Guns and cats


May 5, 2005, 04:31 PM
I have noticed a theme in the THR boards. Everyone has a cat! I have seen threads where almost everyone had a cat. Im not bad mouthing cats or anything, although I am allergic. But is there an explanation to the correlation between cats and gun people. Im just curious :D

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May 5, 2005, 04:48 PM
I have cats, but, then, I don't really have cats. My wife has 2 cats... I've liked shotguns for a while,a nd the best dog to me for shotgun companionship is a lab... I have a 13 1/2 year old that would still love to go out with me. Though we're considering a maine coon cat, which is kind of a mix of both worlds. But put me down first and foremost as a dog person.

May 5, 2005, 04:50 PM
I have a big, orange, mutt of a cat who likes to sit on my workbench while I clean my gun.

May 5, 2005, 04:51 PM
Cats like THR people better than the run of the mill folks, and thus keep them as pets. ;)

Rich K
May 5, 2005, 04:52 PM
I have 2 cats,or rather,they have me.But they are both affectionate and well behaved,so th4ey let me continue to live with them. :)

May 5, 2005, 04:58 PM
I do like dogs but no way could I have one (smaller townhouse, odd schedules, etc.)

I have a very nice diluted tortie cat -- used to share 'joint custody' of her w/exGF until she moved from the area.

Pastel is continually intriuged by Hoppe's #9, BreakFree and MPro7. I regard that as a pro-gun sentiment.

Bill Wiese
San Jose

May 5, 2005, 05:01 PM
anyone who thinks THEY have cats.... don't know much about cats !!!

May 5, 2005, 05:02 PM
Put me down on the list for having three feline companions. :) Fun animals sometimes. Oh yeah, and one dog that might as well be a cat :uhoh:

May 5, 2005, 05:05 PM
I have 2 Spoiled Rotten Cats. Both believe that they rule the household, 1 sleeps on top of one of my Gun cabinets and is always curious whenever I open it, like climbing in the cabinet to check out the guns. Both Cats were dropped in front of my House in an "I Love my Pets" box. Have had both of them now for 5-6 Years. :) :)

May 5, 2005, 05:07 PM
Most gun people I know are dog people, or would be if their wives didn't have or at least take care of cats. :)

May 5, 2005, 05:08 PM
i hate cats.
i have a black lab and a yellow lab, though.

May 5, 2005, 05:12 PM
I have a black lab and a redbone hound.

The redbone loves cats - he finds them delicious!

I don't like cats because I am severely allergic and far too many of them run wild and kill song and game birds.

Dirty Bob
May 5, 2005, 05:14 PM
The spoiled creature that rules the house in which my wife and I reside is offended by the word "cat." She prefers to be referred to as a "Feline American." ;)

Dirty Bob

Jeff Timm
May 5, 2005, 05:15 PM
Truly it is written, "Dog sees man as he could be, cat sees man as he is."

I note it is a closer corollery between computer users and cats, toss in VWs or Subarus as well.

Who is a professional geek, who is kept by two cats, who owns a Forester (for the wife, and a well proven Ford Aerostar van...boy am I a cliche'! :)

May 5, 2005, 05:18 PM
Dogs only in my house. I am highly allergic to cats.

May 5, 2005, 05:18 PM
We have a cat somewhere. She likes to roam around our property.

Cats are great because you feed them, and that is it. They even feed themselves sometimes, with mice and whatnot.

Speaking of which, anyone else's cat have kittens recently?

May 5, 2005, 05:22 PM
Six cats here on our place.

They live indoors and outdoors, as they please.

They keep me around to buy them cat food, and to provide a lap to sit on.

Almost too many cats to keep properly petted ;)

May 5, 2005, 05:28 PM
5 dogs, not cats.

May 5, 2005, 05:29 PM
Like many gun people, cats refuse to be bullied or coerced, are often very good hunters, their trust has to be earned, they do not look up at anyone with "adoring eyes", do not expect others to defend them, and can get along well with other, like-minded creatures. They don't "demand" respect as much as they ignore those who disrespect them - much as one who carries concealed must ignore - rise above- insults, taunts, and verbal abuse.

