was when you had to work for a dollar."


March 13, 2003, 09:18 PM
I have a 1963 Marlin 336 that I think is the oldest commercial gun I own. I have two No 4 Mk 1*s dated 1943 and may have a C&R rifle older that I haven't dated accurately.

Oldest handgun is a 1973 Ruger Single Six.

March 13, 2003, 09:19 PM
1891 Argentine Mauser. Mom bought it at a garage sell for $5.

March 13, 2003, 09:21 PM
1851 Colt Navy .36 Shoots great too, I might add.

This is a family gun, belonging to us since right after the Civil War. My great great grandpa confiscated it from a Union Soldier that did not need it any longer. Grandpa was 10, but evidently old enough to protect the homestead against carpet baggers and scaliwags.

El Tejon
March 13, 2003, 09:25 PM
Heirloom Percussion muzzle-loading shotgun hand-built (we believe) after the Civil War (plate says 1866). Father has an heirloom flintlock pistol from ancestor, unknown year.

Standing Wolf
March 13, 2003, 09:27 PM
1979 High Standard Trophy, purchased new. It's still the single most reliable, most accurate pistol I've ever owned.

March 13, 2003, 09:29 PM
My first rifle a M91 mosin nagant marked 1899 with the St Petersburg armory markings.

I still shoot it

I also recently picked up an Enfield MKIII (stock goes to end of the barrel) marked 1915
It has a pristine bore and is a sweet shooter

Mike Irwin
March 13, 2003, 10:37 PM
An Mle 1873 French Ordnance Revolver, stamped 1876.

Used as the front-line French revolver until 1892, when the 8mm Lebel was adopted, but it soldiered on in Colonial and Foreign Legion use until after World War II.

One of the reasons why I was so impressed with the movie The Mummy is that Brendhan Fraiser's character is in the Legion in the 1920s and is armed with Mle 1873s.

March 13, 2003, 11:34 PM
M1 .30 Carbine. If I recall correctly it was manufactured in July of 1942.


March 14, 2003, 12:16 AM
1944 Winchester M1 Carbine. Appears all original, little used. Love that war baby.


Malone LaVeigh
March 14, 2003, 12:28 AM
Old Starr revolver. Patent date is either 1850 or 1856, but I have no idea what the date of manufacture is.

My oldest working firearm is a Springfield Armory Model of 1911 manufactured in 1914. It still shoots remarkably well.

March 14, 2003, 12:33 AM
Late 17th or early 18th century Indian Matchlock. Has a hole blown out the side of the barrel, I wouldn't have shot it using someone else's hands!:what: But the gold inlay is pretty.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
March 14, 2003, 12:33 AM
My oldest is a Swedish Mauser, made in Orbendorf in 1898. Next, but not by much is a Colt Thunderer (M. 1887) in .41 Colt with a serial indicating a manufacture date of 1900. This one belonged to a policeman in my hometown who acquired it from the legendary Texas Ranger M.T. 'Lone Wolf' Gonzallus. It was a gift to me from my father not long ago.


"If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world
peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until
the looting started..."

March 14, 2003, 12:57 AM
My oldest is my P7M8 that has an II date code on it which would make it an '88 vintage. I bought it soon after my son was born. I figured at some point, he'd be able to pull the trigger, at some point, he'd be able to squeeze the grip but by the time he would be able to do both at the same time, I'd be able to teach him proper handgun safety....I was right! ;) Plus, it was the only gun I kept when I had to consolidate my collection.

March 14, 2003, 01:02 AM
Short lever Martini-Henry in .577-450. Actual age unknown, probably 1870s-80s, purchased at gun show.

Schmidt Rubin M96/11. Pre-1910, purchased from local collector.

M1896/38 Swedish Mauser. Dated 1900, bought from friend.

March 14, 2003, 01:04 AM
I have several Mausers and two shotguns from before 1900, but I went to an aution in Annandale, MN a couple years ago where an unmarked matchlock was being sold. I missed that gun by about 10 minutes. It sold for $300.00 and was beautiful. It looked Persian, but I'm no expert. It had been fired. Bummer.


March 14, 2003, 01:17 AM
A 1945 Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine

March 14, 2003, 01:37 AM
1891 Argentine Mauser. Actually I have two. One for parts and one for shooting. The shooting one is amazingly accurate for a rifle over a century old. The stock is also in prime condition. Most amazingly of all, the mainspring still has tremendous force in it. Frankly it's in far better shape than many 1930's and 1940's era '98s I own. These early Mausers were made to last!

March 14, 2003, 01:46 AM
44-40. Ser# indicates 1890 manufacture, 24" barrel. Wood and metal are good for a 112 year old rifle, still has the casehardening on the receiver and a 'patina' that replaces the blued metal. Bore is aweful, but the rifeling goes all around and it STILL shoots accurately with properly sized lead bullets! :D
Smoothest trigger and action of any leveraction I've ever shot.:cool:

March 14, 2003, 02:22 AM
Black powder SxS 10 guage muzzle loading exposed hammer shot gun This gun has been in the family for loong time. Was made by/for A.B. Semple and Sons, of Louisville, Kentucky. Not sure of the date of manufacture but suspect pre Civil War. I have tried to research the maker ( Semple) but the only thing I have been able to come up with is that they were offical dealers for Remington (pre Civil War...?) Also that they were indeed in Louisville Kentucky. If any body has any other info on this maker/dealer feel free to PM me

March 14, 2003, 06:07 AM
Stevens Favorite made 1889, bore ruined by blackpowder 22s and relined, bluing all gone to a nice brown, some traces of casehardening left, receiver peep sight, still a good squirrel gun.

Winchester Model 52 Speed Lock made 10/29, still a tack-driver.

March 14, 2003, 06:49 AM
1961 DDR Pistolet Makarova.:D

March 14, 2003, 08:04 AM
1954 Romanian M-44
1955 International Harvester made M-1
Marlin 99 I have no idea how old

March 14, 2003, 08:21 AM
Right now my 1954 Tula SKS (born the same year I was).

Pretty soon my 1944 Garand which I've bought but haven't received yet (born the same year my wife was).

Both are in good shape but not pristine collectibles. Both will be shooters. Just like us :)

March 14, 2003, 08:50 AM
Yugo SKS - I think it was made in 1959 (or maybe '66?)

all the rest of my firearms were purchased new over the last year or so.

March 14, 2003, 09:36 AM
1943-- Colt 1911A1
1947--J.C. Higgins 12ga. pump

March 14, 2003, 09:38 AM
1915 DWM German Luger. It was sold to me by son of the man who brought it home from WWII. Shoots fine, not really a collectors item as it does not have all matching serial numbers. Usually causes some excitement at a range due to it's relative rarity. Quantrill

March 14, 2003, 10:05 AM
Might be my Yugo 24/47 Mauser, might be my Yugo SKSs, or it might be my Sistema 1927, I dont know for sure, but probably the Mauser.


March 14, 2003, 10:25 AM
I have a mid 1800's boys shotgun. Black powder cap and ball. This gun was found by my Grandfather in a house that they owned in Marion NC. He found it behind an old barrel of chicken feed/corn.

My Granddad fired this a couple of time with bb's as the shot. The last time it was fired, a small piece of the hammer broke off and went through his left pinky finger.

This gun is in not too great condition, and I would love to refinish it...but then again, maybe I'll just leave it alone.

March 14, 2003, 10:36 AM
An 1855 Colt Side Hammer Revolver in Nickel finish. Commonly known as a Root revolver for the man who invented it and let Colt sell it. It was manufactured from 1855 to 1870. .28 Caliber. It was left to me in the original walnut case with powder holder, bullet mold and a circular metal case for the caps. Never shot it and never will. Neat looking piece.

March 14, 2003, 10:50 AM
Winchester 1897, or one of two 1903 Springfields. Very cursory research dates them all to the 1920s.

Got the '97 through Auction Arms, got the '03s from the CMP.

March 14, 2003, 11:07 AM
A 1913 Sauer. Non firing/missing parts. Brought back from WWII by a great Uncle, God rest his soul. Apparently picked it up from a German soldier who the gun didn't seem to do much good for. Uncle redered it non-firing after a far removed stupid family member almost shot themselves with it many moons ago. I could probably find another one or the parts but it hasn't been high on my priority list as I might frame it and the bring back papers and use it as a display piece.

A 1947 Enfield Jungle Carbine.

A 1948 Mauser

A 1954 M1 Garand.

