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Bob41081
May 4, 2005, 08:42 PM
I sitting here watching Lost and skimming the threads. The Iragi and John Locke are having a discussion and the Iragi threatened Locke with a Glock. The sound effects were that of a revover being cocked. It gave me a good laugh.

Bob

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ZeroX
May 4, 2005, 09:13 PM
Eh, what're you going to do? Most people need to be spoon-fed everything.

Justin
May 4, 2005, 09:56 PM
Oh no! Another over-zealous foley artist! :eek:

PMDW
May 4, 2005, 10:06 PM
If you didn't notice, he decocked it, too.

Also, Iraq is spelled with a q, not a g.

Dain Bramage
May 5, 2005, 10:58 AM
What was the pistol the sister used to shoot Locke later in the episode? It looked vaguely like a Glock with an exposed hammer. Was it a Sigma? It could have been the gun that Said (sp?) used earlier.

Gordon Fink
May 5, 2005, 11:01 AM
I don’t think the actor actually “de-cocked” the Glock, but since the shot was so tight, I could easily see him thumbing its non-existent safety, corresponding with the click-clack sound effects. That provoked a laugh from me too.

~G. Fink

MechAg94
May 5, 2005, 11:35 AM
I always love in the movies how they will pull a gun or rifle out and threaten someone, then to emphasize their deadly serious intent, they rack the slide, cycle the mechanism, or cock the hammer. It wouldn't be an issue if they were using a double action, but I see them do this with pump shotguns or assault rifles, yet they never show a round fall to the ground. I guess they were actually just supposed to be stupid and were threatening with an empty chamber. :) It seems this scenario is the standard in most TV and movies I see. That and holding the gun at full extension 6" from the other person who grabs it or knocks it aside. :rolleyes:

Indy7373
May 5, 2005, 11:37 AM
In Blade Trinity, when Jessica Beal aims a revolver at the chief, you can clearly hear the hammer being cocked, even though it doesn't move and remains down. Fun times. :D

Zundfolge
May 5, 2005, 12:10 PM
What was the pistol the sister used to shoot Locke later in the episode?

The "briefcase full of guns" has a couple of sigs, a Beretta M92 and a .380 that is either a PPK or a Sig 232 .... I believe the Sig the crazy sister used was a 226 .

PMDW
May 5, 2005, 12:11 PM
What was the pistol the sister used to shoot Locke later in the episode? It looked vaguely like a Glock with an exposed hammer. Was it a Sigma? It could have been the gun that Said (sp?) used earlier.

Sig.

I don’t think the actor actually “de-cocked” the Glock, but since the shot was so tight, I could easily see him thumbing its non-existent safety, corresponding with the click-clack sound effects.

Funny. Sounded like a trigger breaking and a hammer being lowered into place to me.

Mongo the Mutterer
May 5, 2005, 01:03 PM
One of my favorites is from "Man on Fire" with Denzel Washington. Good Flick by the way...

He tries to commit suicide with a Glock (19 if I remember). The 9mm misfires, and he ejects the shell to look at it. Nice round dimple in the primer.

You Glock guys will know what I mean... Glocks leave a rectangular mark in the primer.

There is another funny one later. Won't tell it because its a plot spoiler.

Good flick, rent or own it, you won't be dissatisfied.

Halffast
May 5, 2005, 01:15 PM
In Blade Trinity, when Jessica Beal aims a revolver at the chief, you can clearly hear the hammer being cocked, even though it doesn't move and remains down.


You were looking at the revolver?! :neener:

birddog
May 5, 2005, 01:30 PM
I like in Die Hard, where McLain hands Hans his (IIRC) 1911 and Hans points it at him and repeatedly pulls the trigger, sounding like a revolver being dry-fired on empty chambers. Funny stuff.

itgoesboom
May 5, 2005, 01:36 PM
I like in Die Hard, where McLain hands Hans his (IIRC) 1911 and Hans points it at him and repeatedly pulls the trigger, sounding like a revolver being dry-fired on empty chambers. Funny stuff.