I've also noticed that cat people "get it" about restrictive laws that infringe only on the law-abiding; guns or cats (and the peta / "animal rights" people are always pushing more restrictive anit-pet, anti-cat, anti-dog laws) - the only people who are negatively impacted are the law-abiding; the criminals and irresponsible breeders are not affected.


May 5, 2005, 05:34 PM
I am a dog person. I plan on getting a big German Shepard when I move out of my townhouse.

May 5, 2005, 05:50 PM
Another cat person here. Three-year-old Maine Coon mix, and she's a Maine native (adopted her from the Humane Society in Bangor).

Dogs have masters; cats have staff.

May 5, 2005, 06:32 PM
I'm a dog person. I've never officially owned a cat, but I've been nice to a few that liked hanging around my place. They probably belonged to my neighbors, but found more to kill and eat in our yard. Other than catching rats/mice, they don't seem to be very useful and being somewhat allergic to them, I don't really need their affection. One cat that really stuck around a long time and didn't seem to have another home got hit by a car. He used to ram his head against our door like a goat. I really think he was insane.

May 5, 2005, 06:40 PM
I own neither, but prefer dogs.
Do you know how to make a cat float? (Answer below)
I'm not really sure, but I think you start with scoop of ice cream. :neener:

May 5, 2005, 06:48 PM
they do not look up at anyone with "adoring eyes"
Well, mine do! I guess it's all in how you treat them ;)

But I agree with the rest of what you said, Bobcat, and have noticed the same similarities between cats and my own way of thinking: they are independent and don't tolerate any BS.

AZ Heat
May 5, 2005, 07:00 PM
Guns and cats Funny... I thought this was going to be going a completely different direction. In my neck of the woods, guns and cats go together but in another way. Since there are quite a few cat lovers here, I'll not speak further of it.

May 5, 2005, 07:27 PM
I'm a cat person, but I need canine companionship. I will be taking care of that when I get home.

Old Fuff
May 5, 2005, 07:36 PM
There are at least two cats that keep Preacherman for a pet ....

(Go ahead - look up the threads ...)

May 5, 2005, 07:53 PM
We have a 2 cat and a 1 dog maximum at our house. Works for us. The cats remind me how quiet and sneaky you have to be to hunt without weapons.

Dogs have Masters.
Cats have Staff. :D

May 5, 2005, 08:05 PM
Tallpine, BobCat, you're my kind of people. We currently have 6 (have had as many as 13 at one time) of the most delightful companions. The most recent is a 5 week-old who was found lying in the road in front of our house. She is currently the "queen of the lap" among the human members of the household. The feline members (who outnumber the humans 2:1) have yet to pass judgement. I'm sure all will work out, as there is power in numbers.

Hi, I'm garyk/nm and I am a cat person.

Larry Ashcraft
May 5, 2005, 08:09 PM
My black, half Siamese tomcat, Clyde, helps me surf the net and insists on being petted when I am reloading. The other three cats are Revlis, Jack and Jill.

All our cats are fixed, but none are de-clawed. Country cats need to be armed. ;)

M2 Carbine
May 5, 2005, 08:30 PM
I've got a dog and 8 or 9 cats. I'm not sure about the 9th, he's a stray that comes and goes.

I've had dogs and cats for about 40 years.

Every animal has a different personality. Like people but without the nasty side. :)

Now they are the only family.
They keep me company, busy, entertained and alive.

Ben Shepherd
May 5, 2005, 08:38 PM
Sorry to rain on your sunshine folks but I can't stand the little buggers!!!!

Lets see:
Cat hair all over my back deck? Yep
Cat hair all over my patio furniture? Yep
Coughed up hairball ON my patio table? Yep
Cat poop in the garden area? Yep

AND I DON'T EVEN OWN A D*#M CAT!!!! :banghead: :cuss:

For those that take care of there cats correctly(which includes most if not all of our members, given our sense of personal responsibility) you are exempt from the above rant.

May 5, 2005, 09:08 PM
My beloved cat died suddenly last month, three days after her ninth birthday. She began having respiratory distress, we took her emergently to the vet and she died within 30 minutes of arrival. The vet thinks she had a pulmonary embolism and there was nothing that could have been done.

