Six handguns only - What would YOU pick?

[The Viking]

Hi, I will probably take up shooting again this fall, and apply for my first license as soon as possible. The problem I have is that I can get only six handguns without going through walls of red tape. So, what would you pick?
(Smallframed pistols such as Kel-Tec P32 are probably big no-no)

[enfield303]

What are you going to be using them for?

[Krag]

Glock 17, Para-Ordnance 18.9 LDA, Beretta Elite, S&W K22, S&W M686-Plus and Para-Ordnance Limited HiCap. :uhoh:

[The Viking]

Well, I'm not really in the know of handguns, nor competition with them. My only experience with firearms are .22 caliber rifles and side-by-side shotguns. But lets say that I want to cover as much as possible. (I know about steeltarget shooting, sounds like fun). Dont need a carry piece.

[Dionysusigma]

In my opinion:

A .357/.38 revolver, 3" barrel, Smith and Wesson or Colt
A 1911A1, by Colt or Springfield Armory
A Glock in your preference of caliber and size
A .22 autoloader, preferably a Walther P22 or Beretta 87 Target

Whatever else you like :)

All above are decent pistols of good size and reliability. Ammo is easy to find, and recoil isn't too bad. If needed, they can be used for defense. They have a decent "Cool Factor" as well, since many movies feature them.

[Checkman]

1.) A good 22LR handgun. Maybe a Sig Trailside,Browning Buckmark or perhaps a S&W or Ruger.

2.) A 9mm semi-auto My personal preference is for the Sig-Sauer P226 or the
P228/229. But Glock, Beretta, H&K and Browning all make good 9mm's as well.

3.) A .357 magnum revolver. Manuhrin, Ruger, S&W, Taurus. Either the 4" or 6" barrel. Stainless steel or blue carbon steel - your choice.

4.) A Sig Sauer 232 in either .380 or 32 acp. Maybe a Walther PPK.

5.) A Ruger Blackhawk in .357. Just becasue.

6.) A good quality 45acp semi-auto. Ruger,Sig,H&K,Kimber,Beretta. Your choice.

[Lord Bodak]

Well, I have exactly six, so I guess I've already picked.

1) Ruger 22/45
2) H&K USP Compact .40
3) Bersa Thunder .380
4) Ruger GP-100 4" .357
5) CZ-52
6) Springfield 1911

The only handgun I still kinda want is a snubby, maybe an SP-101. But if I couldn't have anymore, I think I'd be pretty happy with what I have.

[larry starling]

My six choices in no order of coarse!
1.Colt Python SS 4 inch barrel!
2.Colt Special combat nickel and blue!
3.Colt Goldcup SS again!
4.Colt XSE 5inch SS!
5.Colt WW1 repro!
6.Colt Gunsite!

Those are my choices, but im a little biased! :evil:

[Vern Humphrey]

1. A .22. Everyone should have a .22 pistol. I recommend the Ruger and Browning automatics. For a revolver, you may choose a S&W or a Ruger Single-Six, but one "sleeper" is the Ruger SP 101 -- it makes a great practice pistol for the SP 101 in .357 Magnum.

2. A good concealable revolver is nice to have. Mine is a Colt Detective Special (no longer made) in .38 Special, but the Ruger SP 101 in .357 Magnum with a 3" barrel would be superb.

3. An M1911 pistol in .45 ACP is a choice for a carry gun no one can sneeze at -- mine is a Kimber Custom Classic.

4. A hunting gun suitable for big game. Mine are a Colt New Service (again, no longer made) and a Ruger Blackhawk. Both in .45 Colt. With proper handloads, the New Service will drive a 255 grain bullet about 1000 fps. The Ruger will take stiffer loads and beat that by 300 or more fps.

5. A larger .357 magum is also a good choice -- for hunting, general woods carry, and so on. The bigger guns are easier to hold and shoot accurately. The .357 can use .38 Special ammo -- I have a Colt M357 and a Colt Single Action Army, both in .357 and mostly shoot .38 special reloads (148 grain wadcutter bullet, 2.7 grains of Bullseye). This load gives gilt edge accuracy, and kills squirrels and other small game like the Hammer of Thor. For larger game or self defense, full charge .357s are idea.

These 5 just about cover the spectrum of all uses -- from training and small game, through concealed carry and big game hunting.

[Black Majik]

1) A 1911. Colt, Springfield Armory or Kimber would fill this role easily.
2) A .45 not in 1911 platform. A Sig Sauer P220 comes to mind very quickly.
3) A .22 plinker. Ruger MKII, P22, Trailslide, etc...
4) A midsize revolver in .38/.357 . I would think the S&W 686 or Ruger GP100
5) A 9mm pistol. If you didn't take advice number 2, then go for the full size Sig in 9mm!
6) A pocket gun. Kahr PM9 would be my choice. How bout a Rohrbaugh.

Honorable mention: Get yourself a Glock, for when all your other guns fall apart. :D

[Onmilo]

1. S&W M41 .22lr

2. S&W 317 .22lr revlver, a gift from my wife.

3. Glock 26 9mm

4. Glock 34 9mm

5. S&W 629 5" Classic heavy barrel .44 magnum, can do everything but rimfire with this one.

6. Springfield 1911 Pro Tactical .45 acp, I like the accessory rail.

[warriorsociologist]

1) S&W 1006
2) Glock 29

3) S&W 686-4 6"
4) S&W 642

5) S&W 3913
6) Ruger MK-II 6-7/8"

7)* Glock 19 to swap for one of the above...

I own these 7 and many others have come and gone. I'd like to pick up a S&W 696, a 5.5" Redahawk in .45LC, a 6.5" S&W 629 Classic Hunter, and another MK-II to round things out (again)...then I'll be happy.

:cool:

[357wheelgunner]

1. S&W model 60 .357 J-Frame- target practice
2. S&W model 642 .38 J-frame- deep (pocket/ankle) CCW
3. S&W model 65 4" .357 K-frame- daily CCW (IWB)
4. S&W model 66 4" .357 K-frame- target practice

this way you can buy all sorts of holsters and speedloaders and what not for the revovlers, and if one breaks you have another to take it's place while it gets fixed. 5 and 6 are up to you, I'd be super happy with these 4 pistols. If I were you numbers 5 and 6 would be....

5. Remington 870 Police Magnum- home defense, zombies
6. Colt AR-15 20"- SHTF, ninja attack, Mongol Horde....

Edited to add (to keep consistent)

7. Reminton 870 Police Magnum- backup to the first
8. Colt AR-15 16"- same as #6 only more maneuverable
That should just about do it......

[lee n. field]

A .45. Doesn't have to be a 1911.

A good .38/.357 revolver. I'm very partial to my S&W Model 19.

A .22, a Ruger Mark II or equivalent, heavy barrel, target sights.

Can you get Makarovs there?

shoot, I'm about bottomed out here.

[bean357]

In no particular order, and what I have...but then I am a tad biased too....heh: :evil:
J Frame (36, 60)
K Frame (66, 19, 18)
L Frame (686)
N Frame (28)
Browning Buckmarks

I've never really had a chance to try out the bigger auto's, but would like to sometime. I have a couple of shootin' buds who have the Bersa .380's and they really like them!

[cosmonick]

1) Ruger MK II
2) 1911 of your choice in 45ACP
3) A high-cap polymer pistol - Glock, Springfield XD, ect - in 9mm or 40
4) A smaller version of #3 for CCW that hopefully accepts the same mags
5) Single Action Revolver in 357, 45 LC or 44 mag
6) Double Action Revolver - I prefer Smith & Wesson - in 357/38spc

And if you figure a way to add #7, maybe an AR pistol .... :)

Mo

[MrChicken]

1. 1911, any high quality model. Add a 22lr conversion kit for plinking.
2. Glock in 357sig/40S&W with interchangable barrels.
3. 6" 357 revo
4. Uber caliber revo, scoped, just because you need something to wow the natives, or for when that rogue circus elephant comes crashing into your living room. :)

Leave 2 choices open for future guns that will come along.

[milcaztra]

1. .45 ACP 1911. Ed Brown, STI, Colt, Kimber, or Springfield.

2. .22 Ruger semi-auto

3. 9mm Glock 19

4. .357 4" S&W 686 or Ruger GP100

5. .357 2" S&W J-frame

6. .40 Sig P226ST, 9mm Hk P7M13, or .9mm CZ 75 SP-01

[Ala Dan]

Browning BuckMark Classic with 5.5" barrel .22 LR

Smith & Wesson 6" 686-5 .357 Magnum

Kimber Raptor II .45 ACP

SIG-SAUER P220A .45 ACP

SIG-SAUER P228 9m/m

Springfield WW-II G.I. .45 ACP

If CCW is permitted, then substitute a 2" barrel J-frame Smith & Wesson
.38 Special such as a model 37, 637, or 642 for the Springer! :uhoh: :D

[Vitamin G]

I'm also biased... I would personally pick...

1) Kimber TLE (Got it)
2) Colt Delta Elite (Got it) (Or something else 1911 pattern in 10mm)
3) Browning Hi Power (Got it) (Or something 1911 pattern, in 9mm)
4) Ruger Mark II (got it) (or other .22 pistol for cheap practice)
5) Rohrbach 9mm (Wishing, since price is an issue for me. I have a keltec instead)
6) Gun of the month


Edit - Gun #6 = Bushmaster AR pistol!

[Preacherman]

Six handguns only? Well, you'll have to define your needs fairly carefully. I'd go for the following:

1. A primary defensive handgun. This should be one suitable for carry and concealment, and powerful enough to do the job, but also one you can handle in fast, accurate fire. My own choice is a Glock 23 in .40 S&W or a SIG P220 in .45 ACP.

2. A second copy of (1) above. This is so that if your primary weapon requires servicing, or you want to send it away for re-finishing, you have a backup available.

Next, assuming you've chosen a pistol rather than a revolver above, get a .22LR upper for your chosen pistol (they're easy to get for some guns, but unavailable for others, so this might guide your selection process). This gives you the ability to train without worrying about ammo costs, using the same grip, trigger pull, etc. that you use on your primary defensive weapon. Some uppers (e.g. the Advantage Arms service upper for Glocks) even allow you to fit the same sights to your .22LR upper as you have on your main-caliber upper, which is a big help for training purposes.

3. A good .22LR pistol or revolver for target practice, plinking, teaching others how to shoot, etc. This can be small and light for use as a "kit gun", or larger and heavier for more range-oriented pursuits. If your primary gun in (1) and (2) above is a revolver, get as close to a duplicate of that revolver as you can in .22LR, for training purposes.

4. A good snubnose revolver in .38 Special for pocket carry and deep concealment. I recommend the Centennial-style revolvers without an exposed hammer for pocket carry.

For the last two handguns, I'd select them based on what you've already chosen. If you don't already have a revolver in .357 Magnum caliber, by all means get one: it'll shoot .38 Special and .357 Magnum ammo interchangeably, and everyone should have one of these. Great for training, trigger control, etc. If you're in territory where you might have to face predatory animals, consider a (carryable) .44 Magnum revolver. If you do a lot of car travel, and would like to have a gun permanently in the car, consider something suitable for that purpose (the .357 Magnum revolver would do nicely, although you don't want an expensive gun for this purpose - it's too easy to steal out of a car!). You'll have to decide for yourself, based on how and where you're living.

[The Viking]

Thanks everybody
Vern, Black Majic, cosmonick and everyone else suggesting a carry gun, thanks for the advice, but CCW is illegal here, unless you are concidered a VIP :fire: :cuss: so carryguns aren't really priority #1. Thanks anyway :)

lee n. field: Yeah, I think we can get Makarovs, we are not that far from the former Soviet Union ;) but seriously, I've heard that the police are often reluctant give you a license for a gun that is easily concelable, but Maks are quite big and heavy arent they? Ammo will probably be a problem to get here though. Especially where I live.