My family has an old mid-1800s muzzel loading SXS shotgun hanging in their basement. Really good shape but I wouldn't want to shoot the thing. I am sure it is worth next to nothing since shotguns were soooo common but it is still an interesting piece. I am pretty sure my g-g-etc. Grandparents used it to fend off indians or hunt or whatever.


4v50 Gary
March 14, 2003, 11:52 AM
Trapdoor Springfield. Infantry model that was cut down and spoterized. Second oldest is a slabside Broomhandle C-96 in 7.62 mm Mauser. Serial #28XXX leaves me to believe it was made no sooner than 1899.

March 14, 2003, 12:11 PM
CZ52 stamped 1954. A thing of beauty. Very 'art-deco', it reminds me of russian locomotives from the 1930's!:)

March 14, 2003, 01:30 PM
1933 S&W 1917 Commercial Model. Purchased off the internet a few months ago.


It's headed to a gunsmith this afternoon for a restoration. Hope it comes out well...


March 14, 2003, 01:39 PM
Smith and Wesson Model One Second Issue - a 7-shot tip up chambered for the original black powder 22 rimfire. It has a square butt with octagon barrel and has flat sides to its frame and a large irregularly shaped side plate. Manufacturing dates range from 1880 to 1868.

March 14, 2003, 01:43 PM
Springfield Armory M-1 Garand, born in January 1944. I just know it was put to good use during the summer of '44.

Ala Dan
March 14, 2003, 02:09 PM
Have owned a bunch of Smith & Wesson's dating back
to the 60's and 70's. However, the oldest currently in
inventory would be my West German SIG-Sauer P228,
dating back to 1990. Serial is B111XXX, which could be
among the first shipments of this weapon to the United
States. If memory serves me correctly, a former member
over at TFL had a P228 that's prefix was B109XXX.

My P228 has Herndon, VA on the slide, as the destination
point; instead of Exeter, New Hanpshire. It also has this:
"Made In West Germany"; of which signifies to me,
a weapon of excellent craftsmanship. My .45 caliber SIG-
Sauer P220A is also of the West German variety.

Still looking: for a practically NIB .45 caliber Browning-BDA,
which was the forerunner to the SIG-Sauer P220?

Fine weapons; although a bit pricey.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

March 14, 2003, 02:47 PM
Eastern Arms Company single shot break open 12 gauge shotgun. Formerly my Grandfather's. Dates from late 1920s into the 1930's sometime. Never asked when he bought or where he bought it. Too late to do so now.

March 14, 2003, 03:17 PM
Mauser 96 made in 1900, Obie - 6.5

Got me beat by a few years... Mine's a 1905...

March 14, 2003, 03:17 PM
That would HAVE to be the Winchester 1887 12 ga that I bought for cowboy action. Stocks are beautiful, bluing is a nice brown, and action is VERY tight. I also occassionally shoot trap with it, usually supprising people that a 100+ year old shotgun can shoot that well! Serial number places DOM before 1899...

six 4 sure
March 14, 2003, 04:11 PM
Colt 1911 U.S. Property marked, manufactured 1917.


March 14, 2003, 06:12 PM
I have a few pre-1899 ones but I believe my oldest is a little German gallery gun from the 1860's.

The barrel is VERY worn out but it still shoots. I imagine it protected an immigrant's farm for many many years here in America. I got it, and several more, from my grandfather.

Larry Ashcraft
March 14, 2003, 06:59 PM
Winchester 1894 .32 Special rifle, about 1910.
Savage 1899, 303 Savage, pre 1916, "shiny gun".
LC Smith wall hanger, probably about 1910.
2-pre WWI 1903's.
1942 Garand.
1944 M1 Carbine.
1922 Browning .32, WWII mfg.

March 14, 2003, 07:38 PM
Well, my oldest rifle is a sporterized (by someone else) Swedish Mauser stamped 1910. As for pistols, it's be my Colt 1903 Hammerless. The serial number indicates that it was made in 1921.

March 14, 2003, 08:55 PM
A 1903 Colt Pocket .32 Auto, handed down to my dad from his dad and from my dad to me. Doesn't shoot very well and I'm thinking of having it lovingly restored. After all, it's not worth much money, it just has sentimental value.

March 14, 2003, 09:43 PM
Brass barreled flintlock blunderbuss. Not sure how old . Think it came from some oriental country?:rolleyes:

Sleeping Dog
March 14, 2003, 10:12 PM
M96 Swede mauser from 1900, made in Oberndorf. Shoots nice for such an old thing.



March 14, 2003, 11:48 PM
My Great Gramp's Parker SxS, circa 1890's.

March 14, 2003, 11:48 PM
WOW Sleeping Dog...

Your Swede looks almost as good as mine...:D

Mu oldest is a Swede, Carl Gustav made in 1901. Very accurate.

Then a Winchester 1897 made in 1907.

March 15, 2003, 01:16 AM
my ever loving all purpose shotgun

March 15, 2003, 03:51 AM
My dad got a Rem 870 police shotgun in 1968

Now it's with me, and definitely older than my KK coded USP9 ;)

Kahr carrier
March 15, 2003, 06:01 AM
An old Colt 25 Auto. Found it after my dad passed away. He use to carry it around Oakland in the old days.;)

March 15, 2003, 06:35 AM
It's my Winchester Model 1895 in 30-40 Krag made in 1926 as far as I can find out. It was my father's until he passed away a year ago, sure do miss him still. He came in possession of it when my mother's uncle commited sucide with it. The uncle found out that he had cancer and put the barrel under his chin. The aunt asked my dad to get it out of the house as she didn't want it anymore. It was all he ever used from that date on for deer hunting. I took it out this past season but not being used to the peep sights I missed two deer with it. I only had it a little while before season and had shot it a few times but this year plan on doing more shooting with it so I can use it for what it's meant for and drop a deer in memory of my father.

March 15, 2003, 12:03 PM
Sweet paint job Sleeping Dog...

(now before anyone freaks out, I KNOW it's not a paint job it's just a phrase we use around my house for really cool markings and such) :D

March 15, 2003, 12:36 PM
My most prized possesion is my Great Grandfathers Marlin 1894 in 30-30. It has a octagon barrel and is setup for a Tang Site. I am the fourth generation in my family to own this fine gun. I am a little bummed out because I am the only person in my family that has not shot a deer with it. My grandpa shot several Elk, and a Black Bear. Most people would never think to use a little 30-30 to hunt Elk, but that is all they had so that was what they used. My father used it to deer hunt for many years with great success. It is 110 years old and still shoots like the day it was made. I can shoot accurately way past 100 yards. I have been offered $1500 for it and would not sell it for ten times that.

Flying V
March 15, 2003, 02:28 PM
M96 Swedish Mauser, 1904 Carl Gustav.
Ljungman AG42B, 1943
Russian SKS, Tula arsenal, 1950
East German Makarov, 1963
Chinese SKS, also 1963.

March 15, 2003, 03:24 PM
A Winchester M1907 in .351 winchester - it was made in 1907.

A '96 Krag that was sporterized many years ago, from a fullsize rifle.

A R.B. Rodda & Co British single shot, Field's Patent falling block action, caliber .500-.450 #1 Blackpowder Express, circa 1890, I am told.

I have shot all three - the Krag is quite amazingly accurate. The other two fall into the "project":rolleyes: catagory.

March 15, 2003, 03:41 PM
03 Springfield
AC 41 P-38
M1 Gurand
M1 Carbine
FN-49 in 30-06

March 15, 2003, 05:27 PM
I have a Ruger 22 pistol thst dates to 1955. Interesting to note that Ruger started making them in 1949. It smells like leather and oil and reminds me of days long past.

March 15, 2003, 06:30 PM
An ancient remington 597 made last year

March 15, 2003, 06:44 PM
Maybe "What's the oldest gun you shoot" would also be a good thread?


In my case, 1890 for the British single shot!

March 15, 2003, 11:42 PM
An original 1896 Krag carbine that I bought in '71 in El Paso, TX for $75.00. Have been offered more than $1,000.00 for it, sight unseen. Wish I had all the meat from all the deer it's killed over the past thirty-odd years! A great shooting old rifle.:D

March 16, 2003, 09:34 AM
Just bought a Finn M28 with a 1897 receiver. I am shooting it this afternoon.
I have quite a few Finn mosins with receivers prior to 1907.
They all shoot great!

March 16, 2003, 10:22 AM
My oldest is a 577x450 Martini Enfield from 1883.


