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english kanigit
April 21, 2005, 12:45 AM
Hey guys, whats a good bait to use for cats? There's a nasty old tomcat that keeps pissing on our front porch, problem is that I'm never around! :rolleyes:
Any ideas?

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sm
April 21, 2005, 01:17 AM
1) hire an old lady housekeeper with a umbrella, or broom.
2) babysit a friend's BIG dog.
3) if porch is out in the country - umm...165 grainer from an '06 works. Why do you think they call them "sick days". ;) " yeah had a case of the "red mist" hit me yesterday..."

I'm right partial to option 3 if the porch is out in the country - if not, see option 2. :)

only1asterisk
April 21, 2005, 01:41 AM
#220 Conibear with a bit of tuna or herring. Instant kill without having to be present.

David

deciple-of-keith
April 21, 2005, 09:57 AM
1/2 a doz crushed asprin in a sauser of milk does the trick nicely

45crittergitter
April 21, 2005, 01:26 PM
Potted meat - deviled ham works for me.

Deciple - what does the aspirin do?

griz
April 21, 2005, 01:58 PM
A female cat will draw them in just fine, but I suspect you already figured that out. :neener:

Greymoor
April 21, 2005, 02:34 PM
The aspirin when in a high dose is toxic in cats. It also lasts a long time in their bloodstream so they can be poisoned easily if not careful. Not a very humane way to remove the problem cat. Use a trap or weapon to quickly dispose of a feral pet. If the cat is a pet it is a good way to pay a hefty fine and possible do a bit of time.

MikeIsaj
April 21, 2005, 02:35 PM
Rat poison (warfarin) is good for many types of vermin. Just make sure no dogs will get into it, because it will kill them too. Put it on a high table. You may even start by putting cat food out for a few days. When you see he's regularly eating it, switch to the poison. He'll gobble it down and bye bye kitty.

mathyoo
April 21, 2005, 02:42 PM
This is one of the dumbest things ive ever read. :rolleyes: First off, if your worried about a cat peeing on your front porch you need to find something better to do with your time, cats dont exactly leave lakes. Second, is it really that hard to spray some repellant around or something? Third, why is this in hunting? Finally, how do you know its a cat if you have never even seen it?

firesafety3
April 21, 2005, 02:45 PM
Borrow a live animal trap from the local Parks & Wildlife. What you do with him after that is totally up to you.

sm
April 21, 2005, 03:08 PM
In all due respect - this thread ain't dumb.

Now the mall ninja with extra ceramic plates story is D-U-M-B . Do a search.

Feral Cats, have HIV, and other nasty diseases they can infect with. Granted we don't know if english kanigit, has other pets, or perhaps - he may have small kids or neighbors with pets.

Heckuva lot more sense than some mall ninja duct-taping extra ceramic plates ( funny as hell to read tho' :p ).

I was serious. I mean why wait till the critter is on the Porch? If one is out in the country...

I have done and will continue to be responsible and eradicate Feral Cats, rabid racoons, dogs and whatever. An '06 from a model 70 off the porch at 70 seventy steps works. Not only did I eradicate any disease, I got to practice my rifle skills, and well like the man said ...

buzzards gotta eat too

Oh - the easiest way to get a rabid skunk to "settle down" in a wire cage type trap...so he don;t tear up the trap, and you don't get bit....480 Ruger and .454 Casull work...

It was practice handgun skills day and both traps had a rabid skunk..yeah the loads the guys worked up - worked...

Play Misty for Me...

kimbernut
April 21, 2005, 03:43 PM
mathyoo, please don't take this wrong but you obviously have not had the problem. The brass kickplate on our front door was half green from the urine induced corrosion before a single head shot at 60 yards took him out humanely. The odor was overwhelming for about two months until he was dispatched.Many of these suggestions, as it has been pointed out, are dangerous to other animals and to you good standing in the community.I do favor the .22 LR and patience for the right time and shot placement.

NRA4LIFE
April 21, 2005, 07:53 PM
Yes, this is not dumb at all. I had a similar problem with a feral tom spraying on some carpeting in my garage. The smell was eye-watering. Not only did I have to burn the carpet, I eventually had to scrub the floor and then power wash it. (tom went bye-bye to kitty hell after a couple of these episodes, sans head).