Cosmonick, getting more than six guns are possible, and if I lived under the old rules, I would get as many as possible, but since our Oh-so-benevolent government has decided that it wants fewer handguns around, the rules are quite tricky. I would cry if I got a handgun that I couldn't keep because they wouldn't renew my license.

Preacherman: Carrying in your car is unfortunatly illegal here. All firearms that are not in use are to be locked up. Which is stupid, since it defeats their purpose :fire: Guess my life doesn't mean much for those who rule :fire: I want to see the primeminister go outside without his bodyguards, or travel without his armored car :cuss: Luckily, this isn't bear country, or any predatory-animal country either. The most dangerous critters around here are foxes ( If you are a cat), or dogs that walk around freely. Fortunatly, the big bully of a dog that bullied our dog is dead now. :evil:

[Gunsnrovers]

What is the market like for used handguns in your area?

How do US guns compare in price to European ones? Sig, CZ, FN, ect. versus Ruger, S&W, Colt, etc?

I'd say a pair of your each of your favorite two and two for fun/plinking/casual stuff.

If I had to pick six and only six, I would own:

2 x 1911's
2 x BHP's
1 x S&W M24
1 x S&W M&P/M10/M15

If I was more Eurocentric, I'd own:

2 x FN HP's
2 x Sig 225's
1 x CZ 75
1 x Sig 220

I hate having to limit my choices. :confused:

[Quickdraw Limpsalot]

Six handguns, huh?

Browning Buckmark .22
Ruger Single Six .22
Ruger SP-101 .357
Ruger Super Blackhawk 10.5" .44
Ruger Super Redhawk .480
Springfield XD 9mm

[edit] I just saw your post above about no CCW. I hereby change "Ruger SP-101" to Ruger GP-100... still .357

[The Viking]

What is the market like for used handguns in your area? Dunno really, can check it out.
How do US guns compare in price to European ones? Sig, CZ, FN, ect. versus Ruger, S&W, Colt, etc? Dont know about that either. I'd say a pair of your each of your favorite two and two for fun/plinking/casual stuff. This gets tricky. Its hard to get duplicates. Its hard to get two handguns in the same caliber. :cuss: :cuss:

[Smoke]

1 Colt/Kimber/Springfield/Para Full Size (Gov't)
2 Colt/Kimber/Springfield/Para 4" (Commander)
3 Colt/Kimber/Springfield/Para Compact (Officers or smaller)
4,5,& 6 - Copies of 1,2, & 3

Smoke

[Gunsnrovers]

This gets tricky. Its hard to get duplicates. Its hard to get two handguns in the same caliber

So you mean it would be difficult to get a authorization to have all six in 9mm even if they were different make and model?

That really does make things "interesting". :banghead:

[LoadedDrum]

Para P14-45 LTD Stainless
Springfield 1911A1 Loaded Stainless
S&W 627PC
Ruger MKIII
Glock32, with G23 and 9mm conversion barrels
CZ75B

[armoredman]

CZ 122, CZ75, Tanfoglio Force convertable with all top ends, 1911 45, Walther PPK, Smith Model 10. All common calibers, over here, don't know about over there...
Are there calibers you can't own? Can you reload? If you get a convertable, can you own all the top ends you want? Tanfoglio "large frame" pistols can convert to 22lr/9mm/40SW/38 Super/45ACp/10mm with conversion kits. The CZ75 also has the excellent Kadet conversion kit.

[The Viking]

So you mean it would be difficult to get a authorization to have all six in 9mm even if they were different make and model? That really does make things "interesting":banghead: .
Its not impossible, but it sure has to be two completly different kinds of pistols, like 1:st is just a "practical" (Plinking ;) ), and the other is top of the line, singelshot, 3500$ to be used in Olympic competition.
Are there calibers you can't own?
No restrictions on calibers, atleast not for handguns.
Can you reload?
Yes. Brass and bullets are not controlled, gunpowder and primers are. Officialy that is, from what I heard, very few dealers ask for your license, since they figure the crooks aren't likely to start loading/reloading.
If you get a convertable, can you own all the top ends you want?
Possibly, barrels, and most vital parts are subject to licensing too. But I'm sure it possible, but then I don't know if they count it as one weapon, and that would restrict me from getting the other guns I want.

[Brian Williams]

1. Something accurate, it could be large or small, but excellent for range work
2. Something effecient, 45 auto, 357 mag, 9mm Hi-cap for when you need to use it.
3. Something fun, for when you want to just shoot, being accurate makes this one fun,
4. Something for hunting.
5. Something small and light for concealed carry
6. ???? variable left for grins

1. I have a S&W 35-1 22lr for accuracy.
2. I have a 1911in 45 ACP and a S&W 13 in 357 for when I need to use something handheld.
3. I have a Colt woodsman, just a hoot to shoot.
4. I have a S&W 65 with a 4" pencil barrel for backup while hunting and I can use my S&W 35 for small game. I am looking at a Ruger SBH Hunter in 45 Colt, to reach out and thump medium to large game.
5. I have a S&W 642

[The Viking]

1. Something accurate, it could be large or small, but excellent for range work 2. Something effecient, 45 auto, 357 mag, 9mm Hi-cap for when you need to use it. 3. Something fun, for when you want to just shoot, being accurate makes this one fun, 4. Something for hunting. 5. Something small and light for concealed carry 6. ???? variable left for grins
Hunting with handguns isn't allowed here, but that no reason not to get a large caliber revolver;) I believe there is a disciplin where you shoot big steel targets, and the goal is to get them down? Seems like a perfect reason to write down on the license application for a .44 magnum. :D
Carrying isn't legal either, but who knows, this may change, or there might be a time when nobody have time to care about it...

[Kramer Krazy]

My vote:

1) .22 autoloader
2) 38/357 snubbie
3) 38/357 4" or longer
4) 1911 varient
5) 9mm plastic autoloader
6) 44spl/44 mag 6" or longer

[Sean Smith]

If you are even remotely interested in competition shooting, check the rules of the shooting sports available in your area before you buy a gun.

With the number of guns you can get limited, I would slowly accumulate the best guns you can get.

A good .22 caliber target pistol seems like an obvious choice, they are fun, and the ammo is cheap.

In Europe, I'd probably skip the 1911 and .45 ACP guns, and go with a good service pistol in 9x19... a P226 (or even a P210), Glock 17, CZ-75, FN GP35, that sort of thing.

[EghtySx]

Colt SAA 4.75" .45lc
Colt Python 6" .357 magnum
Colt XSE lightweight commander .45acp
Colt Mustang pocketlight .380
Colt Delta Elite 10mm
Colt Special Combat Government .38 super

[cosmonick]

Since CCW isn't an option, I'd replace #4 on my list as follows:

1) Ruger MK II
2) 1911 of your choice in 45ACP
3) A high-cap polymer pistol - Glock, Springfield XD, ect - in 9mm or 40
4) A metal 9mm like a Sig P226, HK P7 or a Browning Hi-Power
5) Single Action Revolver in 357, 45 LC or 44 mag
6) Double Action Revolver - I prefer Smith & Wesson - in 357/38spc


Mo

[armoredman]

Ya know, you could emigrate over here and eliminate all this trouble, too. We have room for good gun people... :cool: LOTS of room in AZ.... :cool: :cool:

[The Viking]

Ya know, you could emigrate over here and eliminate all this trouble, too. We have room for good gun people... LOTS of room in AZ....:cool: :cool:
Sounds like a good plan.:D Have to think about it. Just have to figure out what kind of education I want here before leaving. Gotta get as much as possible when its free of charge.:D

[lyricsdad]

Here is my list. I dont have alot of experience w/ handguns other than what my dad had and what I have owned.

1 a .22 "my" walther p22 not 'a' p22. w/ the laser sight of course :D
2 walther p99 in .40
3 walther p99 in 9mm
4 glock 17
5 a nice smith and wesson .38 snub
6 a desert eagle in 357 w/ the long barrel

and of course all the ammo as needed.

[SONICMASD]

1. Taurus 24/7 9mm
2. BHP
3. Taurus PT140
4. COLT 1911 45
5. Taurus 2" 38 special
6. Beretta 92FS

[Yooper]

1) S&W 500
2) S&W 629
3) Colt Python
4) Colt 1911
5) Ruger Blackhawk .45 LC
6) Ruger Single Six

[MikeJ]

Since you won't be carrying a gun I will make the assumption that your shooting will be strictly for recreaton or sport. In that case I'd recommend:

.22 pistol - Ruger or Browning

.357 - 4" Ruger GP100 or S&W 686

9mm - Browning Hi-Power

40 S&W - Sig 229

45 acp - Colt or Springfield or if you can afford it an Ed Brown with a 4" or longer barrel. I love my Colt Commander!

.44 magnum - 5 1/2" Ruger Redhawk or 6" S&W 629

This should give you a nice variety to keep you happy. :D

[Bergeron]

I think that Sean Smith made some good points.

If you're interested in competion shooting, go and check out what people are using already. Most folks who don't know what is or is not useful for a competion will almost always buy something less appropriate that if they had a good background knowledge of the sport and its equipment. Considering that you only get six choices (sorry to hear that!), you must pick well. Also, that you only get six behooves you to choose only the highest quality handguns. I think that saving up for the good stuff makes the most sense for your situation.

I'm gonna go along with everyone else in recomending a good 22. You may wish to get a one, and stop there for a little while. Ammunition will be LOT cheaper, allowing you to practice much more, and you will also build your opinions of what you like and don't like in your guns. In line with what I've said, I would recommend something like one of the new Mark III Ruger .22s from a custom shop like Volquartsen, a Smith 41, or a Sig Trailside, in about that order. The controls are similar to what you will exerience in a centerfire pistol, and the quality is top-notch. If you want to try out something kind of different, I've had a lot of experience with one of the Benelli "free pistol" style guns. Amazingly accurate and a truly wonderful trigger, but its operation is VERY different than anything else you would experience. If you can find someone to let you try different guns out, that would be my best recommendation.

Which sports are you interested in? If we know that, maybe we can help steer you in a good direction.

Best Luck!

[P-35/53]

A Commander sized 45 auto
A Browning Hi-Power
A Glock 19
A Ruger GP100 or a S&W 686
A 22 Auto - Ruger MKII or other
A Single action army in 44 Special or 44-40 or 45 colt

[Cosmoline]

Sig P225
Colt Official Police, target model
Ruger Super Blackhawk, old model
A good 1911
Ruger Mark II or Single Six

[BigSlick]

Delta Gold Cup in stainless
P226 in nickel
S&W 500
Lightweight Commander
Smith and Wesson 32 H&R Airlite
45 ACP Luger, serial number 2

BigSlick

[The Viking]

I think that Sean Smith made some good points.
So did I, sounds reasonable.
Most folks who don't know what is or is not useful for a competion will almost always buy something less appropriate
I can always change if I'm not happy with it.
Considering that you only get six choices (sorry to hear that!), you must pick well.
Six is what I can get without having to go in to lengthy explanations on why I need a seventh. The licensing system here is based on need. You can prove a need? You can get it, no matter what it is. But some politican with too much time on his/her hands figured that six was all that one needed.:cuss:
Which sports are you interested in?
Well...that is hard to say, since I don't really have any experience with handguns. The only ones I really know about are the disciplin where the goal is to knock over steel targets, and combat shooting, or whatever it is called.But I have to go to the local range and see what they are up too.

[Daniel Flory]

2 - High End 5" 1911s such as a Brown
1- Bowen .44mag 1917 conversion
2- Colt .45LC SAA customized with stronger actions
1- Ruger Single Six .22LR/.22mag

[cslinger]

Ok so no handguns in the same caliber and six overall total.

SIG P220 .45 ACP
Glock 17/19 or CZ75 series 9x19mm (.22 conversion kits available)
Smith and Wesson .22LR revolver (take your pick here)
Ruger GP100 3inch .357 magnum (Shoots .38 also)
SIG P229 .40S&W (Can be switched to .357 SIG)
Ruger Super Redhawk or other Revo in .454 Casull (Can shoot .45LC)

Versatility would be the name of my game. With six guns I can effectively have 10 guns that range from home defense to target to carry to hunting. I also have a variety of actions and calibers to play with.