March 16, 2003, 11:01 AM
A model 1891 Mosin-Nagant made by New England Westinghouse for the Russians in 1914. It never made it to Russia and someone decided to 'sporterize' it... :fire:
It's a nice shooter, though...

March 16, 2003, 07:11 PM
I am buying a 1911A1 from a coworker, It is a Remington Rand, WW2 issue. The Story is the guy had it from the war and it was used to shoot a german officer after said officer's luger failed to fire, I could not get the luger with it, but I get the 1911, holster, belt, mag pouch, 3 mags ( one with 7 rounds in it ) and a full box of period ammo.

Hunt Greer
March 16, 2003, 11:38 PM
My second single action revolver for CAS is an original S&W 5 shot .38S&Wsecond issue with spur trigger. Has virtually no original finish left and more than a few light pits, but the bore is really pretty good for a b.p. gun of its age, and is in near perfect mechanical condition! As near as I can deduce, it was made in 1881 or 1882. Still shoots nice!!!

March 17, 2003, 12:38 AM
Oldest, longest in my collection?

Oldest, the one that was manufactured earliest? (this seems to be the main question people are actually answering)

Oldest, oldest design?

I apologize if these questions have been asked and answered, I probably should read all posts before posting (as I usually do).


Longest in collection: Marlin 60. I've had it about 2 1/2 years

Manufactured earliest: Colt Police Positive Special (handgun). No idea when it was made but I do know for sure it was a while ago since the model was discontinued in 1973. SKS (rifle), it was made in the late 50s or early 60s (I don't remember off hand and I don't want to go get the rifle). Those are my oldest handgun and rifle respectively, since I don't know the actual date of manufacture for my Colt I don't actually know which one is older so I'll list both.

Oldest design: Winchester 94 lever rifle.

March 17, 2003, 12:56 PM
Half of my collection is "old". :D

The first gun I ever bought was a Winchester '94, 'cuz it LOOKED old-timey (But built in the Seventies! :o ). Next was a Savage-built #4 Enfield Lend-Lease gun stamped "U.S.Property" from '42. Third gun was the Trapdoor. I do like 'em old, as they're better built.

I'll list until I get bored. WW-II is the cutoff as far as OLD guns. After that they become contemporary.

OldEST I believe is my Field-grade 10-guage Parker side-lock hammer double shotgun. It was built in the late 1870's, I think.

Two Colt Lightning Rifles, the .38-40 from 1891 and the .44-40 from 1884.

M-1879 Trapdoor Springfield, cartouched 1882.

Mk-I Webley revolver, .45 cal., 1888.

Mk-IV Webley revolver, .45 cal., 1914.

Carl Gustaff M-1896 SwederMauser, 1906.

Winchester 97 takedown pump shotgun, 1907.

S&W Pre-M&P Model of 1902, second change, .32-20, built 1902 or '03.

M-1912 Steyr-Hahn service pistol, lately re-furbed but stamped 1913.

M-1895 Mannlicher Straight-pull carbine, re-furbed/chambered to 8 x 56R by the Nazi's, but originally built in Budapest in 1899, I think.

S&W 1917 .45 ACP, all kit-bashed from a bunch of parts. Frame built in 1930.

Colt New Service 1917 revolver, 1924.

Colt Police Positive Special, .38 Special, 1921.

Colt 1903 Pocket auto .32 ACP, 1919.

Shansei .45 ACP Broomhandle Mauser, 1929.

'Bolo' Broomhandle Mauser .30 cal., mid-Thirties I believe.

Two Remington M-81 Woodsmaster self-loading rifles, one .300 Savage, one .35 Remington. Unsure of the actual construction dates, but definitely pre-war.

Monkey-Wards "Hercules" 12-guage single-shot shotgun. Mid twenties, near as I can figure.

The Secret Service Special, the 'wishes-it-were-a-Smith' 5-shot top-break .38 S&W, built in the early twenties by Iver Johnson, which is joined by it's contemporary, a Meriden Firearms 5-shot .32 DAO and a TINY little Iver Johnson 5-shot .32.

Everything else is during- or post-war. The Enfield is the youngest on the list. I mighta left some out, too.

BTW, they're all shooters, except the Parker. I try not to get wallhangers. ;) Picking a favorite is impossible, as old guns are a definite theme in my collection. I like 'em all about equally for a raft of different reasons.

August 20, 2003, 05:37 PM
Colt .32 ACP pocket model manufactured in 1907.
Came with 8 Peters cartridges and an H.H. Heiser holster!

Ed Straker
August 20, 2003, 06:04 PM
Winchester model 1911 12 Gauge, and Bridge Gun Company 'Black Prince' .410 single shot. Both belonged to my dad, and his dad.
Purchased by me are a Smith Military & Police from 1952, and a Smith 1917 from Brazil, made in 1937, I think.

August 20, 2003, 06:27 PM
I Bought a Marlin Safety 1889 44/40 Rifle Half Octagan Barrel about 99% in a Auction in Tn. about 3 years ago The gun was made in 1890 and will still with open sights hold a 1 1/2 " group at 100 yards with factory ammo off a bench

August 20, 2003, 06:34 PM
I have a Winchester mod 94 30-30 that my Grandfather bought as a teen sometime before 1930.

August 20, 2003, 06:49 PM
I have my Dad's old Stevens 87A .22 semi-auto rifle.
He got it used when he was a kid.
It was made sometime back, a couple of years either way of 1920.

August 20, 2003, 06:53 PM
I bought a 1943 91/30 Mosin-Nagant a couple of weeks ago so it's my oldest now.

cma g21
August 20, 2003, 07:02 PM
Mauser C96 (Broomhandle Mauser) made in 1902.

Bullet Bob
August 20, 2003, 07:15 PM
1921 Swedish Mauser - bought it at a Roses department store right before they folded for $73.00, including a box of ammo. Appears unfired (before I bought it), very accurate.

Dave Markowitz
August 20, 2003, 08:26 PM
This un:


It's a Colt New Service in .44 WCF, made in 1908.

August 20, 2003, 08:55 PM
Another old Marlin
1893 38-55
shipped from factory in 1894

August 20, 2003, 09:04 PM
Colt 1917 45acp government model


August 20, 2003, 09:13 PM
S&W Model 1 made sometime before 1880!

Byron Quick
August 20, 2003, 09:17 PM
Remington .44RF derringer from my great grandfather.

Springfield 1903 MkI stamped 1918 95%+

Brian Williams
August 20, 2003, 09:43 PM
1952 Sistema 1911

Oldest style 1851 navy clone.

August 20, 2003, 10:36 PM
1957 Remington 870, 12ga Wingmaster shotgun.

I got this shotgun in original beat up condition to turn into a more modern "tactical" or "social shotgun". The gun now has ghost ring sights, a Surefire forend light and a full length pistol grip stock. Plus its been re finished.

Over all its a great gun. But then I'm very partial to 870's.


cracked butt
August 20, 2003, 10:44 PM
1899 M96 Oberndorf mauser that several people must have taken extra TLC of over the years.

August 20, 2003, 11:01 PM
1878 springfield .45-70 trapdoor. Never been fired. Unfortunately my dad dropped it years ago and the stock cracked, but it was professionally repaired.

August 21, 2003, 09:40 AM
My Yugo M48A was made in the early fifties ('51?) which makes it more than twice as old as me.

All the rest of my guns (except my SKS) are new commercial manufacture

August 21, 2003, 10:23 AM
My grandfathers Winchester Model 12 in 20 guage built back in 1928. This was his "deer slayer" rifle when he was growing up, then it was given to my uncle and was finally passed to me this Christmas. A true treasure in my opinion. It loves to kill clay pigeons!
The gun is in about 85%-90% condition. Medal has a nice petina and the wood is in awsome shape

August 21, 2003, 10:50 AM
My very first gun I ever bought. I bought a Mossberg 500S the day I turned 18. It was made in 1987. I could never let my first gun go.

August 21, 2003, 10:54 AM
My Grand fathers single shot 12ga. The only thing I can find on the gun is the faded word "IDEAL". I was about 9 when he passed away at 90 and I have been told he had the gun since he was young, So it has to be close to a Hundred years old or close too it.

August 21, 2003, 10:59 AM
I have a walther ppk stamped with a N and a crown over the N. Which I'll believe says that it was made pre-war 1941. Not for sure.