I don't recommend the connibear, especially a 220. Ummm, somebody told me this, but apparently they are capable of dispatching up to a medium sized dog if it gets it around it's head/neck.

I have a raccoon-sized Hav-no-Hart live trap that I use now. Cats are pretty dumb in general and most of them will go in. The bait? Why canned cat food of course. Sardines work well too.

dakotasin
April 21, 2005, 08:18 PM
mathyoo- catpiss stinks to high heaven, and it don't take a lake to make the odor.

for my own cat problems, i use polish sausages and a live trap if i won't be around followed up w/ a 300 win mag, and if i will be around i use polish sausages and a 300 win mag.

Greybeard
April 21, 2005, 11:43 PM
Dallas TV 10:00 news tonight just included a story about Arlington man trapping 'em in his yard (within city limts). In interview, he said he was sick and tired of smelling the piss (and yea Art, their Grandma did not censor the word ;) ).

City Animal control officers had told him that if he caught 'em, they were "his". Supposedly, he had already caught 4. And hauled 'em off and "dropped off in a rural area" ... :rolleyes:

sm
April 21, 2005, 11:51 PM
i use polish sausages and a 300 win mag.
:D

I see we had the same mentors and elders teaching us stuff... :p

Ruark said to Use Enough Gun. He also said to shoot again....works for me... :D

english kanigit
April 22, 2005, 01:30 AM
As to the cat piss, I actually took a pressure sprayer to the front door and siding before cleaning up the drive for our yard sale.

As to the cats, right now I'm exploring options.
I'm in the city so no fire arms. (Too bad, my m39 could use a yawn and a stretch)
There are three regular offenders, two of them normally get greeted by my paintball gun. The third really nasty one gets a shot in the butt from the pellet gun at one pump. :evil:
I'm pretty sure they all live within a two block radius.

Today we kicked off our family's big spring garage sale. One of them came into the yard and my grammaw approached it and started the whole "shoo kitty" routine. One of the shoppers immediately perked her head up and, ah , "informed" us that we were to leave her "well mannered and polite" cat alone. :scrutiny: I cleaned it up and turned down the volume level, just for Art's Grammaw.

only1asterisk
April 22, 2005, 06:51 AM
A 220 Connibear will most certainly kill dogs and injure curious children. They should be used with due care. They cost less than live traps and don’t require dealing with a living, biting animal.

David

Greybeard
April 22, 2005, 09:20 AM
Ya might think about asking city animal control to loan ya a live trap or three. Then let them (and the owners) "deal" with the issue when ya catch one. (or if ya opt to buy one, here, they sell for around $60 at feed stores).

While I've caught (and released) some neighbors' cats in box traps put out for coons and skunks, I've never caught the same cat twice, so I think they get wiser quickly.

Too, you might improve the odds a little by covering up all of the wire cage except for the fall-down door. I've not seen a cat yet that did not think it needed to check out the inside of any new "box" on its "turf". :)

dakotasin
April 22, 2005, 10:09 AM
sm- one thing i will never be accused of is bordering on the edge of using too light of a gun for the task at hand. i don't care if its deer hunting or cat-killing. to dispatch cats, the lightest guns i've used were a 7 rem mag for one, and a 12 gauge for another.

i do not know if it is fortunate or not however, that i have not needed to 'shoot again'...? i have learned that in the case of a 300 win mag spitting relatively lightly constructed 150's at peak velocity, it takes a mighty fine shot to hit something w/ a second shot!!!

sm
April 22, 2005, 11:02 AM
Shoot again...

Comes from Ruark. He just knew the shot was good. He climbed down from the blind, and no "cat". The PH had said to alway shoot twice - especially a critter with the ablilty to do serious harm , kill you and then eat you. :)

The hair stands on end when you know there is a "cat" out there somewhere, and it is dark...you are now the "prey" in his environment....

MassHunter2190
April 22, 2005, 05:27 PM
You could try a "havahart" trap baited with...whatever you have.
If that doesn't work, .22lr with hollowpoints?

Texian Pistolero
April 22, 2005, 05:43 PM
Will cats do the old "lick the anti-freeze" trick?

How about, drop a dime to the nearest Chinese restaurant?