I would switch out the .22 revolver for some tricked out .22 competition pistol if that was one of my ultimate goals.

Chris

[brickboy240]

1) Some form of the Colt 1911 design in 5 inch trim (pick a maker)

2) an FN/Belguim made Browning Hi-Power (P-35 as you probably call it)

3) Sig Sauer P-220

4) Sig Sauer P-226

5) CZ-75

6) Springfield Armory XD-9 or XD-40 (known to you as the HS2000)

Those would be my choices.

Good luck!

-Brickboy240

PS: I own two Volvos...you guys make great automobiles!

[gulogulo1970]

Revolvers
Colt Cobra 2"
Colt Python 4"
Ruger SP-101 3"

Semiautomatics
Glock 22
Glock 36
Kimber Eclipse Custom II

[Sir Aardvark]

1) S&W 686 -.357, your choice of barrel length.

2) S&W J-Frame - .38/.357, Airlite, your choice of style, good pocket gun for concealed carry!.

3) 1911 style - .45 ACP, The standard that all handguns measure up to. I have 2 Colt Gold cups and a SIG GSR;the GSR is better in my opinion.

4) Sig 229 - .40/.357 SIG/9mm, one gun can fire all three cartridges with the proper barrels. This is an excellent concealed carry/personal defense choice.

5) Ruger MKII - .22 LR, the gun that put Ruger on the map. Everyone needs a .22 LR or they don't know what they're missing.

6) S&W 629 - .44 mag, the original big-bore handgun.

You must seriously consider the SIG SAUER 226 or 229 in .40 S&W or .357 SIG. These guns have interchangeable barrels and can shoot both cartridges using the same magazines. Bar-Sto Barrels also makes a conversion barrel for these two firearms that will allow them to shoot 9mm using the same magazines. If you go this route you get 3 guns in 1!.

[trickyasafox]

if you plan on reloading, i'd consider more along lines of revolvers. but if you dont really care about hunting brass or any of that then this would be the list:

glock 17 or S&W 5906
1911 of some sort (rock island if your on a budget)
ruger mkII or 22/45 or some 22 pistol
357 i like ruger gp 100's, but pick your flavor. i'd say 4in is the most versitale

because your limited you might want to consider multi cal guns like the taurus triad shoots 9mm 357 and 38, so you could get a broader caliber range with less guns. just a thought. you could also get the same thing from an old ruger with 2 cylinders.

you said carry wasnt a big concern of you, but if hunting is, have you considered an thompson encore or contender? you could probably just register the frame as 1 gun, but get as many barrels as you want, so you could really get to having a bunch of calibers if you wanted to go that road.

just some thoughts hope this helps!

[KarbineKrazy]

If it were me...

Ruger Security Six Stainless, 4 inch barrel
S&W 686 full underlug 4 or 6 inch barrel
Keltec P3AT
Glock 23
Glock 20
1911 Government model from a high quality manufacturer.

These would be my pick. I don't need a 44 magnum. I own the Security Six, will own the G23 very soon and plan on picking the rest up within the next 3-4 years...

[The Viking]

you said carry wasnt a big concern of you, but if hunting is, have you considered an thompson encore or contender? you could probably just register the frame as 1 gun, but get as many barrels as you want, so you could really get to having a bunch of calibers if you wanted to go that road.
Hunting with handguns is illegal here, but this got me thinking...is it possible to get a longer barrel for it - carbine/rifle-length? With a stock attached it would probably qualify as a rifle. Do they make them in .308, .30-06 or something similar in power?

[20cows]

I see you're getting a large number of responses. This is good (can be overwhelming, though). It sounds like to me the need is to cover as many diffrent situations as you can with a limited number of guns. I would suggest as wide a variety as possible.

1. Ruger MkII .22 lr. Everyone needs a .22 pistol. It may as well be an automatic because you won't be chasing brass to reload any way.

2. S&W 686 or Ruger SP101 in .357 mag. A good medium bore revolver is very versitile. Purely for the sake of variety, I'd go with the S&W.

3. 1911 in.45 ACP. There are some things that just require a large bore semi-auto. I personally think this is the best design of large bore semi-auto. There are a number of good manufacturers out there and any could do the job.

4. Glock high capacity 9mm. I don't even know the model number, I'm not a Glock person. They're good guns and, once again for variety, a Glock is very different than the 1911. Everybody could use a large capacity semi-auto.

5. Thompson Center Contender in 30-30. Very different from the others, it is a fantastic shooter over amazingly long ranges, especially when used with a scope.

6. Colt/clone SAA (Peacemaker) in .45 Colt. This is probably my favorite to shoot. The others have a practical place and are fun also, but there's nothing that feels better in your hand than that (gunwise, I mean).

There is one other that I would suggest as a possible alternative to any of the above, if any one of those does not suit your fancy. A S&W model 29 in .44 mag. Again a handgun with a lot of versatility. If this were one of my choices, I'd pick the SP101 over the 686 to avoid S&W duplication.

With the above spectrum of handguns, you should be able to participate in every kind of shooting activity that is availible. There is no duplication of caliber nor design.

But you know, a large part of the fun you are about to experience is the chance to take someone's advise (or not) and make your own choice. "Whatever floats YOUR boat."

Have fun.

[The Viking]

But you know, a large part of the fun you are about to experience is the chance to take someone's advise (or not) and make your own choice. "Whatever floats YOUR boat."
Definetly. Gives me an excellent excuse to try out as many firearms as possible. :D
Have fun.
Will do. :)

[mjb]

Only 6 handguns!! :eek: You are no fun!! :D
Colt .22 Trooper MkIII 6 inch barrel
Colt .38 spl Cobra snub nose
Colt .44 Anaconda 6 inch barrel
Colt 10mm Double Eagle
Colt Python 6 inch barrel
Glock 20

[trickyasafox]

yes you can get thompson encore and contender in rifle lengths. up to 26 inches with an assortment of stocks!

www.tcarms.com

they can also be shotguns and muzzleloaders too. mine is a 15in 223 single shot pistol and a 50 cal 24in muzzle loader when i switch out barrel and stock :)

[thereisnospoon]

Only six, that's kind of arbitrary isn't it?

I guess If I was limited to JUST six handguns they would be as follows

Brace of Glock 22s
Brace of Glock 23s
Brace of Glock 27s

Is that six? :eek:

[MTMilitiaman]

Personally, if I had to full every role that could be filled with a handgun with six handguns, I could manage, but I wouldn't be happy.

Right now, I'd pick a Glock 29 or 30 for CCW
A Glock 20 for bedstand and vehicle and for backpacking protection as a light trail gun
And personally would opt for a Mk XIX Desert Eagle in .44 Mag with a 6 inch barrel and a red dot sight and a 10 inch .50 AE barrel with a 2x Leupold for designated handgun hunting.
I would probably also get a Ruger Mk II or Browning Buckmark for small game plinking and practice.
That leaves two for personal preference. I would probably go with a Springfield Armory TRP Operator and a SIG P226 or 228.

In your case, you don't need the CCW gun unless you plan to carry illegally at your own risk so you can substitute that for something else. A 4 inch .357 from your preferred make and model would be fun and useful. The Desert Eagles can still be justified as fun plinkers and competition peices. They are big but they are also reliable and extremely accurate. You could get the same effect from a large framed revolver in your choice of manufactures--say a 6 inch .44 and a .500, both from Smith and Wesson. If your .357 is also from S&W, this gives you three revolvers with similar characteristics and will allow you to become pretty profecient with the them. You could do the same thing with Ruger as well. With the Glock 20 you can get barrels in .45 ACP, .40 Smith and Wesson, and .357 SIG as desired, and the 10mm is also extremely versitile, though not as easy to find as it should be. I'd keep the Glock 20 in serious consideration if I were you. The .22 pistol is still a must, though if you opt for 3 revolvers with similar handling characteristics and controls, you might be better off to opt for a .22 revolver from the same manufacture. And again, you still have several options left for personal preference. A 9mm is fun an econimical and can be used for self defense as well. The SIG 226 and Browning Hi Power are both classics. And I am not a huge fan of the 1911, but I personally couldn't consider my collection complete without one, so I would still save room for a fullsize Springfield Armory or Kimber. Going this route would mean you end up with 4 revolvers--a .22 LR, a .357 Mag, a .44 Mag, and some earsplitten loudenboomer of your choice--all with similar controls and handling characteristics, and your choice of two of four autos--a Glock 20 10mm, a SIG 226 or BHP 9mm, or a 1911 Gov Model. Or you could eliminate the last revolver and get three autos. The .357 Mag and .44 Mag can take .38 Specials and .44 Specials, respectively so they are very practical and versitile. This means you could end up with 6 handguns being able to shoot eight or nine different cartridges and able to handle anything from mice to moose as opprotunities are presented. It might suck not being able to buy whatever else you want until you move to the states but you can certainly manage with such a well rounded collection.

[klover]

.17 air pistol
.22 auto or rev
.38 model 10 Smith and Wesson
.357 model 19 Smith and Wesson
.44 mag model 629 Smith and Wesson
.500 Smith and Wesson

[albanian]

If I had to narrow it down to my favorite six it would be:

1. Bersa 23 in nickel and .22lr

2. Beretta 92fs 9mm

3. S&W 638 .38spl

4. Kahr K-9 9mm

5. Ruger MKII .22lr

6. S&W model 19 .357 mag in either 6" or 4"

I would really miss my Ruger Speedsix and Star 9mms but I guess I could live.

[Thrash1982]

1. Beretta 96
2. Springfield XD
3. 1911
4. Smith & Wesson revolver of some flavor
5. .22LR pistol of some sort possibly a Ruger Mk II or S&W Model 41
6. Sig 226

[The Viking]

MTMilitiaman: Hunting with handguns is illegal here in most cases (you are allowed to use them if you are hunting badgers and foxes and similar critters that dwell underground, since they actually had a stroke of genius: Rifles are hard to wield in a tiny tunnel. I think it has to be a revolver or singleshot pistol though.)
Oh, and I can get more than six guns, but most PD's are probably unwilling to grant that many licenses...:cuss:

[pete f]

it seems a lot of people are postingwithout reading your responses, but I hope i have read them all and come up with this answer. Instead of trying to plan all six at once, how about trying it like this. are you still in the armed forces? Do you have access to military training ammo? I remember my cousins being given a certain amount of ammo periodically for mandatory practice.

First choice, then would be good .22. either a Beretta 87 or a target model of the ruger or buckmark if they are available or a Mod 41 S&W. Learn to shoot that gun till you shoot it well and you decided what you like. I would also add a good quality .22 revolver at this time. A model 17 Smith and Wesson or a Colt Diamond back. I would lean to either a 4 inch or 6 inch barrel as those would be the most comfortable to shoot from a balance point. Or perhaps a .22 single six? looks like a cowboy gun.

decide which platform you like best, perhaps selling off the one you do not like and then move up the scale. next would be a 9mm or a 357 pistol depending on if your taste runs to auto or revolver. I have no knowledge of this, but 9MM ammo is usually the cheapest you can find, making it more fun to shoot all you can. .357 gives you the choice of heavy magnum loads and light 38 special target loads, and also tend to be affordable. Here perhaps a Dan Wesson pistol pak would be a boon, this is one frame with several barrels that screw on and off. Accurate and well made, these have only one serial number for all the parts, so that argueing with the local approval agency should be easier that you are buying one GUN and lots of accessories,

Then decide what you want from there.

