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RM
April 11, 2005, 10:36 PM
I was thinking about buying a glock, specifically a glock 17. Do they come with different options, or is there one standard g-17? Buying new, is price the only consideration? Thank you for any advice.

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Lone_Gunman
April 12, 2005, 12:17 AM
Glocks fresh from the factory are pretty much identical, except you might find some with night sights.

The G17 is OK, but I would seriously look at the Glock 19. I think the 19 is a better overall gun. It still has all the ergonomics of a full size gun, but is smaller for carry, and still carries 15 round of 9mm in the mag.

Steelharp
April 12, 2005, 12:23 AM
To each their own; the 17 is better for me. The sight radius is a bit short for me on a 19. Still a great gun, though.

Hey... get both!! :D

WhoKnowsWho
April 12, 2005, 12:32 AM
Options:

Night sights or no night sights.

And green or black frames are floating around.

cslinger
April 12, 2005, 12:37 AM
All Glocks come with the ugly at no extra cost and throw in the crappy trigger and boxy grip as a bonus if you call right now. :D

Just kidding. All glocks are pretty standard with the only options that I know of being night sights. Great guns, especially the G17, although my little girly hands are more comfortable with the G19.

Chris

oneslowgun
April 12, 2005, 12:40 AM
I prefer the full size Glocks. I just seem to shoot them better.

Mikul
April 12, 2005, 12:38 PM
There's a longslide Glock 17 and a compensated version as well.

Edmond
April 12, 2005, 01:42 PM
In my opinion, nite sites are a necessity because the stock sites really stink! :neener:

Universal
April 12, 2005, 02:08 PM
A couple of things others mentioned. The standard sights are not great to put it nicely. If you are willing to part with another $50 or so you can get night sights from the factory. Also, someone mentioned the compensated models. If you are just shooting at the range they are fine but for combat shooting and self-defense I would recommend against them. The reason being that if you shoot the weapon too close to your body, you may burn yourself with the flames shooting out the top of the barrel.

Onslaught
April 12, 2005, 03:11 PM
The reason being that if you shoot the weapon too close to your body, you may burn yourself with the flames shooting out the top of the barrel.

Pardon me for interrupting, but that is internet B.S.

I don't believe anything I read, and only half of what I see, and not being one to mind very much if I injure myself every now and again, I took my Father's Taurus .32 H&R magnum with the ports in the top... and placed my hand very carefully as not to be in the path of the bullet but to be sure and get plenty of "port coverage"... Holding my hand approximately 4" - 6" over the holes, I felt the heat, but I did not receive any actual "burns". It was very similar to shooting a bottle rocket from your hands... I guarantee you that, were I in a "defensive" situation, I wouldn't even feel it at all until it was over with. I'm not saying to "buy one", because I don't really like the ports, but I certainly can't say "don't buy one because you'll burn yourself"... that's just not true.

As for Glocks, ditto what's been said about options. I like the 19 as well. On the other hand, once you PURCHASE your Glock, the available options, gadgets, and doohickies are overwhelming! I like Glocks... They're ugly and they don't fit my hand that well, but they're the Ruger 10/22 of the pistol world... HUNDREDS of accessories for a pistol with about 20 parts in it :)

Universal
April 12, 2005, 03:16 PM
Actually it is not internet BS. I personally have seen this happen on the range I ran for my police department. I also trained with two tactical officers at the state academy who had the same problem. I do not simply repeat stuff I read somewhere else. I will only reply to a post here if I have some personal knowledge of the subject being discussed.

Edmond
April 12, 2005, 03:46 PM
I've also been told that the factory nite site's aren't that great. I can't say anything about them because I installed Mepro's on my G30. Mepro's are only about $65 and they are nice. :D

RM
April 13, 2005, 12:03 AM
Are factory "adjustable " sights adjustable for both windage and elevation? Is it difficult to change the sights on a fixed sight model? Thank you.

Edmond
April 13, 2005, 12:16 AM
Is it difficult to change the sights on a fixed sight model?

It's not difficult at all.

The front site is just pulled out or you could punch it out from the inside. The rear site, however, is trickier. You should use the site adjustment tool to install the rear site. It's a dovetail joint that's used for the rear site. And after you've installed the rear site, you'll have to get some range time in to get it centered properly.

VictorLouis
April 13, 2005, 01:28 AM
due to their stake-on installation of the front. This makes it inconvenient to replace, or switch out to try an alternate front.

Onslaught, with all due respect, it most certainly is NOT B.S. I would suggest you try the same experiment with a modern +P defensive load in 9mm, .357(Mag or Sig), .40, .45, or 10mm. However, to do so would be irresponsible, because I know that your hand would sustain some level of injury or pain.:o The level of ejecta spit upwards by some of these loads can impact you under the chin, or worse yet, behind your safety glasses and into your eyes!. Did I mention the subject of burns?

Now, with respect to the so-called night-blindness concern, THAT I would agree is overblown.:)

Mason
April 13, 2005, 05:53 PM
If you have larger hands, stay away from the 19. My wife has one and I have a 17. With the new finger groves in the grip, my fingers to ride on the peaks, instead of in the valleys. If you can find an older one without the groves, go for it.

I would say stay away from the ported barrels. The 9mm doesn't have enough kick to warrant it.

Go to your local gunshop and order a pair of good after-market sights, Novak's get my vote. They can install them easy for you.

Only go with factory clips. You can now get 15 or 17 rounders for under $20.

I have always liked lighter bullet weights for the 9mm, 115's and 124's, and my Glocks like them as well.

Tecolote
April 13, 2005, 09:26 PM
Glock night sights are a POS. Stick with Trijicon or Meprolight sights.

Onmilo
April 13, 2005, 09:49 PM
As they come from the factory G-17s are standard with fixed plain sights and a 5 pound pull weight trigger connector.
You can specify plain adjustable or fixed tritium night sights.
I like MMC fully adjustable Tritium Night Sight sets and fixed meprolights.

Other options that can be added by any Glock Certified Armorer include lighter 3.5 pound pull weight trigger connectors, extended magazine release, and extended slide stop.

If you wish to shoot lead bullet then you will need to obtain a conventionally rifled aftermarket barrel, the polygonal rifled factory barrel does not go well with lead bullets.

You may choose to add a plug on the bottom of the grip frame and the nifty slot on the dustcover is always there to accept a nifty flashlight, or laser, or laser/flashlight, or perhaps a special operations grenade launcher.

Really there isn't anything else to do to a Glock except buy a holster to carry it in.

9mmepiphany
April 14, 2005, 02:28 AM
you also get a choice of trigger pull weigts. as already stated the 5.5# is standard. then you have the NY-1 at 8# and the NY-2 at 11#. you can even add a competition 3.5# one.

my personal choice ia the g-19 because it just seems to balance better in my hand. it came with a NY-1 trigger, but i brought it back down to 5.5# by adding a 3.5# connector

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