August 21, 2003, 11:27 AM
M44 from 1945...Izhevesk armory, possibly exported to Turkey(?) Bought it for one reason: Enemy at the Gates :D

Silent Bob
August 21, 2003, 11:32 AM
My oldest would be a Remington Model 1917 30.06 rifle made in, surprise! 1917. Second oldest is a Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS rifle, made in either the late '50s or early '60s, I assume.

AZ Jeff
August 21, 2003, 12:19 PM
Oldest handgun: Mauser Model 1910, in .25ACP, made in 1911. Taken off a German officer in WW1.

Oldest longgun: Prewar Walther .22 target rifle ("Meisterbusche" model, I believe is it's title) made about 1937.

The Mauser is basically retired, due to fear of breaking the various custom fitted leaf springs in the design. The Walther gets shot all the time, and is UNBELEIVABLY accurate with it's 26" barrel.

August 21, 2003, 12:40 PM
I also own a Mauser 1910 in .32 It was made in the 1916.
Wolff Springs company has a whole spring kit for the 1910 model.
Mine still shoots like a champion.

I also own a Walther M-4 in .32 it was made about the same time.
It needs a new slide. It sits pretty much in the safe as a relic.

It's amazing that once they were the cutting edge of firearms technology.

By the way Hello all My name is Restlessgun. I got tired of lurking so here I am!

August 21, 2003, 12:46 PM
Oldest pistol is a model 1917 S&W 45 acp. One of the Brazilian contract guns. Made in the '30s.

Oldest rifle is a Springfield single shot 22. My dad bought it new in 1929.

August 21, 2003, 01:52 PM
Original Colt 1860 Army found by my grandfather on a old plantation that was in Maryland. It's non-functional though.
Still functioning is my 1907 M96 Carl Gustav Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55. I would put that rifle up against most any hunting rifle today for accuracy.

August 21, 2003, 02:06 PM
My oldest is also my first, an SMLE made in 1917.

August 21, 2003, 02:30 PM
German Commission Model 1888, manufactured in 1890 in Amberg, Germany.

August 21, 2003, 03:34 PM
Oldest gun that I have is my GGGrandfathers double-barreled shotgun (mid to late 1800's I believe). Story goes that GGrandpaw stopped w/ his family in a covered wagon (moving to Oklahoma) to shoot a pheasant for dinner. Gun was in the back of the wagon w/ the gun barrel pointing to the rear... when he pulled on the barrel to get the gun out, the hammers caught on bedding and the gun discharged -- killing him on the spot.

August 21, 2003, 07:09 PM
Finnish M39 Mosin-Nagant (7.62x54), receiver dated 1905. Made in Ivshevsk (sp?). Might have already been in Finland when the Finns broke away in 1918, since it still has the old Czarist two-headed eagle proof mark. (I think, but am not sure, that most czarist-era weapons in Russia were restamped with Soviet markings later.)

Rebarreled in 1942 at the VKT arsenal in Finland, and looks like it saw lots of action afterward (stock really beat up). Bore looks brand-new, though--whoever it was issued to took very good care of it. (I suspect he was the one that carved "E. T." in the rear sight base; I wish I knew his full name.)

Still shoots into 1 3/8" at 100 yards with Wolf 148-gr FMJ.

August 21, 2003, 07:24 PM
41 Colt Thunderer left the factory in August of 1902. I have a "letter of authenticity" from Colt.

Jim Hall

Chris Rhines
August 21, 2003, 07:41 PM
There's an original Colt-manufacture 1911 in the basement somewhere, came off the line in 1914. I think that's the oldest.

- Chris.

kentucky bucky
August 21, 2003, 09:06 PM
I've got 2 muzzleloader rifles from the Civil War period, But the oldest one with a date is a 1870 Snider Enfield Carbine. :D

August 21, 2003, 09:33 PM
Ranger 20 gau double barrel shotgun. The serial # is stamped into every metal and wooden part of the gun; the barrel is stamped, the forestock is stamped and the metal inlay that afixes the forestock to the barrel is stamped as is the stock. Patent says c2.1915 stamped into the side of the barrel above the trigger mechanism. According to my dad, he bought it at Sears and Roebuck when he was a lad, probably in the late 20's or early 30's. (he died at 92 yrs in 1999) He also said it was the first shotgun Sears sold without hammers and a Damascus barrel. I also have a Remington .22 short,long and long rifle, bolt action, tube feed. ser # is 5 digits, no model name. Has a Lyman 55R peep sight. Dad said he bought this about the same time give or take a couple years.


PS: Someone ought to cut and paste this post over to MMM or HCI or Du or someother antiAmerican web site. We got our history ask them to show us theirs.:neener:

August 21, 2003, 09:55 PM
Got a Springfield Armory 30-40 Krag-Jorgenson battle rifle model 1898. I believe its date of manufacture was 1899. My grandfather bought it when he was a young man about 70 years ago.

Got the slickest action on any gun Iv'e ever owned and shoots superbly.

August 21, 2003, 10:04 PM
Oldest to yougest

E Robinson Model 1863 rifled musket in 58 cal
Next oldest is a Springfield 1873 Trapdoor, 45-70 with an 1886 cartouche on it.
Next is a Winchester 1897 12 ga E Model, made in 1913
Mauser 98K prolly from the 40's/50's
Yugo 59/66A1
H&K G3 in 1983
All other 15 odd pistols and long guns are 1985 or youger

4v50 Gary
August 21, 2003, 10:05 PM
Infantry model Trapdoor Springfield. Barrel was shortened 4" and the stock "sporterized." It shot well with factory ammo. History unknown.

August 21, 2003, 10:14 PM
My oldest firearm is a very nice S&W Model 19 with 4" barrel. It was manufactured in 1969...same year as me!

August 22, 2003, 02:07 AM
Colt 1903 - built in 1913.


August 22, 2003, 07:20 AM
1866 Springfield Trapdoor 50/70. Actually, the gun is a 1864 that went thru the Second Allin Conversion in 1866. Looks and shoots great.

February 12, 2004, 10:59 PM
I have a 12 Ga. side-by-side that is at least 63 years old. I recently received it from my Aunt on my Father's side. It used to be my Grandfather's. It shoots fine, but it needs some work on the surface of the barrels due to neglect and rust, pits, etc. The stock is quite scarred too, but solid.

I'm not sure if I'm going to try to treat the surface of the barrels and re-blue it or if I'm going to take it to a gunsmith. Same for sanding and re-finishing the stock.

Anyone know of a good, trustworthy gunsmith in the SE Michigan area?

Iron Mike
February 12, 2004, 11:22 PM
A colt 1903 built in 1912. There is an old gun shop in our area that sells a lot off old guns on consignment they have some interesting stuff.

4v50 Gary
February 12, 2004, 11:34 PM
Trap door Springfield. The bbl has been shortened and the stock trimmed. Oh well. Shoots great though.

February 13, 2004, 12:03 AM
1963 Baby Browning

Hi-Res (http://www.imageseek.com/sven/baby_browning/cocked.jpg)

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http://www.imageseek.com/sven/baby_browning/muzzle_.jpgHi-Res (http://www.imageseek.com/sven/baby_browning/muzzle.jpg)

Hi-Res (http://www.imageseek.com/sven/baby_browning/rear.jpg)

Hi-Res (http://www.imageseek.com/sven/baby_browning/wallet.jpg)

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February 13, 2004, 12:09 AM
Oldest pistol, my just aquired .32 Savage-DOM=1910 94%+

I traded my Kel-Tec P.32 and $50 for it, pawn shop aquired it in an estate auction. I went through her and am happy to say she's going to the range tomorrow:D

Also a H&R .32 mag Guardsman weelie DOM=1969 I think, someone gave me a big TV and I traded it to a friend for a smaller TV and the H&R, accurate shooter but a pain in the butt to load.

February 13, 2004, 12:13 AM
I have a 1937 vintage Colt Official Police, 38 special. I too have an OP that I was told dated to 1937. Ser# is 6106xx It is marked on the back strap; D.D.C.CO 6. It's a 5" Bbl and at some point was expertly re-blued.

The OLDEST gun I have is a French 1777 .69 cal. musket. It was converted to percussion and then brought to the US, or CS rather, by Caleb Huse. It is all there and the bore is still shiny. I shoot it with a .672" round ball and 110grns of Fg black powder. Or, one round ball and 3 .310 buckshot off the same charge.

Then there is the 71/84 11mm Mauser dated 1888, then a couple of 1909 dated Lee Enfields.