Are you only allowed to shoot on a designated range or can you find a place inthe woods and just play?

for playing I like a hi capacity Nine and a 45 colt SAA or a clone, just lots of fun.

have fun, be safe

[cookekdjr]

Hmmmmmm...you can't hunt with them...and you can't carry them in your car. So what do you NEED six handguns for?
This is a WANT thing. So figure out which six guns you would ENJOY the most, and get those. People have given you a good starting point- 1911's, Ruger or Browning .22 semi-autos, big-bore revolvers, etc.
But if you are primarily limited to home defense and target shooting, it may make sense to only buy 2 or 3 high quality pistols-
Maybe a custom 1911, some type of 9mm (cheap to shoot) and a good .22 target pistol. You might consider a Colt SAA or clone and take up cowboy action shooting. That could give you a reason to get around the six guns rule later. :)
Good luck, and have fun.

David

[The Viking]

are you still in the armed forces? Do you have access to military training ammo?I'm afraid the answer is no, so I don't have access to that. I plan contacting them and get to try out again for service. Are you only allowed to shoot on a designated range or can you find a place inthe woods and just play? I think that I can shoot just about everywhere, but I'll have to check about that. I know the almost perfect spot though, ideally it should be a little further away from everything, but the setting is perfect.
Hmmmmmm...you can't hunt with them...and you can't carry them in your car. So what do you NEED six handguns for? I don't need any, I just want to have them. I'm not allowed to carry now, nor hunt, but situations when those laws are not enforced could come. This is a WANT thing.Guilty as charged. :) I should get as many as I can, before they enact more silly restrictions.

[cookekdjr]

Quote:
This is a WANT thing.

Guilty as charged. I should get as many as I can, before they enact more silly restrictions.

If you think more silly rules are coming, then you might want to stock up...
-David

[P. Plainsman]

* Colt Python 6"

* Ruger GP-100 4"

* All-steel .45 auto -- 1911 or SIG P220 ST

* .44 Mag huntin' revolver -- Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter, Ruger Super Redhawk, or S&W 629

* S&W J-frame .38 Special

* .22 pistol -- Browning Buck Mark or Ruger Mk-II

[callgood]

I don't have a broad exposure to handguns as most, but I have these. NOTE-Nothing with a little key :cuss:
S&W Model 41- I can shoot all week on a budget, it's very accurate with ammunition it likes. (Shot a Ruger .22 recently, it was also superb, but I love the design and ergonomics of the 41).
S&W 442- serves a limited but specific purpose. I wouldn't want a scandium/ titanium etc. frame and I sure as hell wouldn't want one that size in .357.
Ruger GP100- who says AC/DC isn't ok? I can reload some hot loads I too hot for the 442 or step up to .357. I always wanted a Smith .41 mag (oddball calibers attract me) & I shot a 44 mag- factory wood grips, & while thrilling, once was enough (Hogues probably would have increased the enjoyment). A Smith 686 is a more refined revolver, and you can get it tuned to a finer pitch, but if I could shoot a revolver any better than I can the GP100 I couldn't stand it!
Browning Hi Power 9mm- you can't be European without a 9mm. You could get it in .40 S&W, but what's the point (unless you are competing in something requiring a bigger power factor.) I just bought my 2nd after selling one years ago as a poor student. I can't imagine why I let 30 years go by. It's the one that "sings" to me. Couldn't fault you if you chose a Beretta 92. 500 years and you learn how to crank out a pretty decent pistol.
Glock 20- I told you I liked oddball calibers. Word is 10mm is on the decline. Couldn't care less, since so many people have adopted the 40 S&W that I'll always be able to find components to reload. It is also the reason I took up reloading, so I could afford to feed it!
Sig P220 in stainless- my other big auto. If the Glock is my Chevy the Sig is the Caddy in my 6. There are a lot of fine 1911s out there, and you can trick 'em out to infinity, but I've never been fond of grip safetys and beavertails. Just like eggplant (aubergines). Nothing wrong with 'em, just don't like 'em. On a budget, if forced, I would consider the Springfield GI. For 375.00 or so, it's a good value. Would have to change the sights- too small for my old eyes.
Well, there's my 2 öre.

[lawboy]

Brands are up to you.

1. .22lr semi auto target grade
2. .357 magnum revolver with 4- to 6-inch barrel
3. 9mm semi auto
4. 44 magnum single-action revolver with 4- to 5.5-inch barrel
5. 45 acp 19ll pattern semi auto
6. thompson center contender

If things are similar in Sweden to things here in the U.S., you can buy as many T/C barrels as you like, and can buy a marvel unit or other .22lr conversion for the 1911. If your 9mm is a Glock, CZ or Hi-Power, you can get quality 22lr convesions for those also. A dan wesson .357 revolver will allow you to have multiple barrel length and barrel shrouds set up with different sighting arrangements as would a dan wesson revolver in 44 mag or 445 super mag. with only six guns to buy, these types of things would be affordable and would be very useful ways to expand your arsenal and make your existing firearms work for various types of hunting and competitive shooting. You can have a pretty darn complete aresenl with the right six guns and accessories.

[Atticus]

I agree with Lawboy's list, except I'd change number 6 to a snubnose revolver in .38 spl (Colt or S&W).

[Baba Louie]

I'd try to find one of these for national heritage sake, providing I could find ammo to shoot the darned thing (and maybe parts for some of them)
http://www.poisontooth.com/~dutchman/eldhandvapen.html
1st... From that group, Probably the 1907 Browning clone, or a Lahti (national history & pride doncha know?)
2nd... Some type of Cowboy gun... Colt, US Firearm or more than likely a Ruger (in a caliber easily purchased over there)
3rd... A .22 lr for cheap plinking or competition
4th... A Browning Hi-Power
5th... SIG/Glock/HK/Beretta something or other
Last... a BIG BOOMER like an older blued S&W 29 in .44 magnum and set up for reloading

But that's just me. Since I could only have the six, I'd want as high a quality set as I could afford to collect, knowing that I'd be shooting at least five of them on a regular basis.

[TheHomelandSoldier]

1) HK Tactical .45
2) S&W 629, 4"
3) Hammerli Trailside .22
4) Glock 26
5) S&W Mod. 60 .357 snub
6) Kimber Gold Match

[JohnKSa]

A 6" Stainless Steel .357 Magnum revolver. S&W 686 or GP100 are my recommends.

A full size 9mm pistol. CZ-75, Glock 17, Beretta 92FS, or H&K USP are my recommends.

A .22 Semi-auto pistol. Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark II are good ones to start looking at.

A 6" 44Magnum revolver. Ruger Redhawk, Super Redhawk (if scoping handguns is your thing) or S&W 629 or 29 are good pistols.

I know you don't think CCW is a possibility, but things may change, or you may find yourself in a situation where it makes sense even in view of laws to the contrary. Therefore, I'm going to recommend a small very concealable autopistol. There are a ton of them out there in various calibers from .32ACP up to 9mm. That alone is probably worth it's own thread.

Get something really cool. Maybe an antique like a Luger or a Lahti. Maybe something common in the movies like a Desert Eagle. Maybe a custom 1911. Just something neat that will make your collection of handguns unique.

[lawboy]

Atticus, thanks for the attaboy. I agree that the T/C could go in favor of a snubnose revolver. However, If he got a DW revolver to begin with, he could get a 2-inch barrel and a smaller grip and still have a pretty compact carry revolver, albeit, not a true pocket gun. On the other hand, pretty much nothing else can pinch hit for a T/C. It all depends on what he anticipated doing the most of. Another thought is that a subcompact Glock or compact Glock and do pretty much whatever the small frame revolver can do and then some in terms of defensive deployment.
Regards to all.
--lawboy

[thorazine]

Six handguns only - What would YOU pick?

1) Sig Sauer P228
2) Sig Sauer P220ST
3) Sig Sauer P226ST (.357SIG)
4) Sig Sauer P226ST (9MM)
5) Sig Sauer P245
6) Sig Sauer Mosquito

[gm]

a nice 22 semiauto,a small 380 for concealability as well as a small 38 special.



a 9mm ,357 and a big bore.. 40,44 or 45 .

[Chrontius]

Dunno if I've posted yet... but here's the list I'd suggest.

1. Kel-Tec P3AT. Dress it up with a colored grip and a belt clip.
2. Serbu Super-shorty, 12-ga. Get some extra-long thunderwear.
3. Carbon-15, with 100 round snails. Plural. And tracers.
4. 1911 or Ruger SP-101 .357
5. Kahr or Glock, probably Kahr K40 with diamondoid tungsten carbide finish
6. .22 SP-101, better to practice for the .357 one

If you don't like NFA weapons or cut-down rifle recievers, there's the CZ-52, and the NAA Mini in .22 magnum; both have reputations as firebreathers.

[GEM]

1. Glock 19 for everyday carry
2. SW 642 for pocket carry or a PM9 - same reason
3. A 22 LR revolver - like a SW 63 or Ruger Bear Cat - as a utility gun
4. A Model 66 SW 357 revolver as everyone should have a 38/357 gun
5. A 1911 of some flavor
6. Some big honker revolver for BEAR ATTACKS - maybe that Ruger 454 Snubby.

[Hotdog386]

Today's selection would be

1) S&W M67 38 Spl
2) S&W M642 38 Spl
3) S&W M629 44 Mag 4"
4) Full size 1911 45 ACP
5) Browning's P-35 Hi-Power 9mm
6) Ruger MkII Standard 22LR

This list is subject to frequent change.

[Fenris Wolf]

What about change systems? In Germany we have the same problem like you in Sveden with a limited number of handguns. But you can buy change systems with the same or smaller caliber without problem.

e.g. if you buy a Heckler&Koch Expert in .40 S&W you can buy a Expert 9mm change system, USP .40 S&W, USP 9mm, etc. and it still counts as one gun.

http://www.triebel.de/bilder/hk_wsuspelite.jpg

If you have the same in Sveden think about this!


Fenris

P.S.
My Favorite:
Heckler&Koch P7 9mm
HK Expert .40 S&W
HK P9S .45
HK P2000 9mm
Kimber 1911 (not sure which model)
S&W revolver (not sure which model)
:cool:

[The Viking]

What about change systems? In Germany we have the same problem like you in Sveden with a limited number of handguns. But you can buy change systems with the same or smaller caliber without problem. e.g. if you buy a Heckler&Koch Expert in .40 S&W you can buy a Expert 9mm change system, USP .40 S&W, USP 9mm, etc. and it still counts as one gun. If you have the same in Sveden think about this! Fenris P.S. My Favorite: Heckler&Koch P7 9mm HK Expert .40 S&W HK P9S .45 HK P2000 9mm Kimber 1911 (not sure which model) S&W revolver (not sure which model):cool:
Well, you need a license for those, but I don't know how hard it is to get one. I have to look into that too...

[Boats]

1) Ruger New Model Single Six because it comes with two cylinders, one for .22lr and .22 Mag, the other for .17HMR.

2) Ruger SP-101 2.25 inch barrel .38Sp./.357 Magnum

3) Ruger GP-100, stainless four inch adjustable sights .38Sp./.357 Mag.

4) CZ-75 or 85 9mm

5) Some euro flavor of .40S&W that I could swap a 9mm top end out for.

6) A Colt 1911A1 in .45 ACP

I would have the revolvers because a single action revolver is cool in a cowboy way, even if this one is just a pop gun. The double action revolvers are by far the most versatile handguns one can own because they are not ammo sensitive for function, can shoot target loads or with tremendous power, and they offer no clean-up of the brass at the range.

I like the CZ-75 or 85 because the Kadet adapter kit for .22lr happens to be very affordable as well as one of the best on the market.

A .40S&W/9mm frame pistol that has the ability to swap slides, barrels and recoil springs offers another pistol with something different to offer. An XD-40 might be a good choice.

6) The 1911A1 would be essential in Europe if for no other reason than to see what all of the Americans were yammering on about. ;) Again, affordable .22lr top ends are available for this pistol, which has by far the largest aftermarket of any handgun ever made. Want to mess with the parts, the trigger pull, the grips, match barrels, etc.? This pistol is the most rewarding to tinker with as long as the jobs aren't messed up.

[Berg01]

Figure 6 guns @$650.00/ea. ~ $3,900.00...

