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iamhistory
March 16, 2003, 12:30 AM
Uh oh........I'm having major difficulty shooting Wolf out of my 1911 Springfield Mil-Spec.
I have used a number of different brands of ammo and I no doubt have shot much more Wolf out of my pistol than any other brand. Now just recently, Wolf WILL NOT eject or feed properly for some reason. I thought it may be causing a problem in the pistol due to the steel casings so I tested out other brands such as Winchester white box, UMC, CCI Blazer, etc. All the standard ball stuff. They feed and eject fine, but the Wolf continues to malfunction.
I'm curious to know if any of you have experienced that. I have seen where guys said the steel casings have damaged ejectors and they stopped using Wolf. I have shot at least 700 rounds of Wolf through my pistol in the last few months. No problems until now. I can't even get 2 consecutive rounds off without a stoppage. I put Blazers back through and can fire as fast as I can with no trouble. Any input? It would be appreciated.
1badmagnum
March 16, 2003, 01:04 AM
wolf has a bad reputation fror just this reason,one lot shoots fine the next three dont.
If you dont handload,cci blazer is quality ammo,it just uses cheap metal cases,but the quality control process is the same as all cci/speer ammo.
I would stick with blazer,especially shooting from a fine firearm.
COHIBA
March 16, 2003, 01:26 AM
lets see...
steel case.
steel chamber.
steel extractor.
i would not shoot wolf or any other steel cased ammo in anything but AK's or SKS's.
would you run 87 octan in a porshe?
cratz2
March 16, 2003, 01:27 AM
Don't know... never shot Wolf in any of my 1911s... Or any of my handguns for that matter. Not sure what the exact issue is but just because it's new ammo, don't assume it's built/loaded to spec. One of the major brands, PMC I believe, loads 9mm FMJ ammo that is not to spec. Will work in most quality guns but many guns that feed other 9mm ball just fine will not feed PMC.
coonan357
March 16, 2003, 04:00 AM
hmmmm... american made gun , commie made ammo ...maybe your gun is more patriotic than you thought ... :D :D
DamnedDirtyApe
March 16, 2003, 11:59 AM
The red sealant goo on a Wolf bullet/case seam liquified in my 45 ACP Glock 30's chamber and virtually glued itself in there.
The round also had a bad primer, so I couldn't shoot it out. I ended up having to beat the round out of there (still live) with a wooden dowel and a hammer. Never again.
After saying this, I do like Wolf AK ammo. Just never again for the pistolas.
Sean Smith
March 16, 2003, 12:30 PM
Wolf=crap ammo.
10-Ring
March 16, 2003, 12:33 PM
Stay away from the Wolf ammo! Do a search on the subject, consensus opinion is pretty clear ;)
Archer
March 16, 2003, 12:37 PM
"Doctor, when I beat my head against the wall it HURTS ! What can I do to make it stop ???"
:rolleyes:
Wolf makes your gun malfunction. Stop using it.
ruger357
March 16, 2003, 04:22 PM
I have no problem with Wolf ammo in my Kimber.
Stevie-Ray
March 16, 2003, 10:41 PM
I've always heard Wolf was junk. I know Blazers are junk. Don't use either of them. Cheapest I run through my Kimber or H&K is white box Winchester. Good stuff for hardball. I tried Blazers years ago and it was absolutely the filthiest ammo in my Colt I'd ever used. I swore I'd never use it again after spending an hour cleaning my beloved 1911.