Beetle Bailey
February 13, 2004, 12:17 AM
I don't know if this is cheating or not, but to me, my oldest rifle is my Finnish Mosin Nagant M39. It's a VKT marked 1944 but it is built on a 1894 Chatellerault receiver! The Chatellerault Weapons Factory in Chatellerault, France made the very first Mosin Nagants under contract for the Russian empire. The original M91 rifle could have seen action in WWI, the Russian Revolution, the 1939 Winter War between Russia and Finland, and the Continuation War between Russia and Finland that ended in 1944. Most likely, at some point the original rifle was captured or otherwise acquired by the Finns and rebuilt as my M39. I wonder how many battles and how many hands that rifle has been in over the years before I got it. . .:cool:

Or it's my Swedish Mauser M38 made in 1941 at Husqvarna. No war history that I know of, but a great example of what quality craftsmanship and attention to detail the Swedes were capable of.

February 13, 2004, 12:21 AM
Recently added my oldest handgun: a S&W .38 Safety Hammerless 4th Model, circa 1899.

It shoots pretty nice, actually. :cool:

February 13, 2004, 12:21 AM
That would be a Stevens Favorite - 22LR. Left in a house I bought. I tried to give it back to the prior owner but she said she didn't want it. :rolleyes: It belonged to her grandfather.

February 13, 2004, 09:49 AM
The oldest is a Star Model B made in 1945, originally made by Star for shipment to Nazi Germany. The war ended before it was shipped. Was later used by German state police.

February 13, 2004, 09:57 AM
I was left an 1855 Colt side hammer revolver in .28 cal. Commonly known as the "Root Revolver" as a man named Root invented it and Colt marketed it. They were made from 1855 to 1870. I haven't traced the SN through Colt to see exactly when mine was made. It is in fair condition. Nickel finish with some flaws. However, it came in the original walnut (dovetail joint and all) box with bullet mold and powder horn. I will never shoot it. Neat thing to have however.

February 13, 2004, 10:05 AM
Oldest rifle is a 1943 VZ-24 and a K-31 from 1943.

Oldest non-MilSurp rifle is a 1963 Marlin 336.

Oldest handgun in a 1973 Single Six.

I seem to have a thing for ending up with guns from years ending with a 3. At one point, I had four MilSurp rifles from 1943 and one from 1953. All completely accidentally.

February 13, 2004, 11:18 AM
My oldest bang-stick is a sweet Swede M96, manufactured in the year of our Lord 1910. :) :cool:

Bill Hook
February 13, 2004, 11:47 AM
Swedish M96 made 1900.

February 13, 2004, 11:50 AM
1936 8mm Mauser my grandfather 'aquired' and mailed to himself in one of the wars, can't remember which though or where he got it, and he can't tell me now. :/


February 13, 2004, 11:54 AM
I have a Joseph Manton, double bbl. percussion muzzle loading shotgun, 20 gauge, most likely converted from a flintlock, or else made during an early transition period - somewhere between 1825-1840

February 13, 2004, 12:37 PM
My 1891 Finnish Nagant built on another 1894 receiver. The barrel is dated 1942. I had no idea how old it was until I took it out of the stock.

I have an Iver Johnson pocket .32 that the seller said dated from the 1890's, but I have no idea how to check that.

The oldest heirloom gun is a Japanese 6.5 Arisaka that my grandfather carried in India and China during WW2.

Series 70
February 13, 2004, 01:53 PM
My uncle served in the pacific during WWII, including six months in occupied Japan. At one point he went to a warehouse of captured weapons and picked out a .32 FN 1900 (JMB's Brevet design) and holster. His C.O. signed a letter authorizing him to take it home.

My uncle moved to an assisted living place last year and passed it along to me. I have the pistol, holster, one mag, the letter from his C.O. and another letter either authenticating the source of the piece or authorizing its passage home.

It's in pretty good shape for having sat in a drawer for 55 years. I don't plan on firing it. It was made in either 1902 or 1903.

February 13, 2004, 02:13 PM
I have an original Winchester "Winder Musket"- a version of the M1885 Hi-wall in 22.l.r. and a 6' barreled Colt "Army Special"- Circa 1907(?).

These were left to me by my Dad. I know the Winchester was used when my Grandad bought if for my Dad in 1915.
Wouldn't sell either one.

February 13, 2004, 02:24 PM
I have a Savage Sporter 22Lr made in 1915. It was my Great Grandfathers. A very accurate rifle, the only problem is the mag spring is getting a litte weak.

February 13, 2004, 02:27 PM
I have one of the first 10,000 Browning Auto-5's.. Made in Belgium around 1903-1905.. SN 4XXX..

February 13, 2004, 03:20 PM
You know you have Alzheimers when you answer the same question thread twice as I did on this one. At least I said the same thing in both posts. Please close this so I don't have to embarass myself again!

Vern Humphrey
February 13, 2004, 03:28 PM
Berks County Pennsylvania Rifle, orginally a flintlock but converted to percussion -- about 1840.

Colt Model 1849 revolver.

Dollar Bill
February 13, 2004, 03:31 PM
An interesting thread and I just skimmed over several pages of it. I find it interesting as to what some people consider "old". there are a few really, truly old guns listed here though.

As for me, my oldest gun is an 1873 Winchester lever rifle, OBFMCB, in .38 WCF caliber (.38-40). According to the serial number my rifle was actually made in 1899. I bought the rifle in 1991 just to satisfy my love for things from the old west period of American history. The Winchester '73 along with the Colt Peacemaker were truly the "guns that won the west". I also have a couple of old SxS hammer shotguns which belonged to my Grandfathers but I think they date from around 1910.

February 13, 2004, 03:36 PM
1922 Winchester Model 12.

My grandfather used it for about 30 years, then gave it to my father. He used it for about 35 years, until he passed away. Personally, I'm planning on using it for somewhat longer, but one of my boys will get it when I'm done.

FWIW, I've used the M12 a bunch over the past few years and taken a lot of pheasants with it. It may be old, but it's still a workhorse.

February 13, 2004, 03:53 PM
1945 Mosin-Nagant M44. Everything else is Brand spankin new, as in made in 2003-2004. :)


February 13, 2004, 05:47 PM

You know you have Alzheimers when you answer the same question thread twice as I did on this one. At least I said the same thing in both posts. Please close this so I don't have to embarass myself again!

Sorry, when I originally posted to this thread yesterday (Feb. 12, 2004) I had not realized that the last previous post before mine was from August of 2003. Oh well, everyone has added a lot of interesting items to the list of old firearms, so it can't be a bad thing.

February 13, 2004, 06:31 PM
Oldest one I own: 1917 .45acp Colt New Service army, made in 1917.

Oldest on I hope to own someday. GGGGrandpa Collins Rifle. It's a .24ish caliber kentucky squirrel rifle that is nearly 200 years old. It was origianlly a flintlock made in the 1820's by a blacksmith, the lock was English. Some time in the 1860's it was converted to percussion caps. It was fired for the last time somewhere back in the 1930's. My dad used to clean and oil this relic regularly. It's 4 feet long, weighs a ton and isn't worth much financially, say $100 for the rifle and $100 for the horn, bullet block and starter. My dad left home in the early 60's for the Air Force , and he said at that time it was still shootable. It seems 30+ years in a damp closet took their toll. All the iron fittings are rusty (read more than a patina) and the stock is starting to dry out. One of the odd things about this rifle is an aproximate .22 cal bullet hole running down the right side of the stock. If someone was holding this rifle when that happened he certainly got shot! I've often wondered if that was a ricochet or if this old relic saw "action" of some sort, ie a feud, or was pressed into service. The rifle hails from Hatfield Bottom, over the hill from Matewan in Mingo County, WVA. Back in 1820 that was wild country. It was still wild in 1920.

I'm hoping to find someone at the Colorado History Museum that will help me clean/stabilize the decay on this old family heirloom. It's a hell of a wall-hanger.

Someday I might have a replica made of it.

February 14, 2004, 09:57 PM
I have a 1870 Springfield 50-70 that may be unfired; also a Remington Hepburn in .40 x1-7/8" Sharps bottleneck, and a Winchester HiWall in 38-55 w/loading tool & bullet mold.
Nice guns all.

February 14, 2004, 11:16 PM
Vector Uzi. Receiver was stamped back in '86 right before the ban.