O.K., for that money, I'd take a stainless Ed Brown Classic Custom and a LNIB Royal Blue Colt Python (6" bbl.), with those two, I wouldn't need the other four anyway.

[Stevie-Ray]

Not in order:

1. Ruger .22
2. .45 ACP to carry (Kimber Ultra, Colt Defender, et al)
3. .45 ACP not to carry (H&K USP or USPC or better yet a full size 1911)
4. 10mm (Colt Delta Elite)
5. 9mm U pick
6. .44 Mag (I'd go with Redhawk or Anaconda)

[boldkharma]

.22 revo or auto.
.357 mag revo
P3AT
.44 mag revo
1911 .45
10mm, 1911 or 10XX series SW

With this set, your covered for everything.

[hso]

Unarmed Shooter,

Is a single handgun with changable barrel/slide/calibers considered a single gun with multiple accessories?

If so you may want to try to look into CZ 75 or the TZ clones since you can exchange the barrels to shoot 9mm, .40 cal, 10mm, .45 cal and .22 cal. 1 gun 5 calibers. You may want to consider a .357 revolver to shoot both the magnum and the .38 cal. H&K made a pistol that could convert from 9mm to .380 to .32 to .22.

You get the idea.

[taxburdett]

6 Sig P220's.

[magsnubby]

S&W Military & Police. It was Dad's gun. He bought it used in 1941.

S&W Model 63 bought new in 1980. I tought my son how to shoot using that
little .22. Every gun collection needs atleast 1 small .22 revolver.

S&W Model 60. I always wanted a 60. Had an action job done, bobbed the hammer, converted to D/A only, smoothed the trigger, installed an orange front sight and added Hogue Goncolo Alves grips. It's a great little .38.

Glock 17. It just fits my hand and i shoot it better than any other 9mm i've ever owned or fired. Every gun collection should have a good 9mm.

Glock 30. What can i say? A Glock and .45 acp make a great combo. I shoot it more than either of my 1911's.

And my favorite:A 4" stainless steel Ruger Security Six bought new in 1977. The .357 is one of the most versitile wheelguns ever made. Everybody should have atleast one.

[nero45acp]

S&W M63 4" .22LR
S&W PC M66 F Comp .357 Magnum
SIG P225 9mm
SIG P226 X-Five 9mm
Colt Python 4" Stainless .357 Magnum
Colt SAA 4-3/4" .45 Colt or .357 Magnum

I hope you've got a good job. ;)


nero

[The Viking]

Unarmed Shooter, Is a single handgun with changable barrel/slide/calibers considered a single gun with multiple accessories? If so you may want to try to look into CZ 75 or the TZ clones since you can exchange the barrels to shoot 9mm, .40 cal, 10mm, .45 cal and .22 cal. 1 gun 5 calibers. You may want to consider a .357 revolver to shoot both the magnum and the .38 cal. H&K made a pistol that could convert from 9mm to .380 to .32 to .22. You get the idea.
Well, those parts are subject to licensing too. Such a shame, and so stupid too. Without the frame and all the internals they are quite useless anyway, unless you want to attempt to build a gun. But I like the idea.

[Estela216]

Starting small and going larger and larger:

1. .22 autoloader or revolver (plinking, hunting, etc.)
2. 9mm compact (not subcompact) such as a G19, Sig 228, Kahr PM9 Etc.
3. 1911 variant Colt, Kimber, Springfield, Wilson. Pick your favorite
4. .357 revolver. Shoots both .38 and .357 which is great for long term survival if need be.
5. .44 magnum revolver. Large enough caliber for most gam in the lower 48 states.
6. BUG gun that uses same ammo, and mags if possible, as number 2 or 3. For instance, a G26 for a G19 or an officers model for a government sized pistol.

Just my .02 cents.

Hope this helps.

[jeff-10]

Coincidentially ,I like atleast one of the other members here have exactly 6 handguns also, so I have already chosen.

S&W 1076 - 10mm
S&W 686P - 357 Mag
BHP - 40 S&W
Ruger MK2 - 22 LR
CZ-75B - 9mm
SIG P226 - 9mm

[chaim]

OK, I read all of your posts, and most of the other posts.

Lets see if I have the guidelines you have to live under fully understood. You are limited to 6 handguns (for all practical purposes, though theoretically it is possible to get more). Conversion/adapter kits allowing one gun to work on more than one caliber needs licensing (and thus I assume you mean it counts as one of your six guns). CCW and handgun hunting is illegal so you are looking at range use only. CCW sized guns probably won't be approved when you submit the license application. It is hard to get approval to buy two guns in the same caliber. Am I missing anything?

Have you checked around to see what calibers are available in your area? You may want to modify my choices based on your local considerations.

-Full-sized 9mm. 9mm is very versatile- cheap ammo (at least around here) in some factory loadings, yet in well chosen JHPs very effective for defense (I know you said even home defense is illegal there, but are there home visits, if not I don't know what you may actually chose to do). From what I understand it is quite available in most parts of Europe.

-A full-sized 1911. Assuming it isn't too hard to get .45ACP ammo everyone should have a 1911.

-A K-frame sized 3" or 4" .357mag. If the laws ever change for CCW it is small enough to be concealable (though it isn't as easy to do so as with some smaller guns).'

-A .22lr auto or revolver. Cheap practice, low recoil, both make it ideal for introducing new shooters and for basic practice.

-A large bore revolver. Personally I'm a big .41mag fan- power levels about mid way between the .357mag and .44mag but with much less recoil than a .44mag (and I think a more pleasant style of recoil, though heavier, than .357mag). Still, .41mag isn't particularly easy to find around here, in Europe it may be near impossible in which case I'd say .44mag or a Ruger .45LC if you want to get into reloading (.45LC can be reloaded into .44mag levels and above, but you need a strong revolver like one of the Rugers)

-If you can get the OK from the authorities a .38spl J-frame sized snub or a medium sized auto (like a Kahr K/P series) in .40S&W if the caliber is available (since I've already suggested a 9mm). Just in case the CCW restrictions are eased or altogether abandoned you'll be ready, and they are fun at the range anyway.

-I'm not sure what to add for 6 as these 5 seem to address the basics. Maybe a single action revolver, maybe a revolver in an odd caliber, maybe a Contender or another handgun in rifle calibers (especially like the Contender that you can switch out the barrels for other calibers), or maybe a blackpowder revolver (they are tons of fun).

While there are plenty of other good choices (so this list is not exclusive by any stretch of the imagination) here are what I personally have chosen in these catagories (in case you want specific model ideas)-

-Full-size 9mm: CZ 75B and I'm sure I'll add several others
-1911: Charles Daly 1911, and I plan to add a SA or Kimber and also a Taurus once the Taurus is available. I'll get a Valtro if I ever have that kind of money to invest in a gun.
-3-4" K-frame .357mag: A 3" S&W 65LS, a 4" S&W 19. I will add many more.
-.22lr: I have a Ruger MkII and I plan to add at least a Taurus 94 revolver
-Big Bore revolver: A 6" S&W 57 (.41mag). I will add a couple more .41mags, definately a .45LC or two, and possibly a .44mag eventually.
-J-frame revolver or mid sized auto: A Taurus 85 (.38spl snub), Bersa Thunder .380 and Taurus PT140 Millenium Pro.
-Other: I won't list all my guns, but out of the types I mentioned in the listing above I do love my two blackpowder revolvers (one a cheap brass framed Remingtion 1858 New Army clone, the other a nice Colt 1860 Army clone).

[The Viking]

Lets see if I have the guidelines you have to live under fully understood. You are limited to 6 handguns (for all practical purposes, though theoretically it is possible to get more) Yes.

Conversion/adapter kits allowing one gun to work on more than one caliber needs licensing (and thus I assume you mean it counts as one of your six guns). I honestly don't know about that one. Probably depends on the police. The police are not always that knowledgable about firearms...a guy in Gothenburg handed in an application for a Glock 18...and got it approved!
CCW sized guns probably won't be approved when you submit the license application. Perhaps. From what I've heard, the policy is that if it has been approved before, it is likely to be approved again, so CCW-sized guns are possible. Glock 18's are the exception to that, now that a memo was sent out, due to a an article in a newspaper:cuss: about the horror of full auto firearms in the hands of the public.:fire:It is hard to get approval to buy two guns in the same caliber. Yes. Am I missing anything? Nope.
-Full-sized 9mm. 9mm is very versatile- cheap ammo (at least around here) in some factory loadings, yet in well chosen JHPs very effective for defense (I know you said even home defense is illegal there, but are there home visits, if not I don't know what you may actually chose to do). From what I understand it is quite available in most parts of Europe. Homedefense isn't illegal, but it will probably get you into trouble, however there are cases when the shooter wasn't punished at all. 9mm should be available just about anywhere.
-A full-sized 1911. Assuming it isn't too hard to get Shouldn't be that hard. -A .22lr auto or revolver. Cheap practice, low recoil, both make it ideal for introducing new shooters and for basic practice. Thats probably what I'll have to start with. Its not a law that says first handgun has to be a .22, but it is standard procedure. Most of the time...-If you can get the OK from the authorities a .38spl J-frame sized snub or a medium sized auto (like a Kahr K/P series) in .40S&W if the caliber is available (since I've already suggested a 9mm). Just in case the CCW restrictions are eased or altogether abandoned you'll be ready, and they are fun at the range anyway. Like you said about the K-frame, things might change about CCW, or the situation might be so extreme that the laws aren't enforced.-I'm not sure what to add for 6 as these 5 seem to address the basics. Maybe a single action revolver, maybe a revolver in an odd caliber, maybe a Contender or another handgun in rifle calibers (especially like the Contender that you can switch out the barrels for other calibers), or maybe a blackpowder revolver (they are tons of fun).
Funny thing about the law, regarding black powder weapons...if they are manufactured before 1890, they are excempt from the licensing requirement. There is a guy I've seen around at an annual antiques/collectors show who sells black powder rifles...have to ask him about the market for antique revolvers.

[W Turner]

If CCW and handgun hunting aren't options.....

1-.22lr semi-auto for fun and training...Ruger Mark II or Browning Buckmark
2-.38/.357 4" bbl ...SW 686/66 or Ruger GP 100
3-.44mag/.45LC SA revolver....Ruger Vaquero or Blackhawk, Beretta Stampede, Uberti. I would go for the classis 5.5" bbl.
4-9mm hi-cap semi-auto.....Glock 17, Sig 226, Beretta 92
5-.45ACP 1911
6-WildCard...pick youre favorite toy as the rest fill all of the classic niches (.22 plinker, 4" service revolver, SA revolver, 9mm sprayandpray, and .45 warhorse)


W

[cratz2]

Hrmm... for my needs? I'd be happy with a solid 1911 (blued NRM Colt 1991A1) a full size CZ (CZ75B SA in 9mm with a little trigger tuning) a smaller CZ (PCR or P-01) something even smaller Kahr P9 Covert). I could stop there or I could add a 22 conversion of some sort for either the 1911 or CZ and a 4" 686 or possibly a Blackhawk or Super Blakchawk in 44 or 45 if I were into handgun hunting. These are just from the guns I've owned and in all honesty, I would probably be quite happy with just the two CZs and the conversion.

[grnzbra]

I did that once. Bought six 1911s. Cops were out to the house the next day. :eek:

[1911Tuner]

One pre A1 Colt (Commercial or USGI)
One Remington Rand
One Union Switch & Signal
One Singer
Two Ithacas...one to carry and one to shoot.

I'd also like to have a Model 13 Smith...3-inch, round butt, but I'm limited to 6. :p

[XMP]

5 1911s: one in 9mm, one Commander-sized and 4 .45 5" (preferably including a Springfiled Pro and series 70 Colts).