Some neighbors across the street had moved six months ago and abandoned a cat. The young cat was living a semi-feral existence in the neighborhood but liked to spend her time on our front porch where I would pet her frequently. Our former cat was very much a one cat per household animal and would not allow any other cats in the house. So after she died, my wife and I discussed it, and we moved the semi-feral cat into our house. She has been with us for about two weeks now and is adjusting very well to being a house cat. So we once again have two dogs and one cat in the MillCreek household. I have had both cats and dogs for almost my entire life.

May 5, 2005, 09:10 PM
My nineteen pound cat is sitting (lounging) on my lap as I type. He puts my legs to sleep, but he is a lover.

May 5, 2005, 09:19 PM
Definately a dog person here............. unfortunately, I have the one dog that thinks shes a person. (

May 5, 2005, 09:33 PM
No cats, allergies won't allow for it. I do have 3 black labs though. One is a princess, another the queen, and the third a retrieving machine.

May 5, 2005, 09:33 PM
Ben...a bit of zen to ponder, if you wish to remove the stray cats form your home..get your own cat, grasshopper.

4v50 Gary
May 5, 2005, 09:39 PM
I like cats & dogs. But living in a small house and being lazy, I don't want pets. Goldfish are more my speed. If I want to go somewhere, I can set it free - in the toilet. It's just one flush to freedom. :eek: BTW, plants also wilt in my presence. :uhoh:

Standing Wolf
May 5, 2005, 09:41 PM
I told my kitty she can have a gun of her own when she earns the money to pay for it. No socialist parasites in this household, by the gods!

Kendra Pacelli
May 5, 2005, 09:47 PM
I have a cat. Had the cat prior to liking guns, so, he stayed well after. Oleg took some pics of cat sleeping on gun....

Not sure what the connection is..... :rolleyes:

May 5, 2005, 09:54 PM
what you tolerate, you validate; what you put up with, - YOU DESERVE!

Unlike dogs, which are servile and will return to those who beat them, cats are far more independent and aloof. They WILL look at you with adoring eyes, but only after you've earned their trust and love. Abuse them and they will retaliate, leave - or both.

In short - a "companion animal" that RETURNS respect. ;)

May 5, 2005, 10:44 PM
Definately a dog person here............. unfortunately, I have the one dog that thinks shes a person. Dogs think they're human. Cats know they are.

El Rojo
May 5, 2005, 10:49 PM
The only good cat is a...nevermind. :evil:

May 5, 2005, 10:51 PM
One of my favorite Anchorage gunshops has a couple of "gunshop cats" that protect the place from vermin. My favorite Texan gunsmith always had a shop cat or two. Sort of makes the place seem homey. One of the finest class III dealers I ever dealt with has a whole herd of the little fellers. I have one that enjoys helping when I work on guns. He usually tries to inspect the small parts for me.

For Ben Shepard, regarding hair on the deck and furniture, our Springer Spaniel and the neighbor dogs leave larger piles of hair and poop to deal with so I don't appreciate any canine advantage there. Maybe if you got a color coordinated watch cat that matched your furniture, he would chase those enemy cats away and solve your foreign cat problems.

May 5, 2005, 11:05 PM
THR on the screen, cat on keyboard.

Larry Ashcraft
May 5, 2005, 11:12 PM

I swear, that cat is the twin to my Clyde!

Revlis & Clyde:

May 5, 2005, 11:18 PM
Tubby and Gizmo walked into the room just now, glanced at the screen, rolled the skin on their backs, twitched their tails, sniffed, sighed and walked out. :neener:

May 5, 2005, 11:21 PM
4 Humans

1 Cat

2 Dogs

3 Chelonians (one turtle and two tortoises)

4 Lizards

7 Snakes (down from a high of about 75)

28 Mice (approximate count of the live ones, lord knows how many are in the freezer - snake food mostly)

1 Shotgun

8 pistols/revolvers (as far as I can remember and will admit to)

9 rifles (also as far as I can remember and will admit to)

15,000 plus rounds of ammunition, of which 100 or so are CB caps just in case those mice get loose and the cat and dogs get tired catching them.

Just figured I'd tie it in a bit more to guns.

Best regards,
Glenn B

Old Dog
May 5, 2005, 11:21 PM
Huh? Cats? No cats here ... the two large German Shepherds that run my house hate cats! (I too that most gun people were "dog people.")