I would have an Arisaka my grandfather brought back at the end of WWII, but my uncle got it. :(

February 15, 2004, 11:19 AM
But here's a few:

Remington Rolling Block, 1868 Egyptian contract, rebuilt into a .45-70 Long Range Creedmoor

Steyr-Mannlicher Dutch Cavalry Carbine in 6.5x53R, 1895

U.S. Model 1898 Krag in .30 U.S. Army (.30-40 Krag), 1898

Oberndorf M96 Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55, 1899

Remington Model 8 in .32 Remington, 1906

Carl Gustaf M96 Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55, 1907

Steyr-Hahn M1911 in 9mm Steyr, 1912

Schmidt-Rubin M1911 in 7.5x55 Swiss, 1912

Remington Model 11 in 12 gauge, 1914

Then the really modern stuff starts showing up in the list, and my hands would go numb typing. ;)

February 15, 2004, 12:03 PM
(Our) not mine, is a Eastern Arms model of 1929 single shot 20 ga shotgun. It put them H&R/NEF's to shame...

February 15, 2004, 12:27 PM
I thought for sure I had already responded to this thread, but it appears that I haven't.

My oldest gun is a 1916 Luger, brought home by my grandfather from WWII. I have replaced the grip panels because the orignals were long gone, and it was wearing an ill-fitting pair of 1950's era white plastic. (yeech!). Also replaced the mainspring, because it was out of a P38, and was a bit long and would bind. And, replaced the trigger return spring because it too was missing. I've put about 60 rounds through it to make sure it still works, it does!


February 15, 2004, 12:31 PM
I have a civil war era 69 caliber muzzle loader. Unknown manufacturer or date on it. Few stamps on the bbl or lock. The gun was handed down to me by my father two years ago.

I would appreciate any info on how I could find out more about this gun if anyone has any ideas.

kentucky bucky
February 15, 2004, 12:32 PM
My oldest gun is a toss up between two muzzleloaders. one is an 1850's-60's era sporting rifle in .38 and the other is an old Tennessee Rifle in .54 that very well may be older. It is rough as a cobb, but has tremendous character! My dad bought it for me when I was 13 from an old widow in my home town. It was her grandfather's and she was in her eighties when we bought it in 1970. It came with all of the goodies, horn, measures, moulds, etc. My oldest cartridge gun is a 1870 .577 Snider Enfield carbine. It was given to me by my friend in Newcastle upon Tyne, England in 1992 when I went to visit him. I didn't want to take it , but he convinced me that he had two of them and had no use for either. He did say that I had to research the obsolete ammo and if I could make some, he wanted to shoot it if he ever visited me. He did come over a few years later and shot the gun for the first time in his life!

PS...Does anyone have an original flintlock Kentucky rifle that they have no use for? I'll be glad to take it off of your hands....and pay shipping too!;)

February 15, 2004, 05:23 PM
High Standard Model B. 1943 manufacture. My gunsmith says it's 98%.

Really, "wall hangers" are a waste on me. If I can't shoot it, why have it. Unless it is an original single action used by Tilton or somebody of notoriety, I'm gonna to bang it. But then I've never had a gun that was considered rare.

rust collector
February 15, 2004, 05:43 PM
My oldest shooter is a 1906 M-96 Carl Gustav mauser. Dad has a Colt Navy percussion revolver (the streamlined one, maybe 1861 model, that came from an uncle who was a horse trader back in territorial days. I suspect horse trader may be a euphemism for no-goodnik.

I also have a Steyr M-95, but not sure of the date of manufacture. Fascinating to think what these guns may have been through.

February 15, 2004, 05:53 PM
Or is it the "other" Stery M-95, the straight-pull 8mm?


February 15, 2004, 06:18 PM
I agree with you on the wall hangers. I like to SHOOT my guns. Now if it was a wall hanger that was solidly linked to a certain person or event, then that's different. For example, a non-functioning 1871 Mauser that was documented to have been used by the Irish Volunteers in 1916. A fully functional 1871 would be better though, and I even have the brass for 11mm Mauser. :D

John G
February 15, 2004, 06:27 PM
Browning model 1900 .32cal pistol. With the original "pistol image" on the grips.

February 15, 2004, 06:49 PM
I have an 1873 45-70 Springfield Trapdoor, that was made in 1884 and the rifle serial number that is two numbers away was issued to the 3rd Nebraska Infantry for the Spanish-American war sooo who knows.

February 15, 2004, 06:53 PM
I have a 1932 vintage S&W Outdoorsman inherited from my Dad. He bought it new from a brand-new shop in LA, gent named Pachmayer...:D


February 15, 2004, 08:05 PM
Old guns?

I have a .32 rimfire Remington Elliot (4 bbl derringer) dated 1860 and an Allen & Wheelock revolver also dated (July) 1860.

I also have have a small precussion gun that you guys where helping me try and date over in this (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42173) thread, which could be older or younger than the other two depending!

February 19, 2004, 07:19 PM
I'm not much into "older" guns as much as I am into old styles of firearms. I think the oldest weapons I own date back to WW2.

February 19, 2004, 09:28 PM
A Swiss K31 dated back to 1933 via serial number its still a pup.

February 21, 2004, 01:32 AM
A Colt M1911A1 made in 1944. In pretty good shape. All original parts.

Erik Jensen
December 22, 2004, 07:23 PM
on Monday I bought what is now my oldest rifle. a Steyr M1895 marked "Steyr 1904". all numbers match, it appears to have all the right stock cartouches,, the bore looks good, and it's beautiful. ;)

hopefully I'll be able to get out to shoot it tomorrow.

December 22, 2004, 07:39 PM
I have a Remington 11 that I think is right around 1920.

Vern Humphrey
December 22, 2004, 07:41 PM
I have a Colt Model 1849 revolver, a Berks County Pennsylvania rifle made around 1840, and a Stevens Favorite made in the 1890s.

December 22, 2004, 07:42 PM
1800's British musket possibly from Indian service.

Mom picked it up at a GARAGE SALE IN LONDON ENGLAND!!!!! Two of them!


Both in good condition.

December 22, 2004, 07:45 PM
S&W k22:1947

December 22, 2004, 08:01 PM
1922 - Winchester Model 12

Currently on its third generation within my family. It's still in great shape and I use it to kill a few pheasants every year.

BTW, the other gun I hunt with most of the time is a 1926-vintage Winchester Model 12. Rougher finish, and beat-up wood... so I don't mind if it gets dinged as much as the other one.

I figure after roughly 80 years, they're just about broken in right.


December 22, 2004, 08:04 PM
1928 Colt Detective Special

December 22, 2004, 08:07 PM
Winchester Model 1873, made in 1886.

December 22, 2004, 08:17 PM
Winchester Mod 20 .410 singleshot.As far as I can tell it was made in the mid 30s, 1934, IIRC. Left behind by my grandfather when my mother was 16. Given to me by my grandmother earlier this year, about 5 months before she passed on as well.
This one means a lot to me, and I have not even shot it yet. This is the ONLY gun that I will absolutely never get rid of.

December 22, 2004, 08:43 PM
Savage Model 1895 Carbine .303 Savage, Manufacture date of Aug 7, 1897 This is the predecessor to the Model 99

Springfield Trapdoor US Model 1873 Cal 45-70

Acme Arms (Belgium) 12 Gauge Double barrel dated 1898 (one of the first laminated steel Barrels)

George S.
December 22, 2004, 09:21 PM
My oldest rifle is a 1931 Mosin 91/30 followed by my M1 dated from April, 1941, then a 1943 1903A3 and then my first gun, a J.C. Higgins .22 single shot rifle from about 1962.

My oldest pistol is a 1960 or so S&W Model 14 I just bought, folowed by my 1978 Ruger Single Six.

Everything else is pretty contemporary.

December 22, 2004, 09:34 PM
Oy, I didn't want to page through 8 pages to see if I had posted already on this. (thread started in 2003)

I have a Ranger 20 gauge shotgun that was sold to my dad in the 20's. Pat. 4-20-1915, Ser #36533. He bought it at Sears. I killed my first pheasant, rabbit, partridge and deer with than'n. I think I remember shooting a carp with it too.

C. H. Luke
December 22, 2004, 09:40 PM
Sharps Carbine. Missing some parts but it's the real deal.

Don't know its history.....

December 22, 2004, 09:43 PM
I have a Remington double barrel 12 gauge hammer gun that belonged to my great-grandfather. My grandmother gave it to me when I was twelve. I believe it is a Model 1884 or 1886. Something close to that at any rate. I know he bought it before the turn of the century.