1 S&W 686 because you have to have one revovler and this is the most versatile.

Best part: I do in fact have all these and more :D

[kevin387]

unarmed shooter, great post

You have gotten a ton of responses and it would definetly be hard to choose but I have shot a fair bit and I'll tell you what I would get if knowing what I now know and limited to six and going with your probable intended uses. In no particular order I would probably end up with the following:

Ruger MKII 5 1/2 bull barrel stainless
Sig P220ST
Ruger GP-100 .357 stainless 4" barrell
Thompson Encore, maybe Contender if I didn't want to shoot the punishing stuff
Baretta 92FS
Kahr K-40

I would also want a Ruger Super Redhawk in 44 but am not sure which I would replace if any.

They are all different calibers and cover the spectrum from fun plinking, CCW (NA), hunting (NA), personal defense and a variety of shooting sports except SASS in which case I would swap out the Baretta or Sig for a new Ruger Vaquero.

[Surefire]

My choices:

Sig P239 9mm
Sig P220 ST .45 ACP
Ruger Single-Six .22 LR (cheap shooting)
S&W 686+ 4" .357 Magnum
Ruger GP 100 6" .357 magnum
Ruger Redhawk .44 magnum

[.44walkersabot]

Three (3) Colt Walker .44's.
Three (3) Colt 1849 Pocket .31's with four (4) inch barrels..

[Just Jim]

Early Kimber 1911 (and their 22 conversion kit)
Pre Lock 4 inch Model 29
Colt 22 Diamondback
Browning High Power
K38 (mod 14) Smith&Wesson
Cot SAA with 4and 3/4 barrell in 45colt

jim

[XD-40 Shooter]

My choices :

1) Ruger 22/45
2) Taurus Tracker 357 mag 4" ( Some people poo-poo Taurus, mine has been awesome).
3) SA-XD40 4"
4) Ruger Redhawk 44 mag 4"
5) Even though I'm not a huge fan of 45 ACP, a good 1911 would be nice.:D
6) Kel-Tec PF-9 for concealed carry.

[Silvanus]

Glock 17*
S&W 66 4"* (or 19 4"*, that would be a tough decision...)
Sig Sauer P220
S&W 60* or Glock 26
Browning HP*
A good .22 semi-auto (I like my Sig Mosquito*, but it's only reliable with 2 brands of ammo out of more than 10 I tried)
S&W DA .44 or .45Colt revolver



Those marked with * I already own.

[tnieto2004]

1. .45 ACP 1911. Ed Brown, STI, Colt, Kimber, or Springfield.

2. .22 Ruger semi-auto

3. 9mm Glock 19

4. .357 4" S&W 686 or Ruger GP100

5. .357 2" S&W J-frame

6. .40 Sig P226ST, 9mm Hk P7M13, or .9mm CZ 75 SP-01

That sounds like a good list .. I would do something like that

[lev83]

S&W Model 41 .22 LR
S&W Model 66
Colt 1911 Gold Cup S70 National Match
Colt 1911 Gold Cup Trophy S80
Colt 1911 XSE Combat Commander
Colt Diamondback

[1man]

For me, it would be the following;

1. S&W 640(.38 special only)

2. HK USP45 Tactical(full-size or Compact-perfered)

3. 1911(Wilson CQB or Springfield Loaded) w/ rails for tac-light

4. Glock 19 9mm with a 22LR kit

5. S&W 4"bbl 686-4and older(firing pin must be on the hammer instead of frame-mounted and must be 6-shot because the speedloader are more available)

6. S&W 6"bbl 629-4and older(firing pin must be on the hammer instead of frame-mounted and must be 6-shot because the speedloader are more available)

[possum]

my picks are
springfield xd service model, your caliber choice
springfield xd sc, your caliber choice
springfield 1911 your choice but i like the operator and the loaded models.
glock 19
s&w model 19 if you can get one if not a good .357 revolver,
H&k usp in .40

[Magnum.35744]

Here are my choices if money weren't an issue (of course):D.

1. Smith and Wesson 686 Plus .357 Magnum 4” Inch Barrel
2. Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum SS 6” Inch Barrel
3. Smith and Wesson PC 629 Special Hunter SS 6” Inch Barrel
4. Taurus Raging Bull .454 Casull SS 5” Inch Barrel
5. Desert Eagle .50 AE Brushed Chrome 6” Inch Barrel
6. Walther PPK .380 ACP 3” Inch Barrel

And just one more....I would also put down for a Smith And Wesson .500 Magnum SS with a 4" or 8 3-8" Inch Barrel :D. There you have it ;).

Take care, and good luck:).

P.S. I guess you could say I like the big-bore handguns:p!!!

[Shawnee]

Ruger Super-Single 6 6.5" (.22/,22 Mag
S&W 41 5" (.22)
Remington 1875 "Outlaw" 7.5"(.357/38 Special)
Ruger Super Blackhawk 7.5" (.44 Mag.)
Colt M1911 Series 70 Gold Cup (.45 Auto)
Encore 15" (.243 Win.) Stainless w/scope

:)

[6_gunner]

I would want something big and powerful enough for a service pistol or for home defense, something small enough for concealed carry in any situation, and a .22 for plinking. All of them would be in widely-available calibers; preferably, some should use interchangeable ammunition.
Here are my picks:

1) Smith and Wesson 1917
2) Colt 1911
3) Browning HiPower
4) Smith and Wesson model 10
5) Colt 1903 or maybe a snubby .38 (for concealed carry)
6) Ruger mkII

[Bad Company]

if I could only have 6 handguns for the rest of my life...

1. glock 34 (9mm longslide) for competition
2. glock 26 (9mm sub-compact) for regular use CCW
3. kahr pm9 for deep concelement
4. 5" .44 magnum for wilderness defense and general big bore fun
5. Browning Buckmark .22, ruger Mark III, or a walther p22 for plinking and training
6. a nice 1911 to fit the budget

(any of the 9mm pistols could be replaced with the same model in .40 (my favorite caliber, and what I carry) but 9mm is so cheap it's what I'm transitioning to myself.

[Deadheadted37]

1) S&W 629 .44 mag
2) Springfield XD9
3) Beretta 92s
4) Ruger GP-100 4" .357/.38
5) Bersa Thunder .380
6) Springfield 1911A1

[Gustav]

As a historical collection six centerfire pistols would be as follows

1873 SAA Colt .45 either 7 1/2" or better IMO a 4 3/4" barrel

1896 Mauser Broomhandle with shoulder stock and cleaning kit & harness

P-08 Luger 9mm dated pre 1914

Colt 1911 Pre WW I US Navy markings preferred

P-35 Belgian Pre WW II made High Power

Finnish L-35 Lahti 9mm


As a working collection six centerfire pistols would be as follows

S&W 629 4 inch .44 magnum as a backup or hunting pistol and as a trail gun for come what may.:D

S&W 66 or Ruger Security Six .357 magnum in stainless with a 4 inch barrel for small to medium critters and plinking;)

Sig 229R CT laser grips in .40 S&W with .357 Sig and 9mm barrels belt holster wear and a CCW piece also a good home defense pistol for just in case.

Colt Commander .45 ACP Satin Nickel (my baby:D) with .22 conversion kit

Thompson Center Stainless with barrels in .17HMR .22LR .223 .30-30 .44 magnum .45LC/410 and for big beasts if only using a handgun for hunting a .45-70, if you can't do it with these calibers it does not need to be done.
Its the Swiss Army knife of handguns.:neener:

Glock 23 with .22 conversion kit and 9mm barrel slide and parts.
Lightweight workhorse does not care about rain mud sand or salt water or hard use as its a combat tupperware bic meant to be used and not just looked at.
Great for CCW or as a backup with similar weight to a steel frame .38 snubbie with 13 plus rounds instead of 5 or 6 but in a smoother package.


Add one of two rimfires a S&W 63 4" kit gun or a Ruger MK II stainless .22 and make it a bakers dozen.:neener:

[Checkman]

Well it's been over two years since I contributed to this thread and I've changed my mind. Somewhat.

1) A (modern) 9mm handgun. Sig, Glock, H&K, Beretta, Walther, Ruger etc.
2) A good .357 magnum revolver either with a 4" or a 6" barrel. S&W or Ruger.
3) A 22 caliber Browning Buckmark.
4) The S&W Model 17 22 caliber revolver with the 6" barrel.
5) The S&W Model 649 Bodyguard in 357 magnum.
6) The Webley MK VI revolver because it's cool.

*I still like 45 acp but the recent ammo price increases and the shortage of 45 has turned me toward 9mm. More plentiful and more affordable.

[novaDAK]

I own 8 handguns currently, 6 of them are Ruger autos. I'm just a ruger nut ;)

[lee n. field]

The problem I have is that I can get only six handguns without going through walls of red tape.

Six. Hmm. I'd tend to go for classics myself.

Ruger Mark I, II or III. .22 for target or plinking.

A classic S&W wheelgun, in .38 Special or .357 Magnum.

A 1911 pattern .45. The closest thing to an "open source" handgun. Parts are abundantly available from any number of vendors. Magazines are inexpensive. .45 ACP is easy to handload. My choice would be, probably, a Springfield Mil Spec. Customize as desired.

Maybe a Glock or equivalent plastic Wundernine.

That's it. You don't need any more than that.

[geo815]

2 S&W 629 Classic 5 3/4"
2 S&W Model 19 or 686
2 Glock 27

[john1911]

1. Quality 1911. I shoot a Kimber.
2. 357 magnum revolver. S&W or Ruger.
3. 22 revolver or semi.
4. Big bore single action (.41, .44 or .45).
5. 9mm. I like the XD.
6. A duplicate of one of the above.

[colubrid]

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THESE CALIBERS:

full size 1911 (.45 auto)
Glock 19 (9mm)
J-frame S&W (.38 special)
N-frame S&W (.44 magnum)
Ruger - MkII or 22/45 (22's)

[Ninja42]

Are you absolutely sure that you can get smaller pistols that are obivously not intended for competition use? Until very recently I thought that I could do the same thing here in Denmark, but aparently guns that meassure less than 210mm in length are considered 'dangerously concealable', and are therefore not considered safe enough for civilian ownership. The gunsmith who sold (and 'upgraded' my CZ75 with a slightly longer and more 'safe' barrel) told me that it was an EU law, and in that case it will affect you too.

Someone somewhere in this thread stated that The Viking probably wasent interested in CCW size weapons, as he couldnt carry concealed legally, but I say go for it if you can! The S is as likely to hit the F here in Europe as it is anywhere else, and should it happen we will definately need a defensive handgun that can be held out of sight until the right moment!*

Other than that, here is what I would get:

1) A full size 9mm with high capacity mags. I chose a CZ75b for this role, and I love it! You may also want to stock up on high cap mags before the EU legislators find out about the limited capacity 10 round mags avaliable in the US.
2) A .22 LR pistol. Because inexpensive training equals more training.
3) A .38/.357 mag revolver. It lets you keep the brass when you shoot, which is a nice thing. I would choose a 4" for versatility.
4) A CCW gun. By all means, prepare for the worst. It may not seem that useful right now, but look at where we are heading and imagine how this part of the world looks in 10-12 years. If your migration-to-the-US plan fails, you will most likely need it.
5) A rifle, preferably semi-auto if you can get one. We can buy the Ruger mini series over here though we can only get 5-round mags, but it is still VERY supirior to a pistol when it comes to defence, and legal for hunting which is a good thing. Get a caliber that can knock down a moose :D
6) A shotgun. Preferably a pump or semi if there is no limit on your mag size, but if you also suffer under a law that limits your maximum mag capacity to 1, you might as well get a good O/U or a S/S.

* Discalimer: I do not suggest The Viking to carry his gun illegally. Hiding a weapon out of sight can still be useful, even if we dont carry our guns in public where such a thing would be illegal. Always abide by the laws of your society, no matter if you agree with them or not.

EDIT: About 4), you might be able to get a Makarov PM or a PPK, if you can convince your local law enforcement that you are interested in world history. In theory the police can give you a permit to own a 'historically significant' weapon if you can document such an interest.