Will Fennell
March 16, 2003, 11:12 PM
Do yourself a favor, if you are looking for affordable .45acp hardball, buy S&B. It has proven the BEST BUY over and over again. I have shot so much of it, with excellent results, that if I had to carry my 1911's with Hardball, I wouldn't hesitate to load my mags with S&B. Its that good.
denfoote
March 16, 2003, 11:29 PM
After having my "interesting" experience with Wolf ammo, my philosophy is commie ammo for commie guns!! Pistolet Makarova likes it, as does the SKS. Nothing else will be fed it!!
mec
March 17, 2003, 01:46 AM
you could be developing early extractor failure and maybe not. I know mine came with the extractor untensioned and not ready for firing. After proper tensioning, the inferior Springfield Armory extractor made it about 900 rounds, relaxed and quit working. Had to put a Wilson unit in.
cratz2
March 17, 2003, 03:34 AM
Mr. Fennell has the right answer... S&B bought in bulk is pretty affordable and is completely decent ammo.
By the way, my Mak doesn't even get Wolf. It gets Barnaul and LVE.
foghornl
March 17, 2003, 12:26 PM
With the hi-temp crazy glue that Wolf calls bullet-case sealer....
I have seen 2 broken extractors and a case stuck in a chamber to the point of beating it out with a dowel rod and hammer.
Wolf is OK for your Communist bock made weapons...NOT for your USA made stuff.
If you want inexpensive ball ammo, but don't like Blazer (aluminum cases...headstamped NR for NOT RELOADABLE) then I second the choice of Sellier & Bellot. I have also used the USA brand, frequently known as Winchester White Box. Federal's value brand "American Eagle" works for me, as well as the PMC brand.
Handy
March 17, 2003, 12:58 PM
I have used some Wolf in my 1911. It is one of the most accurate loads I've fired.
Aside from the red sealant, Wolf cases are laquered. I would consider soaking the barrel and extractor in thinner.
meathammer
March 17, 2003, 01:15 PM
Wolf=crap ammo.
Ditto. ;)
ocabj
March 17, 2003, 02:01 PM
If you want with inexpensive ammo, go with CCI Blazer. They work fine for me. I shoot CCI Blazer in 9mm, .45ACP, and .22LR.
I suggest you start reloading. I think a lot of people who start shooting .45ACP, stepping up from other calibers, begin to think about getting into reloading.
You end up shooting more for the same amount of money, but there is of course, the initial investment. Check out the RCBS Reloading Kits. The Single Stage kits come with almost everything you need to start reloading. All you need to get is the shell holders for the specific cailbers you want to reload, and the components (powder, primers, bullets). You'll not only find reloading to be fun, you will learn more about your specific weapon(s).
ocabj
March 17, 2003, 02:03 PM
On a side note, everyone swears by the Wolf Match Target .22LR ammunition. I'd try some, but none of the local dealers have them. Been sold out for months. I'll probably bend over and get a brick online.
Kruzr
March 17, 2003, 02:23 PM
iamhistory,
Now that you've gotten good advice about using Wolf centerfire ammo, IMO your problem is caused by a dirty chamber. The Wolf steel ammo has a lacquer coating on the cases which is supposed to help lubricate the case. When you get a build up of this lacquer on the chamber, it seems to stick to the lacquer on the casing (this happened on a Mini-14). If you only fire Wolf, it will build up on the chamber walls since it gets soft with heat. I won't use Wolf centerfire ammo anymore but those who I know who do, only use it occaisionally and always fire other ammo right after to help keep the chamber clean (so they say). To clean the chamber, soak the barrel in solvent making sure the chamber is submerged. Get a .50 cal bore brush and clean out the chamber. I think the problem will go away.
BTW, Wolf .22 Match ammo is made in Germany and is brass cased and its pretty good stuff.
dairycreek
March 17, 2003, 05:55 PM
I not only find it to be unreliable but also it is dirty, dirty, dirty! Someone said some unkind things about Blazer ammo but that, most defniitely, has not been my experience. Blazer yes! Wolf no! Good shooting;)
Lone Star
March 18, 2003, 09:40 AM
Well, if Wolf uses steel cases, just refer to the advice Jeff Cooper and others have given over the years re US 1943-made ammo with steel cases. Oil them lightly if you MUST fire them in a pistol. Basically save them for SMG use.
Lone Star
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