May 5, 2005, 11:30 PM
We can never seem to get below four cats in the household. As soon as one passes away or otherwise leaves, my wife or daughter finds another to replace it.

The last addition was actually approved by me. A friend of my wife had this cat, and his paw was hurt. She let him limp around for 3 weeks before finally saying something to my wife about it. I offered to pay for a Vet visit, but under the condition that he come live with us-I didn't want him staying with someone who would not properly care for him.

May 5, 2005, 11:58 PM
I have seen or known quite a few cat lovers who were liberal idiots.

May 6, 2005, 12:04 AM
So since this thread is probably on its way to being shut down, allow me to ask: what the heck is your point? I have seen some pretty big idiots, both liberals and conservatives and it did not matter one bit whether they loved or hated cats. Were you trying to imply something about the political convictions and intelligence of people who love cats? If so, what a shame; the discussion has gone to the dogs!

All the best,
Glenn B

May 6, 2005, 12:09 AM
We (my wife and I) have cats also! I love all animals.But only own cats!I would have thaught that most gun owners would be dog lovers!But I own Cats and Guns!

May 6, 2005, 12:13 AM
the other white meat.

I can't believe no one said that before.

I am kidding though. I don't have any dogs or cats now, but when my kids were young I had a whole housefull....cats and dogs, that is....only 4 kids...........honest.

M2 Carbine
May 6, 2005, 12:49 AM
I'll throw this in.
Do you think you are tough?
Odds are you aren't near as tough as one of my cats, Maggie.

She was one of my "barn cats", just a little wild.
I noticed her limping and it looked like a Mesquite thorn in her paw.
I couldn't get it, so I took her to the Vet. Big bill and they said they got a thorn out.

Over the next couple weeks she still favored the paw a little but still climbed trees, etc
After a couple weeks she still favored the paw a little so I took her back to the Vet and told him there's got to be something wrong with her paw.

When I picked her up, that evening, the Vet said, You aren't going to believe this.
For two weeks she had a Mesquite thorn in her paw that was so long it extended up into her wrist joint. The vet had to cut open the top of her leg to get it out.

How would you like having a 4 or 5 inch long thorn up through your palm into your wrist for 2 weeks. :eek:
I ain't that tough. :(

I kept Maggie in the house for a couple days to let her heal. She thought that beat barn living, so she moved in.

May 6, 2005, 03:19 AM
Cats? Cats and guns?

You mean like these cats (

Or these ones (

:fire: :cuss: :banghead:

:evil: :D :neener:

May 6, 2005, 04:16 AM
1 20lb cat - Mauzer the Hut

1 14 y/o Black Lab - Spike (aka Spikeula, Dog of Darkness)

1 2 y/o cockeyed Black Lab - Larry

1 1 y/o mixed something or other - Sadie the Incredibly Stupid

May 6, 2005, 04:40 AM

To those that joke about shooting cats. I'm a big fan of equal rights, non-discrimination, etc You shoot my cat(s), I shoot you. ;)

(Every cat that's ever kept me have been inside cats. So if someone shoots a cat in my house, there's some explaining to do. Or just an ATF inspection.)

Mongo the Mutterer
May 6, 2005, 05:59 AM
Good Grief.

It's amazing how many people either love or hate cats. I guess I love em'.

We have three, two boys and a queen. They allow us to live with them. It's a ball.

I read once that pets make you live a longer, better life. I agree.

Fred Fuller
May 6, 2005, 06:30 AM

Not EVERYONE at THR has cats... there are two dogs here at The Minor, a Brittany spaniel and a Fila Brasileiro. Neither of them tolerate cats, and the Brittany won't even let birds stay in the yard very long.


May 6, 2005, 07:46 AM
Ailurophile here. 3 strictly indoor cats, none declawed, 2 males & 1 female, all spayed/neutered, and all were "throwaways." The big guy runs and hides whenever guns appear. I guess he thinks they're bigger versions of the "bad kitty" squirt bottle. The other male couldn't care less and would probably try to chew on them if I let him. The female loves hanging out inside my gun bench.
I think BobCat summed up the similarities between cats & gun people pretty well.
I like dogs, but one hasn't come my way yet. I can't go to the pound looking for one because I'd try to bring everything home. You know what they say about us gun women: cold steel = warm heart. :p

May 6, 2005, 07:49 AM
I have had cats all of my life, most had jobs to do and did them fairly well. When I was kid and lived in the country, we had a big siamese who kept rodents and such out of the house, now that I am city folk, we have a smaller one who keeps bugs out of the house, he is pretty good to.