[KrankyKraut]

In no particular order:

1) Luger P-08
2) Hi-Power
3) Colt or Springfield 1911 5"
4) S&W Model 19
5) Colt Detective Special
6) CZ PO-1

[Maximum1]

Six handguns only...Pretty much the same ones I currently own:

SpringField XD9 Sub-Compact
Kel-Tec P-11
1911
Kel-Tec P-32
S&W Model19 Magnum

==> I holding out for one more but havn't decided: either the Walther PPS or the new Beretta Storm.

[RPCVYemen]

What would I pick?

I'd pick one and shoot it until I had learned all I wanted to learn from it, and then I would pick another. I bought a Blackhawk, and over the period of a year or so, I have pretty much become ready for another gun.

I did pick up a little 22 auto for taking nieces/nephews shooting.

Buying six in a hurry sounds to my ears like a way to get proficient with none of them. But you did say that you were "returning" to guns, so maybe you're already proficient with all of them.

Mike

[doc2rn]

1) Ruger MKII or III target / Browning Buckmark .22
2) Glock 17 or 19 / Springfield XD /Sig 9mm or .40
3) S&W 686 or GP100 .357
4) Colt/ Glock/ Kimber .45
5) Redhawk / S&W .44 Mag
6) Saved for when that something new comes out that you just gotta have.

[GroovedG19]

.22LR pistol or revolver, .357magnum revolver, 9x19mm pistol, .45ACP, and two more whatever you like.:D

[amper]

First of all, I generally prefer revolvers to autoloaders for all the traditional reasons, so this is reflected in my choices.

1. Smith & Wesson Model 617, .22 LR, 10-shot, 4" barrel

The .22 LR revolver is one of the single most versatile weapons you can possess. It covers cheap target shooting and training as well as small game hunting.

2. Smith & Wesson Model 686 Plus, .357 Magnum, 7-shot, 4" barrel

The .357 Magnum revolver is the next step up in performance. It covers the range from light duty to heavy duty anti-personnel purposes. It's a very useful tool for helping to train shooters up through the increasing power levels of ammunition, starting with .38 Special, and working up to full-bore .357 Magnum.

3. Smith & Wesson Model 629, .44 Magnum, 4" barrel

The mainstay of my arsenal. .44 Specials are my first choice for an anti-personnel revolver caliber for most purposes, and .44 Magnum can handle most dangerous animals. If I could only have one weapon, this would be the one.

4. Smith & Wesson Model 610, 10mm Auto, 4" barrel

I picked this one because it's a revolver that fires two useful calibers and gived me ammunition commonality with the autoloaders, below. While 10mm Auto doesn't give you the power of .44 Magnum, it can be loaded to .41 Magnum territory, and the .40 S&W capability gives you better power than a .38 Special +P, and less recoil energy than a .357 Magnum.

5. Beretta Model 96 Inox, .40 S&W, or Glock 22, .40 S&W

For most purposes, I have little need for a high-capacity autoloader, but when I think I might have need for one, nothing will easily substitute, so it's the military proven Beretta design or the police proven Glock design that I choose.

6. Kahr T40 or K40, .40 S&W

This is what I currently think is the best compromise in a concealed carry weapon. While I would prefer a .44 Special revolver, the bulk of the revolver can be a hindrance, so I choose the smaller package of the Kahr autoloader. It's small, thin, and still fires a full-size cartridge.


With these six handguns, I would feel well-equipped for just about any conceivable situation.

[bwavec]

1) HK USP .45 fullsize

2) HK USP .45 compact

(Or the forthcoming HK45 in fullsize and compact variants)

3) S&W M66 .357mag revolver

4) Some sort of reliable .22 autoloader

As for the last two.....save the $$$ and pick up a couple of long guns like a 12ga pump shotgun (Rem 870 or Mossberg 500/590) and an AR15 or AK variant.

[The Ruckus]

Glock 19
Springfield XD40
SA "Loaded" 1911
Ruger SP101 357MAG
Browning Hi Power MKIII 9MM
NAA 32ACP

[hyphen]

This is how my list goes...I'm still working on actually filling my armament though.

1. High capacity auto-loader, home defense. Probably something in .40S&W .45ACP, metal frame.

2. Backup for #1 or vice versa, a good and reliable polymer frame firearm like the XD or Glock.

3. .38 snub nose revolver in case the need for concealment arrives. CCW is not likely to ever happen in my state either, but we've had more riots here than I care to have in my lifetime. And if we have another you best believe I will be carrying, illegal or not. (please refer to the los angeles riots and the korean community).

4. .357 4"-6" barrel revolver, this can also serve as the backup to #1 or vice versa. Also can serve as protection during outdoors activities.

5. .44mag or larger revolver in the event that you are in large predator territory and don't want to carry a shotgun.

6. A gun that a dainty woman can fire with ease, .22. I had my girlfriend fire my .357 and she hit the PAPER once out of 6 shots from 15 yards, 4/6 hit the paper from 10 yards with .38 rounds and no sort of grouping whatsoever. On top of that she is afraid to shoot it because the recoil scares her. After I get my autoloader I may invest in a "pretty" .22 gun for her, something like a Walther PPK or a revolver from the S&W ladysmith line.

I won't name brands because I don't have enough experience, but this is what I'm aiming for. Additionally, I would add an auto-loading rifle and a pump action shotgun to the list "just in case". You never know when you might need to feed your family in some other way than visiting the grocery store.

Personally, I think 4 handguns and 2 long guns is more than enough for the average person. But then again, I don't really think members here have the "average" outlook on firearms.

[Redhawk1]

S&W model 411 in 40 S&W as my CCW
S&W 460 Mag PC model with 7.5 inch barrel
S&W 500 Mag with 4 inch barrel
Springfield 1911 45ACP
BFR 500 Mag
Ruger blackhack 45 Colt.

Funny thing is, I would pick the guns I already own, but I have a bunch more than I listed, so I am glad six is not a realistic number.

[Mannix]

My list is pretty flexible.

1.) Ruger MKII(I) or other .22 handgun(semi or revolver), because everyone has to have a .22.
2.) CZ 75 9mm/40S&W Compact or other CC-able pistol (preferably with high cap mags) with available .22 conversion, because cheap training is an advantage for a carry piece.
3.) Ruger GP100 or other 357mag revolver, because I might feel the need to shoot some 4 legged critters with a handgun.
4.) Kel Tec P3AT or other pocket gun(revolver or semi), for when printing could cause some serious problems.
5.) 1911 of some sort, because every man(and woman) should have a 1911.
6.) Some sort of C&B revolver, just because.

The last two or more or less just "because I like them" choices. The others I would consider to have a purpose.

[Radagast]

Here in Australia we can only own pistols for target shooting and must justify each purchase.

Calibre conversion kits must be registered, but do not require a permit to acquire if you alrready own a frame to put them on. Look into this further. My Bul M5 1911 has both 9mm and .38 super barrels and I will probably buy a .357 sig conversion next year.

My suggestions are as follows:

1) .22LR. My preference is the Ruger Single Six convertible in .22lr and .22 magnum. This gun is just plain relaxing and fun to shoot. Get a stainless steel one. If you want an automatic look at the Browning Buckmark. There are more specialised .22s for olympic/ISSF bullseye shooting, but the two above are cheap, reliable, accurate and fun.

2) CZ75 SP01 Shadow. This will be your 9mm service pistol. I recommend the shadow because it has already been tuned for competition and will do well in IPSC Production Division, IDPA Stock Service Pistol and will get by in Steel challenge, NRA Action Match & Service / WA1500. It'll also do the job as a holstered side arm if needed. Get a Kadet .22 conversion unit for it if you can.

3) S&W 686 6 inch barrel in .357 magnum. Good for plinking, small game hunting, club bullseye competition and in a pinch IPSC or ICORE competition. It can also be used for the 100 meter silhouette match.

4) STI Edge in .40 S&W. Polymer framed 1911 with exceptionally close tolerances, high capacity, accurate, reliable and the winning gun in IPSC Standard Division.

5) STI Legacy single stack 1911 .45 ACP. Because everyone should own a .45 1911 and this is one of the best and should be available through a european distributor.

6) Consider a historical firearm such as a Webley in .455 or a replica of the Colt single action army in .45 Long Colt. The latter could also be used for cowboy shooting (SASS).

There you go: six calibres, single action and double action in both revolvers and autos. Suitable for multiple competitions, hunting, plinking and self defence.

[Fishman777]

Here are six handguns that I'd choose:

1. Ruger GP100, 4", Stainless, with hogue grips, .357 magnum
2. Ruger Single Six Hunter, 7.5", Stainless, .22lr/.22 magnum
3. Ruger Redhawk, 4", Stainless, .44 magnum
4. Ruger sp101, 3" Stainless, .327 magnum
5. Glock 20
6. Glock 19

[TimboKhan]

It sucks that you can only have 6, but you can put together a really nice collection in 6 guns. For me, I could live with 2 guns if I had to: .22 pistol, .357 revolver. If I was going to add a third, it would be a .45 ACP autoloader of some type, then a 9mm auto of some type, Then a .44Mag revolver, and finally, another .22. Notice I am not listing brands, as that is pretty subjective, but I will say that I lean heavily towards S&W, Ruger and Taurus.

[Hokkmike]

A .22 stainless 9 round revolver for utility.

A large bore (probably .44 magnum) long barreled revolver for hunting and large animal defense. Maybe a super Redhawk?

A high capacity .40 or .45 caliber semi auto for personal protection.

One of those single shot pistols in a rifle caliber of .223 or larger for hunting game.

A deringer or mouse gun to hide away on me some where....

And for #6, (hmmmmmm) a very accurate .22 semi auto for up close and quiet work.

[LAR-15]

For target shooting some type of .22 LR/Short pistol

And some type of 9mm (9x21 or 9x19) for target shooting

And whatever else is suitable for target shooting in your area

9mms and .22 rimfires are good universal target calibers

I've heard that .22 caliber pistols can be used for trapping badgers in Sweden but I don't know if that is true or not.

[BlindJustice]

Sweden limits total handguns for individuals huh?

Ok, I'll play since I happen to have six myself.

1) since you have this six-pack limit, why not go with
a Thompson Center G2 Contender start with a
barrel in .22 LR. fixed sights then choose a caliber
for centerfire, T/C offers 15 calibers, and
BullBerry makes a bunch more and will also do a
custom request for silouhette shoots

2) 1911 in .45 ACP
2A - .400 CorBon Barrel ( mine is from Jarvis )
2B - .22 LR Conversion - several to choose from
depends on what you want plinking or target

3) S & W 625 in .45 ACP / .45 Auto RIm - these are
very good at revolver matches with the full moon clips

4) S & W 686P 4" Bbl. Len. .357 Mag/.38 +P
lots of ammo choices

5) S & W Model 60 3" Bbl. Len. .357 Mag./.38 +P
Verra comfy with Speer Gold dot 135 gr. +P
6) S & W Model 617 6" Bbl. Len. 10 shot cyl.
plinking/target just a fun gun to shoot.

SInce you're in EUrope I'd recommend a 9mm
in whatever platform that floats your boat. as
a sub.for the 617 or substitute a Walther
PPK/S for the model 60

[amper]

I just re-read through the thread, and I've paid more attention to the sorts of restrictions that Viking has to deal with, so I'm going to explain a bit more about my choices with respect to his situation and possibly modify a choice or two.

Viking's situation in Sweden isn't that much different than what we face here in New Jersey, excepting that we don't generally have to justify particular weapons. Carry is practically non-existent here, handgun hunting is effectively illegal, and we have to get a permit for each individual handgun purchase. At least we're not limited to only six substantially differing choices that need to be justified.

What I'll outline here is what I think is a well-thought purchase program for anyone desiring to build up a useful arsenal. My choices may not be the same as others', but I think you'll agree it makes good sense, bearing in mind that you may at some point have to train a wife or your children to use firearms. In fact, I think I can get every job done that I would want a handgun to handle in less than six examples, which means I can even be a little frivolous in one or two of my selections.

