[Edgeofthewoods]

Hey folks. I got a problem. I picked up a box of West Coast Plateted bullets and not matter what I do I can not get them to chamber in my 1911 Springfield. Now my Lee cast bullets chamber fine but those darn West Coast's will not fully feed.I llok at the bullets and there is a "dent in the nose of the bullet like it is hitting the top of the chamber .I don't have a caliper, but I load them to the smae OAL of a factory bullet and to the same length as my cast. The only differance is that they seem to have a longer "nose than a factory PMC or my cast bullets.
Any advice I can get will be very helpful. I am to the point of giveing the whole box to my sons for there slingshots. (Rabbits BEWARE!!)

Thanks
Chuck

[trickyasafox]

maybe you got a box of 45lc instead of 45 auto?

[Edgeofthewoods]

I never thought of that. THe box has only .452 230 grain round nose. I need ot write West coast and ask.
Thanks for the tip

Chuck

[ClarkEMyers]

Seems likely that with a different ogive design a different overall length might well work better.

See e.g. the various drawings that would superimpose a drawing of a round nose atop the outline of the H&G/Saeco #68 with the outside edge of the meplat tangent to the curve of the round nose so as to derive an equivalent overall length for best feeding.

Notice that identical overall length does not mean identical powder room volume and so is no guarantee of anything with respect to pressures.

[Zak Smith]

I've used a gazillion 200gr PRN's in my 1911, seated to 1.260"

[Amy]

Zak,

Try seating them deeper.

a.

[Tory]

Operator Error!

In his own words:

1. "THe box has only .452 230 grain round nose."

This is correct for a .45 ACP cartridge.

2. "I don't have a caliper, but I load them to the smae OAL of a factory bullet and to the same length as my cast."

If you "don't have a caliper," you have NO IDEA what the true OAL is. The mere fact that you did not change the bullet seating plug is irrelevant.

If the SHAPE of the bullet has changed, the depth the seating plug will seat it to will ALSO change. The fact that you are getting a "dent in the nose of the bullet" should have made that amply evident.

I used 2000 West Coast bullets in 1911's and revolvers without the problem you describe (complete with superfluous and incomplete quotation marks). It appears the problem is not the projectile, but the reloader's inattention to detail. :uhoh:

[Edgeofthewoods]

<<<Operator Error!

In his own words:

1. "THe box has only .452 230 grain round nose."

This is correct for a .45 ACP cartridge.

2. "I don't have a caliper, but I load them to the smae OAL of a factory bullet and to the same length as my cast."

If you "don't have a caliper," you have NO IDEA what the true OAL is. The mere fact that you did not change the bullet seating plug is irrelevant.

If the SHAPE of the bullet has changed, the depth the seating plug will seat it to will ALSO change. The fact that you are getting a "dent in the nose of the bullet" should have made that amply evident.

I used 2000 West Coast bullets in 1911's and revolvers without the problem you describe (complete with superfluous and incomplete quotation marks). It appears the problem is not the projectile, but the reloader's inattention to detail. >>>>


Thank you for you reply, How ever you seem to be afflicted with the old sickness of knowing way to much for your own good and not wanting to help out a new reloader who btw has moved from 30 years of blackpowder to smoke less. So you sir can just kiss my soot covered black powder ass and have a nice day doing it.

[Lennyjoe]

I have loaded several hundred 230 gr West Coast bullets for my Kimber and Mini Firestorm and they have all fed just fine. The plating is a bit softer than jacketed bullets and the dent you see might be from hitting during feeding.

Now, what to do in order to get them to feed in your Springer. I would decrease the OAL just a bit to see if they will feed. Beware of how deep you go with the OAL though, pressure will increase the deeper you seat the bullets.

Another question, is the factory ammo giving you any feeding problems?

If the OAL doesnt work, then I would try and return the bullets. Might be a QC issue with the manufacture on that specific lot.

[Zak Smith]

Amy,
Try seating them deeper.
Why would I want to change a load which has run great for 10,000+ rounds?

[Rockstar]

Seems to me that seating a little deeper and springing for a rudimentary caliper would be good advice for ol' Kiss-my-soot-covered-black-powder-ass-guy. :p

[Lennyjoe]

So you sir can just kiss my soot covered black powder ass and have a nice day doing it.

Comments like that have no place on The High Road!

[Tory]

don't ask the question!

An admonition the source of this thread obviously failed to heed:

"So you sir can just kiss my soot covered black powder ass and have a nice day doing it."

And you sir, may continue to wallow in ignorance while your gun is paralyzed with jams caused by your improper reloading techniques. And long may you enjoy the experience. :banghead:

[Zak Smith]

Tory,

Zak wants to know:
"Why would I want to change a load which has run great for 10,000+ rounds?"
No-one has suggested that YOU change anything. It wasn't your question, the problem did not concern your loads and the suggestions weren't made to or about you.
In short, you are not the center of the universe, or even this thread.

Reading is fundamental. Look at reply #6 by Amy, quoted here in its entirety:

Zak,

Try seating them deeper.

a.
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[Tory]

which I, grasping, edited my post to reflect. You might want to consider doing the same.

Amy obviously meant to refer to our learned black-powder brother and inadvertently named you when she suggested seating the bullets deeper. If you doubt that, contact her directly.

Reading is fundamental, and RTFDitis is an affliction.

But reading without comprehension is a waste of everyone's time. ;)

[Zak Smith]

I'll leave it up for posterity. :neener:

The default is to assume the person means what she says and knows how to operate on the forums.