I respect them for what they are, the most effeciant killers on land. people see a 30 pound dog and think "how cute" people see a 30 pound cat and think "OMG don't let it eat me!"

May 6, 2005, 08:01 AM
I had a BEAUTIFUL sweet black cat -- even her whiskers and gums were black. I lost her in the divorce. My ex put her to sleep one month after the judge dropped the gavel.

Luckily, I am a forgiving man.

Hopefully, when I buy a house this summer, 2dWife and I will get another cat.

May 6, 2005, 08:21 AM
My ex put her to sleep one month after the judge dropped the gavel.
Now that's just wrong. Sad...and wrong.

Zach S
May 6, 2005, 08:31 AM
But is there an explanation to the correlation between cats and gun people. Yes. I'm a gun person, which is pretty obvious since I hang out here.

What isn't obvious is that I have a eleven year old sister, she has a cat.

May 6, 2005, 08:35 AM
I have a love-hate relationship with cats. I like cats that are friendly and will sit with you and be petted on the couch. I really dislike mean cats that are antisocial and don't like anyone around.

I have dogs, though.. they are the best friends.

May 6, 2005, 08:48 AM
We have two. I was never a cat guy, but this one is my favorite. He is very dog-like. He always runs up to you when you get home - likes to be petted and held (but doesn't rub against you like a cat) -He runs TO noise and action (especially to the window when there is activity outdoors)- and he is smart beyond belief. If I do something - he will try to do it (including: answering the phone -turning the door knob -unlocking locks). He's a very lovable busy body. The best part is that he will let the kids carry him around like a doll and loves the attention they give him.

May 6, 2005, 08:51 AM
Oh, heck, I guess I need to read the titles more closely. When I went to this thread, I thought the topic was "Guns for cats" . . . you know, like "Guns for elk" or "Guns for rhino" . . . what a disappointment. :(

Besides my allergies, I don't like cats and don't like them pooping and peeing all over my garden, patio, etc. I have no problem with cat owners who keep their cats indoors, but there's a certain class of cat people who let their cats run loose so OTHER people have to put up with their %$#@! animal's nuisance behavior . . . and they come up with all manner of excuses when they argue that that's OK. :cuss: :fire:

May 6, 2005, 09:17 AM
First of all, to keep this gun-related: based on their purrsonalities and the characteristics of various guns, what sidearm would *your* cat(s) carry, if they had thumbs?

As I've said before, Mr. Earl would have carried a Browning Highpower - one of the deep blue ones from the 1960-1970 time frame, not a parkerized one like mine.

Bastet would have carried a Smith Model 36 - Chief's Special. About the minimum size in a reliable caliber -.38 special - for someone who never expected to *need* it, but would not go unarmed by choice.

Texas Highway 36 carries a Glock 19 - because it is popular and everyone told him it was a good choice.

Zippy has a shorty AR15 carbine, with a three-position stock and Jewel trigger (just to keep the trigger pull the same as *my* AR).

I'll stop now.


They *do* look into my eyes and let me "know they care" - but not with the adoring look I've gotten from dogs. I like most dogs, grew up with dogs, not cats; but I'm not adorable and in makes me uncomfortable to see that look in anyone's eyes.

And - for those who do not want cat excrement in their flower beds, a tip: orange peels or lemon peels. Or call the neighbors and tell them to come clean up the mess or you call animal control.


May 6, 2005, 09:23 AM
<---- Not a big fan.

Actually, I love cats. Anyone want to trade recipies? :cuss:

May 6, 2005, 09:29 AM
My girl has a cat I got from the pound for her birthday. It's worthless but it keeps her happy. I love my dogs, all of them are rescue animals. 1 lab which I posted her story on the roundtable.(BRING IT BACK) A lab mutt she is the smartest dog I have. Last but not least Coolio a malimute husky mix.... buy far the dumbest dog I have ever met but extremly protective.

