Trading problematic firearms: Full disclosure?


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Devonai
April 20, 2005, 09:55 PM
I have a S&W 1006 that doesn't like high-velocity ammo. It feeds target ammo with 100% reliability, but will not extract self-defense loads reliably. If you want in on that discussion, it was going on here. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=133074)

Anyway, it's been too long and I've put way too many rounds through this pistol to ask for a full refund. It would be easier for me to simply trade it in for, say, a 4506, but I feel I can't trade it without revealing or rectifying the problem.

Thoughts?

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Maddock
April 20, 2005, 10:21 PM
I’ve always disclosed any issues with a gun. The few bucks that would be realized by hiding any problems wouldn’t be enough compensation for the feeling that I lost my integrity. There have been a couple times when I was just not up to the hassle of fixing a problem and took the financial hit.

HighVelocity
April 20, 2005, 10:37 PM
I can't let go of a malfunctioning weapon. It either gets fixed or sits in the safe.

R.H. Lee
April 20, 2005, 10:38 PM
Absolutely. Full disclosure without question. Life's too short and money is not worth lies and deceit.

Titus
April 20, 2005, 10:43 PM
Just take fastbolt's advice and send it in to S&W and have them fix it. The extractor and/or spring is the most likely problem and they'll replace it and have it back to you in no time. Highly unlikely the problem is serious enough that you would need to ask anyone for your money back or have a issue of conscience if you wanted to sell it.

Standing Wolf
April 20, 2005, 11:05 PM
Passing on dishonesty isn't the way of shooters.

Majic
April 20, 2005, 11:11 PM
Either I fix it, have it fixed, or it becomes a pile of parts to fix others.

Lennyjoe
April 20, 2005, 11:21 PM
How much do you want for it? :evil:

trickyasafox
April 21, 2005, 12:27 AM
full disclosure is a must. the money you may lose in this sale youll gain back in others for being known as a good trader.

Devonai
April 21, 2005, 12:17 PM
Today I sent the 1006 in to S&W and bought a 4506 anyway. At least if I decide to sell the 1006 when it gets back, I can do so with a clear conscience.

BTW my dealer offered me $100 for it after I told him about the problem. :D

Lennyjoe
April 21, 2005, 04:51 PM
Heck, I'd give you $150 ;)

M2 Carbine
April 21, 2005, 05:05 PM
Full disclosure?

Yes.

I even go so far that I tell the local gun shop manager if he sells one of my trade ins and it's brought back to him with a problem I'll give him back the trade in value he allowed me.

I've sold guns to strangers at gun shows and always tell them if there's a slight problem (I wouldn't be selling it if it had a big problem).

P95Carry
April 21, 2005, 05:33 PM
Good to see the poll is about right - tho the four currently advocating saying nothing are a pity.

This is all about integrity and honesty. I would prefer to sell a grade A1 piece - or if possible have any prob fixed if present. I would tho also consider selling a piece with some fault or defect - making 100% sure that was fully explained.

I have been thinking of selling my P12-45 - but it is still not up to the reliability level I'd like - needs some more time and TLC and it'll be good - but just don't shoot it much. If I go ahead - it will be fully explained and the price asked will reflect that.

We owe it to each other to be scrupulously fair and above board.

El Tejon
April 21, 2005, 05:37 PM
Like Standing Volk sez, I always feel like I have a duty of honesty to the gun culture as a whole when it comes to a lemon.

However, whenever I sell a weapon I always say, "best gun I've ever owned." :D

jefnvk
April 21, 2005, 06:20 PM
If there is a problem, I'll tell them. I will sell a broken gun, however, bit they will know the problem before they buy it.

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