I'll also make note of typical muzzle energies for particular calibers using premium ammunition to help give you an idea of the relative level of power you'll be shooting. The numbers I've chosen are based on Winchester Super-X Silvertip hollow point loads (and glances at Federal's offerings), with the exception of .22 LR, where I use CCI Mini-Mag HV and HP. Not that these particular loads are appropriate for every purpose, or that they are necessarily the only choices out there, but it helps provide perspective.

Pay more attention to the capabilities of each of my selections rather than the particular models/brands. There are equivalent models from other manufacturers. I just listed the ones I like best.


Purchase #1 - Smith & Wesson Model 617 . 22 LR revolver, 10-shot cylinder, 4" barrel.

Shoot .22 LR frequently to keep up your weapon skills. This is the traditional introductory caliber, and it remains a mainstay in many people's arsenals. Typical muzzle energy for .22 LR is in the 100 to 150 ft-lb range, producing minimal recoil for most people.

Purchase #2 - Smith & Wesson Model 686 Plus .357 Magnum revolver, 7-shot cylinder, 4" barrel.

Start shooting .38 Special cartidges, move up to .38 Special +P. These are, IMO, the minimum calibers that you want to consider for anti-personnel purposes. Typical muzzle energy for .38 Special is about 200 to 220 ft-lb, and is considered easily handled by most any shooter. Muzzle energy for .38 Special +P climbs to the 250 ft-lb range.

Purchase #3 - Smith & Wesson Model 629 .44 Magnum revolver, 6-shot cylinder, 4" barrel

Use this with .44 Special cartridges initially. IMO, the .44 Special is an ideal caliber for self-defense. Typical muzzle energy for .44 Special is about 350 ft-lb.

Purchase #4 - A full-size service pistol in .40 S&W. My preference would be either the Beretta Model 96 or Glock Model 22.

I prefer the .40 S&W to the 9mm Parabellum. It's not much bulkier, though you may lose a round or two in magazine capacity, but the stopping power is much better. Most people can handle the .40 S&W recoil, especially once they've already progressed up through the preceding calibers. Typical muzzle energy for .40 S&W runs in the 400-500 ft-lb range, depending on particular brand of ammo.


OK, now you have four handguns that are all substantially different in purpose, which should be easily justifiable to the authorities, assuming that caliber selection is in itself sufficient distinction. Now it's time to start branching out for versatility.

Purchase #5 - Smith & Wesson Model 610 10mm Auto revolver, 4" barrel.

Once you've mastered the above calibers, you can start shooting the .40 S&W in the Model 610. As with .44 Special, .40 S&W is an ideal anti-personnel caliber, and you'll have the traditional advantages of a revolver over an autoloader for those cases where it makes sense.



Now we can start bumping up the power levels, thinking in terms of hunting and dangerous animal protection. Grab that Model 686 Plus, and start loading up the .357 Magnum cartridges. You're looking at about 500-550 ft-lb of muzzle energy here, which is considered quite a handful for most shooters. Many people may not be comfortable shooting this caliber on a regular basis, especially in lighter weight weapons.

Your next caliber choice can be 10mm Auto in the Model 610 revolver. Now, we're getting our muzzle energy up into the 650 ft-lb range.

Next, try your Model 629 with .44 Magnum loads. Now, we're looking at the area of 750 ft-lb of muzzle energy for our chosen hollow points, with hunting loads climbing into the 800's or even going upwards of 1000 ft-lbs. That will take care of even large bears.



Now that we've progressed up through the power ranges, we can think about specialized weapons. Concealed carry may not be a reality in Sweden or New Jersey, but it's something you really need to consider anyway, for there may come a day when you need to strongly consider carrying. As they say, better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have one.

Purchase #6 - Kahr Arms T40 or K40 .40 S&W autoloader (or your choice of weapon designed for concealability in a "normal" caliber).

The Kahr line are all single-stack magazine, small profile, striker fired pistols that fire popular service calibers. My preferences are for the metal framed .40 S&W models that have a large enough grip to hold all three fingers.

I truly think that getting a good grip on the weapon is somewhat more important than absolute size, and no one would really consider any of the Kahr offerings to be "large" weapons, anyway. This is the same reason why I don't really consider small-framed revolvers. Even with the ones that offer a three-finger grip, the bulk is too much greater than that of a single-stack autoloader for me to be comfortable. Concealable carry weapons are always a compromise.

The biggest problem with the Kahr as it relates to Viking's situation in Sweden is that it may be difficult to justify to the authorities when you already own a .40 S&W service pistol. In that case, I would strongly consider changing Purchase #4, above, to a compact version of any of the popular service pistols, like the Glock 23. This gives you enhanced concealability, should it become needed, while retaining a nearly full-size frame profile.

In that case, I would change Purchase #6 to a compact service pistol in a different caliber that would give you ammunition commonality with someone else you know, probably in 9mm Parabellum or .45 ACP, like a Glock 19 or the hopefully forthcoming compact .45 ACP Glock. I'm not a Glock nut, though I do like them rather a lot. I'm just using them as an example because they produce so many different flavors in categorized sizes. There are many suitable choices out there in proven service pistols Check out the recent "Best Combat Pistol" thread for thoughts on the topic.


OK, now you have a truly versatile arsenal of weapons that you will probably not feel the need to replace with better examples, and that will capably handle just about any situation on the planet. You can shoot them, your wife can shoot them, your kids can shoot them, and you may even be able to swap ammo with friends in a pinch. Of course, if your friends follow the same example, you can then fit in an oddball weapon or two just for fun and not feel as if you've wasted a choice.

Don't let this last point escape you. Whatever weapons you choose, get your spouse or some other companion that you would trust with your life and have them purchase and train with the exact same weapons you have, so that you can always provide a backup of ammunition and spare weapons to each other.

[GaryP]

Well let me see?

1. Colt SS Combat Coimmander .45acp
2. Colt Delta Elite 10mm
3. Colt Combat Elite .45acp
4. Ruger KP345PR .45acp
5. HK SS USP45F .45acp
6. Ruger SP101 2.25" Magna-Port .357 Mag
. NAA Black Widow .22/.22Mag -- OOPS That's seven
...................................................Sorry Gotta Have it (BUG)
.................................................. I'll hide it somewhere :D


:evil:

[Hoppy590]

no order, but if this was me.

Para Ord p14-45
BHP
.357 snubbie
Colt 1903 pocket hammerless
high standards .22
Sig 220, maybe that new 250

[SDDL-UP]

CZ-75B Stainless

Kimber 1911

Browning Hi-Power

Glock 22

Ruger Mark II (or Mark III)

Dan Wesson 715 Pistol Pack (357 Magnum with interchangeable barrels)

There! I'm pretty sure that's the ultimate from my perspective!

[hemiram]

Mine would be:

Pocket Gun: S&W 3913 or Shorty Forty, or Astra A-75(I've had a lot better luck with the Astra, to be honest)
9mm: CZ SP-01
40 S&W: Sig 226
357 Magnum: Dan Wesson Model 715
44 Magnum: Dan Wesson 744
45ACP: CZ97B or EAA Witness

Not a 1911 to be seen anywhere.

[md7]

Sig 226 in .40 for HD
Glock 23 for ccw and truck
Ruger 22/45 .22 for plinking
SW 642/442/638 for pocket
Ruger GP 100 4" or SW 686 because everybody needs a good .357
Sig 220/Glock 21 for a .45

[10-Ring]

Let's see, I'd go...
1. HK USP 45
2. Colt 1911
3. Glock 19
4. Colt Python
5. S&W model 17
6. S&W j-frame

[skidooman]

1. Kimber full size 1911
2. Kimber alum. frame 3" 1911
3. Glock 27
4. Double action revolver, .44 mag or .357
5. single action revolver, .44 mag or .357
6. Ruger 22/45. KP512, I believe to be the model...

[kbellis3]

If I was limited to only six handguns this would be my set-up. Your rules are different and you list should reflect your environment.


1. Glock 17 (can be fitted with .22 conversion kit)

2. Glock 26(Bug for the G-17, accepts G-17 mags)

3. 1911-A1 (can be fitted with .22 conversion kit)

4. 1911 Commander or Officer (BUG for the 1911-A, can accept full sized 1911 mags)

5. .357 Magnum Revolver (4-6inch barrel 4 being preffered can be used for some hunting, can also be loaded with .38 specials.)

6. .357 Magnum Snubby (BUG for the .357 can be loaded with .38 Specials)

If you need a .22 get a conversion kit for the Glock or the 1911-A1. This should cover all of your basic needs for firearms. Plenty of spare parts, mags, speed loaders, and ammo.

K-3

[warriorsociologist]

My list has been updated to reflect 6 of the remaining 7 handguns I still own:

1) S&W 657-0 6" (.41 mag.)
2) S&W 686-4 6" (.38 spec/.357 mag)
3) S&W 66-5 4" (.38 spec/.357 mag)
4) S&W 642-1 (.38 spec)
5) S&W 18-3 4" (.22LR)
6) Glock 19 (9mm) *with a AA .22LR upper kit

[Fishman777]

1. Ruger GP100, 4", Stainless Steel, hogue grips, .357 magnum

In my book, the most durable and reliable .357 magnum revolver on the market. It is also an excellent shooter. This would be the gun that I'd choose if I could only have one gun.

2. Sig p250, Two-toned

Still not released, but seems like a truly *revolutionary* gun. From what I've read on the Sig Forum, this gun really looks like the "future" in handgun design. Think of it: one modular gun that can have up to nine different grips and two triggers. Nine grips, not a cheap looking hunk of pastic that has removable panels. In the future, Sig plans to release kits that would enable you to convert the gun between full, compact, and subcompact barrels and slides. You would also be able to switch between calibers in a similiar fashion. They will be releasing DAO first, then a DA/SA. I would still prefer a .357 mag or a .44 mag revolver if I could only have one gun, but this would be the second gun on my list.

3. Ruger sp101, 3", Stainless Steel, hogue grips, .327 magnum

Good house gun for the rest of the non-shooters in the family. Packs a punch without .357 magnum recoil. Allows the owner to shoot four different types of .32 rounds.

4. Ruger RedHawk, 4", Stainless Steel, .44 magnum

Can load this gun up with the "Ruger only" 330 grain Buffalo Bore Hardcast loads. Nasty, nasty, nasty .44 rounds. This would be my choice for a trail handgun in Bear country.

5. Ruger Single Six Hunter, 7.5", Stainless Steel, .22lr/.22mag

This would be a good range gun and it would also be good gun to hunt small game.

6. I don't even think that I'd need a sixth, but if I did get a sixth handgun, I'd get a Beretta 90two.

Light recoil, very reliable, high capacity.

[ldp4570]

1. Browning HP 9MM
2. S&W 41 .22lr
3. S&W 17 .22lr
4. S&W 14 .38spl
5. S&W 67 .38spl
6. 1911A1 .45ACP

[BrennanKG]

1) Govt 1911 (Most likely Eb Brown SF sans rollmarks, with ambi safety)

2) Sig P226 Elite 9mm

3) S&W 327 TRR8 (8 shot 357mag)

4) AWC Badlander (suppressed Ruger MkII)

5) HK P7M8

6) HK45



B.

[Bill B.]

Kimber 1911 Series 1 45 ACP Stainless fullsize
S&W 625 45 ACP 4"
S&W PC 627 357 Mag. 8 Times 5"
S&W 25-2 Model of 1955 45 ACP 6 1/2"
Sig 230 Stainless .380 ACP
Ruger MK II Target .22 5 1/4" Taper barrel

I could easily live with those six and cover about everything you could ever need a handgun for .........

[sm]

Three Gov't Models of 1911, bone stock, 7 round USGI /Colt Mags
Three 3" HB RB K frames.

I believe in redundancy.

[S&W620]

1. HK Mark 23

2. Ed Brown Executive Elite

3. Sig 220

4. Glock 19

5. S&W 629