Progressive Rifling and Velocity


PDA
Snowdog
May 6, 2005, 10:18 PM
Quick question: did the progressive rifling found in old cap and balls such as the 1858 Remington affect velocity at all?

If you enjoyed reading about "Progressive Rifling and Velocity" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
mec
May 6, 2005, 11:10 PM
Tend to doubt it but there's really no way to know for certain without shooting an original or deeming the pietta -made progressive rifled target arms to be the equivalent of the originals. There are really too many variables- the performance of original powder and the different dimensions of the revolvers would probably be more important than the twist.

Jim Taylor, a writer with New Gun Week and others found that original remingtons had .452 chamber throats. Current Uberti's are usually 440" while piettas seem to run even smaller at .448-49. One writer reported very small groups with his gain twist pietta 58 target model the the difference in what he reported and what I get with my uberti replicas is not something I would be able to judge with my own bench rest shooting.

unspellable
May 7, 2005, 02:13 PM
I would expect any difference in velocity to be small enough to be obscured by all the other variables.

On the other hand, I wonder if it would be an accuracy advantage in a cap & ball revolver. The ball builds up a good speed before it hits the rifling and has a relatively small bearing area in the rifling. Starting the spin gradually might be easier on it. Does any one know if there is any problem with a ball skipping the rifling in a revolver? Might have something to do with every one reporting better accuracy in modern cap & ball revolvers with less than full house loads.

Are there any theories on why some of the old timers had gain twist?

If you enjoyed reading about "Progressive Rifling and Velocity" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!