Actually that was a Beretta 92, so that wasn't a movie mistake. The Beretta 92 can do that, since it is DA/SA.

I.G.B.

SLCDave
May 5, 2005, 03:14 PM
I mentioned that to my wife as soon as it happened, too.

Indy7373
May 5, 2005, 04:50 PM
You were looking at the revolver?!

Only in that scene. I must say I quite enjoyed the shower scene earlier. :D :neener:

BlkHawk73
May 5, 2005, 06:21 PM
The sound effects were that of a revover being cocked. It gave me a good laugh.


yup, I noticed that also. hey sometimes ya just gotta add that little extra drama.

longrifleman
May 6, 2005, 09:26 AM
Is anybody else rooting for the Pacific island polar bears !!! to have a big luau? Them people are so stupid they give stupid a bad name.

jason10mm
May 6, 2005, 09:33 AM
AS hokey as it was, the Van Damm movie "Double Impact" had a really neat scene where Van Damm, fighting the usual hordes of bad guys, grabs a dead BGs M9. He racks the slide (presumably because he is not sure if it is loaded or not) which ejects a round!

IIRC, in "Jason X", the girl in the begining racks a shotgun twice, ejecting a shell the second time.

I think directors and editiors add lots of "mechanical" sounds to firearms to A) draw the viewers attention to them, B) mask the fact that most on-set weapons are rubber, somehow they think that by making the gun rattle, it will "feel" more real to the viewer, and C) appease the moron viewer who thinks that ALL guns have a safety that has to be disengaged, a hammer that needs to be cocked, and a chamber that has to be loaded BEFORE any shooting can begin.

Hollywood never really gets ANYTHING right. Phones don't immediately go to a dial tone if someone hangs up on you, elevators don't keep closing if a guy snakes his arm through the doors, hot rich chicks don't stay single till they are 30, bullets in the shoulder can KILL/CRIPPLE you, police don't usually fall asleep when on patrol or guarding someone with active death threats against them, gas tanks do not routinely explode when shot, and air vents are NOT large enough to crawl through. But all of these things are an accepted part of the Hollywood universe and the poorly researched scripts that dwell therein.

Dain Bramage
May 6, 2005, 10:17 AM
bullets in the shoulder can KILL/CRIPPLE you

Funny, I was under the impression, from TV and movies, that the shoulder was just a big fat depository, kind of like a camel's hump. How else would it be the perfect place to get shot in one episode, and recover by the next with no ill effects whatsoever? It's not like it's got large bones, a major joint, muscles, tendons, or blood vessels.

And don't even get my union friend going on "Hollywood Duct". Just once he wants the sheet metal screws protruding inside to tear someone to shreds.

Justin
May 6, 2005, 10:24 AM
I think movies should be more like real life. I have this great idea for a movie where a guy gets up in the morning and goes into the office.

Then he sits there for about eight hours doing work. It would be shot in real-time, no editing, and it would use nothing but nat sound. It would be totally realistic.

BenW
May 6, 2005, 10:41 AM
I think movies should be more like real life.
Heh, I was just saying something similar to someone. I was getting a ration for liking JAG (hey -- Catherine Bell, I mean, come on). The person I was talking to said they never watch it because it's not true to life military. My response was, that if it was true to life, we'd be watching 47 minutes of people filling out Standard Forms, looking stuff up in the CFRs and UCMJ, trying to figure out how to get the hotel tax reimbursed on their travel voucher, and complaining that the office copier was jamming. :)

Rockrivr1
May 6, 2005, 10:59 AM
I seem to remember on the second or third show that Sawyer fired 5 or 6 times at one of the polar bears to kill it. He then automatically knew there was only one round left. Um, does anyone here know a law enforcement officer who doesn't carry with large capacity magazines? Thought that was kinda funny at the time.

Hate to admit it though, but I'm addicted to the damn show. :scrutiny:

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