Weird band on case, LC 308
griz
April 21, 2005, 09:03 AM
I ran across this case and had never seen the indented band around the base like this. Is this common? Does it serve any purpose? The headstamp isn't too clear in the pic but it is LC 87 match.
http://tinypic.com/4kaccl
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Rico567
April 21, 2005, 09:07 AM
Bought a big can of LC94 Match from CMP at a price I couldn't refuse- they've all got the same band. Nobody I know has ever seen anything like it, either, but it doesn't seem to affect performance.
Zak Smith
April 21, 2005, 11:54 AM
I seem to remember something about some military "match" ammunition which had this band so soldiers in the field could tactilely identify the match rounds and ostensibly not use them on human targets.
I can't find a reference to confirm, however.
30Cal
April 21, 2005, 12:04 PM
It's M852 which is loaded with a 168gr Sierra HPBTM bullet intended for competition. The cannelure is a cue that these cartridges are not authorized for combat use (says so on the box).
Ty
Rockstar
April 21, 2005, 12:36 PM
Or, maybe it's a cue to a sniper that he's using "the right stuff." :)
30Cal
April 21, 2005, 12:48 PM
Or, maybe it's a cue to a sniper that he's using "the right stuff."
Actually, he'd be using M118 (173gr FMJ) or M118LR (175gr Sierra HPBTM).
griz
April 21, 2005, 01:38 PM
Thanks guys, I knew somebody here would know.
P0832177
April 22, 2005, 11:12 PM
The bad part about the cannalure on the case is that it is in the area of where there is the potential for case head separations occur!
griz
April 24, 2005, 08:39 AM
I didn't think of that. Maybe it's to work harden the case a little right where it needs it?
Kamicosmos
April 24, 2005, 06:24 PM
Is that a crack running along the side of the case? it originates in one of the cannulatures...
Bwana John
April 25, 2005, 10:27 AM
The loaded ammo has a boat-tail hollow point, and the cannalure designates it as "Not for Combat".
The bad part about the cannalure on the case is that it is in the area of where there is the potential for case head separations occur!
That is what I have always worryed about, but after multiple reloads I have never had a problem, its pretty good match brass (Much better than Fed. GMM, IMHO)
30Cal
April 25, 2005, 02:26 PM
I had a batch of about 2500 of those that I shot 4-5 times each through the M1A. I think they're ok to reload
BUT
I think it's important that you use a cartridge headspace gage to set your FL sizing die. You want to bump the shoulder back just a little 0.002-0.003". Mine were all out of the same lot, but I had a batch that cracked at the cannelure after 4 reloads (two of them completely separated during a rapid fire string at a match--fortunately, both extracted on their own). After that, I bought a case gage and it turns out I was setting the shoulder back by 0.005-0.006". I also got nervous at that point and tossed the remaining 100 cases I had left.
I think they're ok to reload, but are more prone to separating.
BluesBear
April 26, 2005, 02:33 AM
The bad part about the cannalure on the case is that it is in the area of where there is the potential for case head separations occur!Of course the US Military doesn't care because it only requires it to work once.
griz
April 29, 2005, 07:35 AM
Is that a crack running along the side of the case?
It's hard to tell what it is but I don't think it's a crack. The photo highlights it much more than the eye does. I didn't even notice it until I saw it on the screen. By eye it looks like a mere scratch, but if you look with magnification it could possibly be a manufacturing defect.
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