Cats are good for chinese resturants. :neener: :evil:

May 6, 2005, 09:33 AM
BTW, one or more of our cats sometimes go on walks with us, up to a mile from the house and back. You should see people's faces as they drive by on the county road seeing my wife and I and a dog and a cat or two accompanying us. The cats are pretty smart, and get way off the road when a car comes along.

Gun related: I carry a 357 mag Security Six when walking my cats. :p

"Odie" is on my lap right now purring and reaching his front paws out to my neck and face. :) He is a neutered male and is the best hunter of our cat herd.

Mongo the Mutterer
May 6, 2005, 09:45 AM
Okay, YOU tell them there isn't any food left.

1911 guy
May 6, 2005, 10:09 AM
They taste like possum.

May 6, 2005, 10:17 AM
Nah... dog is much better...more meat, a larger target, and easy to call in. Tender Vittle cage raised puppy is the best though. :neener:

M2 Carbine
May 6, 2005, 10:26 AM
When I'm in my gun shop, reloading, cleaning guns, whatever, I usually leave the door open.
Some of my cats like to explore through the place.
Mo, one of the house cats, has a thing about my range box. :D

He also likes shooting and comes running over whenever he sees me with a gun and setting up targets. (backyard range)
I've got to lock him up to keep him out of the way. :)

May 6, 2005, 10:26 AM
Wife & I have always had several cats throughout our 25 yrs together.

Presently there are 5, plus 1 dog.

We have a 6 ft privacy fence around the back yard with plastic drain pipe hung just below the top to keep the cats from climbing escapes in 2 yrs now. Our town has a law against wandering cats.

All of ours over the years have been foundlings, and none have been declawed. My wife worked for a vet for 5 yrs and thinks declawing is cruel; they essentially amputate their toes with nippers.

You're either a pet lover or you're not...I'm happy to have ours in our life.

May 6, 2005, 11:25 AM
I'm a cat liker & a dog lover.

We would have a cat or two around the house, but our male German Shorthaired Pointer is a cat in he thinks they taste delicoious.

Our female GSP would play with & not kill cats if left by herself. Aound the male, though, pack instinct takes over & she becomes a cat-killin' sidekick.

Too bad, as we'd like to have another furball-of-love around hte house.

May 6, 2005, 11:52 AM
Keeping this firearms related, I killed a neighbor's dog that killed one of our cats. The bastard came right up on our porch and killed the kitten right on our doorstep, didn't just happen to chase it down as dogs are apt to do.

I can testify that 7.62*39 is pretty effective on dogs :evil:

(BTW, we also have 4 dogs in the household right now)

May 6, 2005, 01:11 PM
Keeping this firearms related, I killed a neighbor's dog that killed one of our cats. The bastard came right up on our porch and killed the kitten right on our doorstep, didn't just happen to chase it down as dogs are apt to do.

I can testify that 7.62*39 is pretty effective on dogs

How'd it taste?

May 6, 2005, 01:47 PM
I am very much a cat lover.
While I haven't had a problem with the neighbors dogs, I have had an issue with coyotes and some wild dogs that seem to run with them. Just about every other day I have to take some pot shots at them to keep them away.

M2 Carbine
May 6, 2005, 01:56 PM
While shooting at the club range, some time back, a few month old Doberman was running around.
Why anyone would dump a pretty, obviously full bred Doberman off I don't know but it was full of ticks and hunger.
My buddy already had 5 or 6 Jack Terriers but he took the dog home, cleaned her up, had her fixed and his wife named her Kimber.

Now, to say the least, the dog is VERY impressive.

Funny thing is she loves cats.
A couple kittens (probably dumped off) showed up in his yard. You would think that big dog would have just just killed those cats but she just took possession of them.
Not just those kittens but the dog tries to make friends with any cat that wanders into the yard.
Of course seeing that monster heading for it scares most cats into running. :D

May 6, 2005, 01:58 PM
How'd it taste?
You'd have to ask the coyotes and ravens :p

May 6, 2005, 02:27 PM
Till the dogs ate 'im. (C. W. Mcall) :D


Sean T
May 6, 2005, 03:04 PM
Used to have 2 cats, though 1, Boots, died almost 2 years ago at the age of 12. He had a golf-ball size tumor in his colon, which essentially blocked it off, which means he couldn't defecate. He was in a lot of pain, it was also untreatable so I had to put him to sleep. He was a real hunter boy, he caught a live bird once (I have no idea how he did it) and brought inside as proud as he could be. He broke it's leg in the pursuit, and dropped it on the floor and proceeded to bat at it with his paw, the bird would then fly around the room :what: and land and then he would bat at it again a nd it would fly around until finally it flew outside.