R.H. Lee
December 22, 2004, 10:07 PM
This one. I don't even know what it is.

Guy L Johnson
December 22, 2004, 10:32 PM
1898 Krag

1939 Mauser (Spandau)

1933 Remington Bolt action 22

1944 Nagant

An old Daisy 22 bolt action, probably from the 60's (Has adjustable plastic stock)

a lot of relics in my cabinet most of my guns are 20+ years old, but if i leave them alone in the dark they seem to multiply (like 22's)

December 23, 2004, 12:00 AM
Grampster... a CARP?!?!? Something tells me there's a story there...

December 23, 2004, 01:19 AM
MN 91/30 dated 1942. Ahhhhhh behold the power of history.

December 23, 2004, 01:52 AM
Model 93 Spanish Mauser, made 1914.
Followed by Enfield No2 Mk1 1940.
No antiques yet.

December 23, 2004, 01:59 AM
I have part of my grandfather's guns. There is an old nickel plated Harrington and Richardson in .38 Short (circa 1894, an old top break revolver), an old Hopkins and Allen 12 gauge shotgun that I know is at least a 100 years old, a Smith&Wesson I Model in .32 long that is marked NYPD (circa 1930s) and also some old Steven single shotguns all in 12 gauge which all have heavily pitted bores probably about seventy years old.
I keep them around for sentimental reasons more than anything. The old 12 gauges were used to death.

December 23, 2004, 08:49 AM
My oldest is an inherited 1884 Trapdoor Springfield rifle.

The oldest I've bought myself is a circa 1956 Ruger Blackhawk.

December 23, 2004, 09:42 AM
Posted by me a little over a year and a half ago:
Short lever Martini-Henry in .577-450. Actual age unknown, probably 1870s-80s, purchased at gun show.

Schmidt Rubin M96/11. Pre-1910, purchased from local collector.

M1896/38 Swedish Mauser. Dated 1900, bought from friend.

Since then, I've dated the Martini to '82, and picked up a few other war pensioners.

A Swiss Vetterli M69/71. Probably very early 1870's.

A C.G. Haenel-built Mauser Kar.71, dated 1877.

A French Mle. 1874 M80 Gras rifle, dated 1876.

So, pending discovery of an actual born-on date for the Vetterli, the Gras is my oldest firearm.

Donations of 11mm Mauser, 11mm Gras, and .41 Swiss Rimfire cheerfully accepted. :D

December 23, 2004, 10:02 AM
Find it hard to believe that I missed this one the first time around.

Oldest: S&W .32 Safety Hammerless - 1909 or thereabouts.

Next: S&W 1917 US Service Model in .45ACP - about 1918

December 23, 2004, 10:05 AM
1873 .45-70 Trapdoor Springfield inherited from my grandfather. His last name was Canary, a relative of Martha Jane aka "Calamity" so who knows what the history of this rifle might be. I bought brass, bulletts, and dies for it when I acquired it, and it will print a 6" group at 150 yds...offhand. It's in great shape...grandpa kept it wrapped in a sheet slathered with grease inside a wooden box.

Mossburg .410 bolt action 3 shot shotgun mfg'd sometime in the 1930's passed down from the other grandfather.

Mossburg .22 bolt action rifle, 7 rd magazine w/micrometer peep sight and hooded ramp front with 3 different front sights that swing up into position. Originally a training rifle in WWII I'm told. I bought it when I was 11 and used it as a target rifle when I belonged to a Woodmen of the World indoor shooting club. The original stock was cracked so I replaced it with a Fajen when I was in HS.

98 Mauser mfg'd in 1944, never issued. All 4 #'s match, plus a few Cyrilic characters added to the receiver. Shoots great. I have low priority plans to sporterize it into an 8mm-06 someday.

Rich K
December 23, 2004, 10:08 AM
1898 Krag in 30-40.Great little gun,fun to shoot.

December 23, 2004, 10:18 AM
"Mossburg .22 bolt action rifle, 7 rd magazine w/micrometer peep sight and hooded ramp front with 3 different front sights that swing up into position."

What is the model number on the barrel of your rifle? I have a very small collection of Mossberg bolt-action rifles and they are very nice. It includes a Model 44US which was one of the primary .22 training rifles used by the military in WWII and after.

If you ever need parts, Vic and Cheryl Havlin usually have the best collection of parts and pieces.


December 23, 2004, 10:18 AM
1906 Model 1896 Swedish Mauser, my first milsurp purchase. Great lines and extremely well made. Cost: $110.

December 23, 2004, 10:37 AM
That would be my...

COLT M1908 in .380acp from 1927
FN HI Power in 9mm from 1935 ( 1st year of manufacture )
Walther P-38 in 9mm from 1938 ( 1st year of manufacture )
Springfield M1 Garand in 30.06 from 1944
Marlin Model 80 Bolt Action in .22 s, l, lr from 1960


December 23, 2004, 11:06 AM
Older firearms I own:

1915 Colt New Service Canadian Issue .455Eley converted to .45Colt
1918 Enfield No1 MkIII* - BSA
1923 Colt Hammerless .380 - wife's grandfathers service pistol
1932 Winchester 1897 takedown
1937 S&W Brazil Contract .45ACP
1940 Stevens 620A Riot gun - California Civil Defense shotgun
1942 Enfield No1 MkIII* - Lithgow
1942 Springfield M1 Garand
1942 Enfield No2 Mk1 .38S&W DAO - gift from the wife of a friend who died
1944 Enfield No4 MkI - Longbranch
1946 S&W M&P 2"
1950 Remington 870 Wingmaster
1958 S&W M28 4"
1959 Beretta M70 Puma .32ACP - wife's grandfathers CCW piece

December 24, 2004, 08:07 AM

1899 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant M91 Finnish 'SA' marked. And it shoots just fine. :)

December 24, 2004, 09:23 AM
My oldest is a Field Grade Winchester Model 1912 12ga made in 1914.

December 24, 2004, 10:10 AM
It's a toss up between a Golcher ML Shotgun.. Circa 1830's
or a Allen & Thurber 31 cal pepper box.

A little newer

Model 94 Winchester rifle used in the Cattle/sheep wars in Wyoming..
Owner left the state in a hurry and never talked much about why...

Colt's .41 Thunderer owned by the last train robber in Wyoming.. Bill Carlisle.

I played cards with him..

December 24, 2004, 12:56 PM
Oh man... Iggy, you willing to adopt a 32 year-old son? :D

That is WAY too cool... not only old pieces, but the history behind them...

December 24, 2004, 04:49 PM
I have a 1884 Trapdoor Springfield rifle that is a great shooter with 11 gr of Unique and soft cast Lee HB 405 gr lead bullets. Its best 5 shot group is 0.9" at 100 yards.

My second oldest is a 1918 1903 Springfield rifle that I got from the CMP. It will shoot 1.5 MOA repeatedly.


December 24, 2004, 04:55 PM
The oldest working gun I own is a Colt Python from 1970.

My oldest non-working guns are a 1905 Colt Police Positive and a turn of the century Hopkins and Allen single barrel 12ga shotgun.

December 24, 2004, 05:02 PM
Can't believe that I haven'r found this thread until now.

Oldest known is a 1915 Swede Mauser.

Possible challengers are a T38 Arisaka (probably late teens or early twenties), and an M95 (bought last night, have no idea when it was made)

December 24, 2004, 10:14 PM
I have a S&W .38spl snubbie from the 50's. I also have a winchester .308 from "61

December 25, 2004, 02:32 AM
1895 Nagant made in 1906

Colt OP made in 1927/28

Smith and Wesson M&P 1905, 4th change made in the late 1920s

Smith and Wesson 1917 made in 1918

All shoot well, especially the Colt.

December 25, 2004, 02:32 AM
1944 M38.

December 25, 2004, 02:52 AM
serial number search done on it dates back to1933.

December 25, 2004, 02:59 AM
Oldest I've shot was a 71/84 mauser with CIL soft smokeless powder loads. Dad must have traded it while I was away at college.

December 25, 2004, 03:59 AM
Well, my two oldest were handed down from my great grandfather and this xmas, wound up in my possesion.

The first is a Springfield Armory model 1899 Carbine (.30-40Krag). My great grandfather carried this in his service with the US army. My grandfather recieved this as a gift for his first deer hunt. He used this as his deer rifle for many years. He put a new stock on after the old one finally cracked. This rifle was inherited by my father when my grandfather passed. My dad never really shoots anymore, so this has been in a cabinet for the past few years. This one was made in 1902.

