[Diesle]

I like the Steyr Scout (http://remtek.com/arms/steyr/scout/scout.htm) . How can I get one for $1000?



What do you like in a lightweight shortie yet powerfull rifle?




Diesle

[Steve Smith]

I just checked the CDNN website for you. Lots of .376 and .243 models, no .308s this time. Some are at $1100. www.cdnninvestments.com

[RTownsend]

If you can afford the Steyr then I say "buy it".

I like my Savage Scout. It is now my primary deer rifle. I adjusted the trigger, enlarged the barrel channel, added a Wilderness Ching Sling, mounted the Leupold with QRW mounts, painted the stock with granite texture paint, then camoed the whole thing.

I haven't tried to test its accuracy but it has given many sub 1 MOA groups at 100 yards with the 2 1/2 power scope from a prone supported position.

My Dad which pokes fun at me for my love of Savages even commented that he really likes the balance and feel of the Scout.

I can't fault the idea that the forward scope isn't much if any better than a conventional mounted low power scope but after using it for an entire season I think it will perform its job in any situation that you will find when hunting.

Then only real downside is that you can't see through it as long after legal time as you can through some other quality scopes. You also may find your self wishing for more power to check for brush during a long shot.

[Dave R]

RTownsend, if you don't mind me asking, how much does a Savage Scout run? They don't put SRP on their website.

[AK103K]

I got my Savage Scout for around $750. Thats with the Leupold Scout scope, QD rings and Galco Ching Sling. I'm also getting groups under an inch at 100 yards using my realods, if I do my part. My trigger was good right from the box. My only gripe is the recoil pad(I hate them and this one is real sticky) and that they dont provide the third sling point for the sling. For the money, I dont think you can go wrong with the Savage.

[RTownsend]

I gave $349 for mine used with a spare mag. They had a new one for $389. It was supposed to have never been fired.

[Jaeger]

Here is a link to the scout rifle I built using a .303 Jungle Carbine.

It's taken several deer and is one of my favorite woods companions.

Enfield Scout (http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters/JC1.htm)

[Dave Markowitz]

A No.5Mk.I Jungle Carbine that I picked up cheap because some fool refinished it, destroying the collector's value. (Although I'll admit he did a good job refinishing the wood and metal.)

[AK103K]

If you go the SMLE route, I'd stay with the .303. I had one of the Ishpore .308 rifles and a lot of trouble with it. I never could get it to reliably eject. I dont think the ejector and the rimless cartridges get along to well, it was made for one with a rim. The mags can be a problem, and feeding can be iffy, especially with the wrong mag. It was fairly accurate with the open sights though, about like a good AK. Its also a little heavy.

[Jaeger]

I can tell you that all the deer that have fallen to my enfield scout couldn't tell the difference between the .308 and the .303!

The old .303 is a fine cartridge that is fully capable of taking big game at all ethical ranges. I theoretically limit myself to 300yds.. Realistically, I've never shot a deer at over 200yds with the vast majority being under 100.

308 would be nice for ammo availability but it's not enought to offset the attributes of the #4/#5 action.

[COHIBA]

i have a ruger #1 international scout. 7X57 w/ leupold 2.5 IER on a 20"BBL full mannlicher stocker rifle less than 34" long. a galco butcuff tops it off.
who ever said it HAD to be a boltgun?
if my #1 was any faster to the shoulder i'd probably beat myself to death w/ it.

[DAL]

AK103K, I'll probably regret saying this on my next trip to the range, but my Ishapore Enfield works great. I've never had any extraction problems, although I did have a couple of instances where it didn't feed properly. As far as accuracy, mine has done 2.5 MOA off of the bench with surplus ammo, a heck of a lot better than my Russian SKS.
DAL

P.S. The rear sight on my Ishy gets VERY hot after an extended string of firing.

[goon]

My Ishy jungle carbine is also a little tempermental. I replaced the extractor spring, and it had gotten better, but I still don't know if it is 100%.
My Savage scout would be a better choice. I would say that it is about as close to a GP rifle as you could find. Good to about 400 or so yds on a man sized target, 200 on game. Good accuracy, especially considering that I only have a 2x scope on it. I have also gotten sub inch 3 shot groups with my handloads.
It is light enough that it can be carried for a long time with out being tiring, and the gun is well worn in, so the bolt works about as fast as an Enfield.
I want to get a couple of spare mags for mine, but other than that, there is nothing that I need for it.
I would say that it was money well spent.

[Sir Galahad]

Ruger M77Mk2 International in .308 flavor. Everything I wanted and more.

[cheygriz]

If hunting is involved, a Model 70 Winchester Featherweight in .30-06 with synthetic stock and conventionally mounted 6X42 scope.

I don't think this setup can be bested for a lightweight, long range mountain moutain rifle.

If big game hunting is not involved, my Bushmaster Dissapator 16 inch barrel AR-15 with a 30 rounder of M855 ball.

[AK103K]

DAL,
My problems were with ejection, it extracted fine. I could never get the rifle to get the emptys out and away from the gun reliably. Sometimes it would chuck one ten feet away, the next the case would lay on top of the magazine and cause a jam when you tried to feed the next. I dont think the ejector is meant for rimless rounds. I replaced the one that came with the rifle, and the new one had the exact same problem. Even when screwed in until the bolt was binding. The magazine that came with my rifle was trash and didnt seat tight or up far enough to allow the bolt to strip a round. I did find a new one from Gun Parts and it fed pretty much 100% after that. Accuracy wise, my rifle shot prety good, about the same as yours. A couple of my AK's shoot about the same, in the 3" range. For me its that type of rear sight that is the problem. If it had the latter SMLE peep, I'm sure it would be better. I'm sure all my AK's would also do better with a peep. They are not as inaccurate as some will have you believe. I was having trouble reloading for my rifle too, I couldnt get more than one load from my brass due to case head seperations. I only used surplus in it. I've heard from a couple of people that this is pretty common with the SMLE, reguardless of caliber. I was also told that you can switch out the bolt head to adjust the headspace and solve the problem. I got rid of mine before that though or I probably would have tried it.

[goon]

AK103K- did your rifle have the regular leaf style extractor spring, or did it have a coil spring held in place with a cold rolled pin?
Mine had the latter, and I replaced it with the leaf style. You wouldn't think that would make a difference, but it has. But I still haven't shot it enough to know if it is fixed. My test runs with empties have shown that it is still erratic, but it is better.

[AK103K]

It had the coil spring.