Shovelhead
April 22, 2005, 06:38 PM
Cat Burglar?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1185126

scout26
April 22, 2005, 08:33 PM
Down in southern Illinois where I hunt, the park we camp at had problems with feral cats. So one of the rangers took to hunting them down with a .22. The local bunnyhuggers got upset and insited that he use a Hav-A-Heart traps on the feral cats. He didn't know what the big fuss was about, since he would just take the traps over to the lake and drop them in there for a couple of minutes before going to empty them in the dumpster. :D

Bigjake
April 23, 2005, 02:01 PM
havaharts are great. put a can of out of date chicken in one monday night, and tuesday i had one of the usual suspects caught. took that bugger out into the middle of a freshly fit field (rough ground, its when you start to level out the plowed field to ready it for planting). i THOUGHT i'd just hit the door, and then wack him when left the trap with my guide gun. wrong. I've NEVER seen a critter run that fast. got 4 shots off, as fast as the critter was, he couldnt outrun that last 405 grainer'. use enough gun right?? :evil:

english kanigit,

trap the little sucker and and transport him to the location of your choice, then excersize the ol' 7.62x54R ;)

dakotasin
April 24, 2005, 04:35 PM
i don't know why in tarnation people have to dump their cats and dogs they can't handle any more. they aren't doing their animal any favors, the cats and dogs do lots of destruction, and wind up dead anyway. be a man and do the deed yourself. saw a cat that was freshly dumped a little while ago. nearest farmhouse is 5 miles from where i saw it (not including ours - which i know he didn't belong to). it was a purebred himalayan, and i thought maybe someone lost it (since they aren't usually cheap cats). so i let it walk, and kept an eye out for lost cat signs, and listened to the radio... after a week and a half, no word. saw the cat today as i was loading up my gear. put my earplugs in, loaded the 8 mauser, and put the cat down...

i wish people would realize they need to take care of their own problems themselves...

20cows
April 28, 2005, 04:28 PM
City Animal control officers had told him that if he caught 'em, they were "his". Supposedly, he had already caught 4. And hauled 'em off and "dropped off in a rural area" ...

Yeah, take them out to a rural area where they become somebody else's problem (like MINE).

This happens alot.

Byron Quick
April 28, 2005, 05:23 PM
The third really nasty one gets a shot in the butt from the pellet gun at one pump.

When I was in college, I rented a cottage in a man's back yard. My bedroom window was right on his rear property line. Well, the guy who owned the house on the next street built a pen for his Rottweiler on his rear property line...right next to my bedroom window. I was working at night and going to school in the morning-sleeping in the afternoon and evening. And that dog started barking nonstop. I talked with the owner several times about it. No change. I got out the Crosman pellet pistol and pumped it up ten times. Waited for the Rott to start barking. It wasn't a long wait. That dog never uttered another sound when I was home. Ever.

Oh, the comment about cats not urinating a lake. Well, tomcats don't need to urinate a lake...a little dab will do ya.

Oh, yeah, the owner and the well-mannered cat? I'd just tell her to keep herself and her well-mannered cat off of my property if she was being uncivil as the poster implied...like right now and forevermore.

Mgraff
April 30, 2005, 01:06 AM
the guy down the street uses tuna fish laced with anti-freeze...seems to work well. Not very humane or nice but effective. We have far less cats since he moved in, and my live trap is always empty now...so I guessing NO cats. Its a house cat people should keep em in thier house!

rexelbion
May 3, 2005, 02:53 PM
A bear trap & a can of tuna.

Should eliminate your problems by half! :evil:

gamachinist
May 16, 2005, 10:38 PM
mathyoo ,
If you have never smelled cat "spray",
go to the auto parts store,and purchase a bottle of 90 weight gear oil(It is pretty close in stench).
Open and take a deep whiff.
If you think you want that smell every morning as you walk out the door,well,I don't know what to say.

I knew a man here that had problems with stray cats on his back porch.
His way was to take two small screens from windows and place one on each step.
Take a long enough piece of lamp cord,attach one wire to each screen and plug it in.According to him,if they lived,they didn't come back.
Ymmv.

1911 guy
May 22, 2005, 09:52 AM
are the way to go in this situation. I don't want cats on my place, but I also don't want to have a potentially dangerous thing (even my smaller traps will break kids fingers) sitting on my front porch if I don't have to. Then throw the trap in the trunk and take Mr Tom and a good pistol for a ride.

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