The next is a Colt Model DA-38 (.38 Long Colt). My great grandfather purchased this when he lived in Arizona. Never saw any military service (I think) This one went to my grandfather who used it as a range gun. He fitted new walnut grips to it to replace the original Colt grips (I still got em)
This also went to my dad upon my grandfathers death. It too has been keeping the Krag company. The patent dates on this one start at 1894. I'm unsure of actual manufacture dates.

I was ecstatic to recieve such a collection (there are more) for crimmas.

The other gun I got from my dad was the Marlin Model 39 I now hold in my hands. This gun was my grandfathers and was the one he taught my dad to shoot with. Still goes bang every time.

Lots of family history in that cabinet. :)

December 25, 2004, 04:47 AM
Winchester model 12 made in 1924

December 25, 2004, 09:08 AM
S&W 3rd model top break, double action, .38S&W ~1884


December 25, 2004, 12:22 PM
It has to be my grandfather’s Stevens 1915 Favorite in .25 RF(circa 1920). It’s probably non-functional, though I’ve never tried to shoot it. It’s also probably the last gun I’d ever let go.

December 25, 2004, 04:17 PM
A 1941, 91/30 Vkt

December 25, 2004, 06:00 PM
Not that old being a Winchester Model 1897 & was used by guards at some silver mines up north of B.C., Cdn.

Not a spot of blueing on it, bbl at end has a slight bend yet functions perfectly & I used it on my orchards to down Starling birds going after my fruit trees then sling it on my back to hop on my 2-stroke dirt comp m/c to scoot across town to another of my orchards to drop more Starlings & like prior acerage I would use some explosive wire to string a few of said Starlings up in the trees upside down. The other Startlings did not like that to much & my 2-stroke m/c often said DEATH as I carried said old shotgun & used it so often with light trap loads.

Also quite often to where I was picking & if I spotted some city slickers about to steal from my orchard a warning shot went up into the air (lots of blank loads in said case) to warn them that stealing from my orchard was not appreciated!!!!!

Mind you this was all before Bill C-17 & Bill C-68 came into effect here in Canada. Now it is almost illegal to point a finger with hammer dropping thumb at the above indicating a f/arm in mind!!!!!!

December 25, 2004, 06:05 PM
My Great-Grampa's Parker double (1896 or so).

December 25, 2004, 06:54 PM
oldest in the safe is a LeFever "A" Grade 16ga SxS that my grandfather bought in 1935. was told that my grandfather was in the local hardware store (probably somewhere around Oxford MS) and he saw three brand new Lefever shotguns for sale, all of the same "grade" and in 12,16, and 20 and decided that he wanted all three and bought them. what grandpa didn't know was that he would have 3 sons (only one possibly two [not sure when Aubrey was born] of the boys had been born in '35) and that this purchase would translate to one shotgun a piece for each of his boys. MY father being teh youngest wound up getting the gun chambered for the oddball/hard to find shell. it also bears scars from it use ove the years most fo the blue is gone, the case coloring on teh breechblock is gone except where the front bow of the triggerguard protected it from wear, and if you know where to look, and look close enough you can spot the not-quite-right reflection int eh bore where a rather good gunsmith ironed out a dent in the right barrel (old jeep+cowpasture+slightly crazy driver+ dad in back trying his best NOT to muzzle sweep other riders= WHACK "Aw S&*T").

I don't know how many other firearms my grandfather owned (he and my Maternal grandfather died a week apart when i was 2, so i never knew him) and in fact even though i know they exist i've never even seen the other two shotguns! it's the only thing i have right now that positively links back to him.

i think one day soon (maybe the next family reunion) i'll arrange to have the three lefevers brought back together again and do a little comparison and a recording of serial numbers.

Little Loudmouth
December 25, 2004, 09:29 PM
Dad and I figured out that my J.C. Higgins Model 20 (High Standard 200) was made in 1952. That makes it..hmm..52 years old.

December 25, 2004, 11:22 PM
An Winchester Model 1897 12 gauge :) .................made in 1898. :D

But due for much needed repair work. :(

December 26, 2004, 02:21 PM
1873 Colt Cavalry 7 1/2 in barrel mfg 1876 (I think) serno- 135XXX It was last worked on by the gunsmith at Fort Sill, OK in 1898 when the trigger was replaced. It's been in the family since it's issue to my Great Grandfather's Brother in the 1880's at Fort Sill.

CZ 75 BD
December 26, 2004, 04:22 PM
1863 Colt revolver in .44
Grandpappy's pappy's sidearm in the war of northern aggression.

December 26, 2004, 04:50 PM
An old Lefever SxS 12 ga.
My father and me found it in the basement of my great-great uncle after he died... at 93 years, and still worked the farm up to that last day... anyhow.
This shotty was stashed in the basement, up in a box built into the floor joists, so the average joe wouldn't see it up there. It was painted black, with oil based paint, the whole thing, thick, globby, ugly black. After a lot of elbow grease and a trip to the gunsmith for a reblueing, she's a real gem. The bores are spotless, and the wood is pretty as can be. The chokes are Improved/modified, and I have accounted for a few rabbits, some pheasant, and a lot of clays with it. I don't shoot it much these days, but it's a great gun, and I'm happy to have it.

Oh, we figure date of Mfg sometime in the early 30's.

December 26, 2004, 05:14 PM
Hk P9s 1975.

December 26, 2004, 05:28 PM
1860's Sharps 4 barrel derringer. My Dad gave it to me, and though the rotating firing pin on the hammer works I can't get it open. I figure it pulls or levers open but I can't get it - it hasn't been opened up in a long time. :) It has one plastic or Bakelite grip and one wooden grip.

December 26, 2004, 05:58 PM
I think my Yugo SKS is my oldest, but I've got a Savage 65A that might be older. I'll have to check on that one....

December 26, 2004, 05:59 PM
My 1943 Mosin 91/30

January 8, 2005, 05:57 PM
my grand fathers dbbl parker double hammer and trigger made in 1883 this gun was given to my father in 1955 and was left to me in his passing

January 8, 2005, 09:57 PM
The oldest I own is a 1942 M91 Mosin Nagant 'B' barrel, VKT marked, with Liege proofs. The receiver is dated 1895.

I bought this one about 2 years ago.


January 8, 2005, 10:06 PM
Probably my Grandfather's WARD HERCULES 12ga SxS. Has to be close to 80 years old as far as I can tell. :)

January 9, 2005, 05:37 AM
Chilean Mauser made in 1935.

Blue Line
January 9, 2005, 07:47 AM
Win 1894 in 30 WCF made about 1905

January 9, 2005, 01:26 PM
Oldest is an M-1 Garand. Second oldest is an S&W Model 10 that my father bought before I was born, with the original box, oil paper and cleaning tool.

January 9, 2005, 01:38 PM
An M1917 from 1918 and a M1903 Mark I from 1919.

Randy in Arizona
January 9, 2005, 01:49 PM
Either one of the old Remington Model 6 single shot .22s or a Springfield 03 in the 900,000 range.

:) :)

January 9, 2005, 01:52 PM
My museum quality 1917 G98 made in Danzig Germany.

January 9, 2005, 03:19 PM
'64 EG Makarov

January 9, 2005, 03:46 PM
If you count the guns I left behind when I went to college, I have a winchester 94 that dates back to the 70s I think.

If you only count the guns I personally own now, my oldest is proabably the IMI Jericho/Eagle I own, which easily dates back to the late 90s/early 2000s. Everything else is relatively new manufacture.

Fred Fuller
January 9, 2005, 05:30 PM
One more Winchester Model 1894, in .30WCF, inherited from my maternal grandfather. According to the serial number it was made in 1929. My paternal grandfather's 12 ga. Remington double barrel hammer shotgun was destroyed when their house burned after a lightning strike in 1974, or it would be here too.


January 9, 2005, 05:38 PM
An inherited 1851 Springfield.

Eskimo Jim
January 9, 2005, 06:05 PM
Inherited -Remington Rolling Block Carbine, dunno caliber. Bought in the 1950s or 1960s by my Grandfather. The carbine was probably made in the 1880s but I don't know much about it

Bought -1904+/- SMLE No1 Mk 1*** started life as a No 1 Mk 1 or Mk 1* and was updted to the 1916 standards although it still had the front and rear volley sights on it. It was my first rifle. Have never shot it. It sits oiled up in my collection.


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