Still have the other one, Dexter Manley, who is 14 and declawed, so I escort her around our backyard whenever she wants to go outside. I wouldn't say she's defenseless though, as her bodyguard (me) carries a Beretta 92G Elite 9mm loaded with 16 rounds of CCI/Speer 124 gr. +P gold dots and a spare mag loaded with 10 Rem. 124 gr. +P golden sabres. The only thing she chases after are lizards, she has caught a few; she could care less about birds. Although when they see her they fly away in a hurry! She is very territorial, and gets extremely upset when she sees any cat in her yard (hissing and growling), so we don't let her look anymore. Boots loved other cats, completely opposite reaction from Dexter. This leads me to believe that males just want to hump the females, and the females want to fight every cat they see.

She is rather indifferent about my guns, she will give it a few snifffs then go on about her business, which is either sleeping or eating.

May 6, 2005, 03:19 PM
Just remember when you're eatin' dogs, the blue skinned one are pretty tough and chewy so you pretty much have to boil or bake them. The pink skinned dogs are nice and tender and can be fried. My little helpers told me this a long time ago in a land far away.

May 6, 2005, 03:31 PM
We used to have a male wolf hybrid who just loved our kitties. He would share his food with them - stand back and let them eat first.

When we had to move to town for a while, the dogs were tied in the yard but the kitty ran loose. She would get in a tangle with some old rough tough neighborhood cat, and come running home and stop in range of the dog's chain. The other cat would be ready to eat our kitty, then the wolf-mix stood up - oops! :D

I swear our little kitty was grinning over that. I think she baited them into our yard. (None ever got hurt though - they just ran away as fast as possible)

May 6, 2005, 04:19 PM
I could pretty much dupe HankB's rant and just substitute "dogs". With the exception that I don't have any particular animus toward dogs in general.

Don't like 'em crapping in my yard, digging in my plant beds, knocking over the garbage cans, or barking all damn night because some shmuck doesn't want to get up early to take it out to whiz, so he ties it out in the yard.

Either way, dog or cats, the root of the nuisance factor is basically some human who's not willing to be a responsible caretaker. It's my firm opinion that many of these same folks don't know how to raise kids either, as can be verified by anyone who's tried to watch a movie in a theater or have a quiet meal in a restaurant lately.

May 6, 2005, 04:38 PM
mainmech48 . . . can't fault your logic. Though I like dogs, people shouldn't let Fido run around loose, bark all night, etc. and in general, be a nuisance to the neighbors.

FWIW, in my neighborhood, loose dogs aren't a problem . . . loose cats ARE.

May 6, 2005, 06:48 PM
Hey Larry,
Maybe we split up two pairs of twins. Here's cookie watching a squirrel rob the bird feeder:

May 6, 2005, 07:38 PM
Cats on my property are property of my dogs. I got tired of the neighborhood cats destroying my wife's flowerbeds and veg. gardens, killing the birds that I attract to my yard with birdfeeders and sunning themselves on the leather seat of my Harley.

May 6, 2005, 07:45 PM
A dog's mind: "He feeds me, he loves me.......he must be god"

A cat's mind: "he feeds me, he loves me.......I must be god!"

C'mon......who here wouldn't love to have retractable claws to augment your favorite carry piece.

May 6, 2005, 08:07 PM
You mean to tell me all this talk of cats and dogs and no one besides me will admit to owning any reptiles! Oh well. A few things here have got me to thinking, but the funniest is this one:


the other white meat.

I can't believe no one said that before.

You do not know how untrue that is. if you have ever eaten small spare ribs in a certain type of ethnic restaurant you would realize they are not really a "white" meat as is pork, although they are often substituted for pork spareribs in certain ethnic cuisine. Think this is BS, no it is not.

I once sat outside of the MDC (Metropolitan Correction center - a federal lockup in NYC) waiting to have them accept two prisoners from us. There was myself, another agent, and one prisoner in our car, two agents and another prisoner in the other car. We watched as a person of certain ethnic origin made his way along the street rather rapidly toard a certain famous ethnic area in NYC while carrying something that was covered by newspaper. As the breeze blew, a bit of the something under the paper was exposed and looked to me like a Have-A-Heart trap. I joked to the prisoner that he was probably taking a cat home for dinner.

Just about at that moment, he met two other people of the same ethnic persuasion who were walking in the opposite direction. He began to speak to them, pointed to the thing under the newspaper and then rubbed his belly as if to say: MMMMM, MMMM GOOD! The others look as if they became excited and started to bend toward the thing in the first guy's hands. The guy lifted the newspaper and low and behold it was a big hissing/spitting cat. He again rubbed his belly, laughed, and hurriedly made of toward that ethnic neighborhood ( I don't know if he was putting on a show for us because he figured we were watching, or if he had caught that cat to catch rats or mice in his apartment or store, or if it really was to become dinner. I do know that some of the ribs I have eaten have been mighty small but oh so good. True story as stereotypical as it may seem (from either point of view). Always makes me laugh, especially when I don’t know if he did that just to get a rise out of us or was just expecting some good eats that day! After all, they eat a lot of things, in other places, that we do not usually consider table fare here. Sort of makes my mouth water and my trigger finger itch.

Sleeping Dog
May 6, 2005, 10:41 PM


chris in va
May 7, 2005, 02:03 AM
Wow, quite a response after only 3 days.

I used to be a dog person, but it took two stray cats to convince me dogs are just too much maintenance for my lifestyle.

No more cleaning up crap in the back yard, no more dogsitters, no more incessant barking at absolutely nothing, no more huge food more mandatory dog walks or "oh my God my dog got loose" worries. I don't have to deal with possible lawsuits from neighbors that 'just want to pet the doggie'.

Funny thing is, I was severely allergic to cats all my life. I mean my face would blow up and sneezing so hard I couldn't breathe. I swore up and down no WAY no HOW I would keep this longhair orange tabby that said 'hi' one day outside. A month later I was cured of my cat allergies...

Oh and you anti-cat guys, having been on both sides of the fence I have to clear something up for you. In my mind there are two types of cats. One kind does whatever it wants, kills birds, pisses on your bed, hisses and swipes at you, hides under beds for no apparent reason and is spooked just by looking at someone. Certain breeds are prone to this behavior and I hate them with a passion.

Then you have the OTHER type. These cats will purr just looking at you, hop in your lap for a belly rub, absolutely refuse to do anything mean to you no matter what YOU do, meow strangely when you're not around and generally keep you entertained and relaxed. Very rarely some (like mine) will enjoy baths, getting their nails clipped and don't mind a haircut. Check out the unofficial breed called Ragdoll or Ragamuffin...

The only thing I do miss about a dog is the alerting to strangers. My GSD would let us know if something wasn't quite right outside the house.

May 7, 2005, 03:07 AM
None of my cats are too curious about guns lying on the table. At least not anymore. One of my cats, Malla, saw a bottle of Hoppes, stuck her snout into it and sniffed. She closed her eyes to slits and backed off the table so fast she did a backflip when her hind legs ran out of table.

Malla, Sly (click for another). (

A couple of years ago Malla pulled open one of my dresser drawers (all my cats figured that out quick--I curse and respect their ingenuity) and actually pulled this pellet gun up and out of the drawer. I came home and found her rolling around on the floor with it.

They know how to open 2 closets (one sliding, one hinged door), all the low-level cabinets, the bottom row of drawers in my dressers and they even figured out how to pull open the shutters on all the windows AND tilt the slats so they can see out! If my door handles weren't round I have no doubt they'd have figured that out too.

May 7, 2005, 07:48 AM
This is my gun loving cat Fritz. I think he may be God's joke on me. I had to put my big Lab-Newfie down last year and this thing came into our lives as a 8 tenths of a pound flea hotel. I found him in the road ditch, he sometimes is refered to as "you son of the ditch." He has filled a void around here.{994B27E1-FCA3-4668-9BB1-4E05354B928F}/picture.JPG
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:neener: :evil:

May 7, 2005, 10:54 AM
My cat thinks my FNC is hers...

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