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Hawken50
May 9, 2005, 11:56 PM
why does walmart ask you if .22 ammo is for a handgun? are they keeping track? i always say no just out of principle. what do they do with the information if you say yes? what do they do if you say "none of your business"?

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Hawkmoon
May 10, 2005, 12:09 AM
Age restriction. You have to be 21 to buy handgun ammo, 18 to buy rifle ammo.

fredcwdoc
May 10, 2005, 12:43 AM
It's not just Walmart. My daughter who just turned 20 has had problems in several local firearm stores. 22's are the only problem.

chris in va
May 10, 2005, 12:57 AM
Depends on which WalMart you go to. They never ask me at the store 35 miles from DC, but the one 15 miles away from the District of Crime had a clerk actually escort me to the front of the store, stare me down while I checked out and ask why I needed "4 boxes of bullets".

Yes, I was carrying. ;)

ckyllo
May 10, 2005, 09:15 AM
it is more fun to answer with the sub-machinegun. makes their eyes go like :what: . that or ask them if I say rifle and than decide to use it in a handgun do I need to bring them back? should I mark the box to keep track? when they are thinking about it I than let them off the hook and just say that I am old enough that it doesnt make a ratts butt of a differance on what I use them on. most clerks just ring it off and are done with it.

shermacman
May 10, 2005, 09:44 AM
I am older than dirt and I look it.
No one at Wally World has ever asked "hand gun or rifle". So I assume the question is age based.
Ever been asked that question when you buy 12 gauge ammo? :D

Werewolf
May 10, 2005, 09:55 AM
but the one 15 miles away from the District of Crime had a clerk actually escort me to the front of the store, stare me down while I checked out and ask why I needed "4 boxes of bullets".What was your response to the blissninny busybody?

Mongo the Mutterer
May 10, 2005, 09:57 AM
Same thing happened to me. Young gal at checkout asked me the handgun question. They are only concerned with the customers age.

Since I am older than dirt I don't know why she asked, but I told her anyway.

Rupestris
May 10, 2005, 10:14 AM
Just point to the box and ask:

"Do you know what the "R" in .22LR stands for?" :evil:

jefnvk
May 10, 2005, 10:23 AM
Think maybe we could sticky a 'Why Wal-Mart asks if it is for handgun/long gun' thread?

Federal law prhoibits an FFL holder from selling handgun ammo to anyone under 21, and long gun ammo to anyone under 18. To deal with this, Wal-Mart has their computer ask what the ammo is for, so their cashiers know what age you need to be to buy it.

If you say no (it doesn't matter if it is out of principle, or truth, or you trying to get around the age limit), the computer will tell the cashier you must be 18. If you say yes, the computer will tell the cashier you must be 21. You aren't being entered into some gun owner's database. They are simply complying with federal law the bes they can.

Checkman
May 10, 2005, 10:44 AM
In my area nobody asks. It dosen't matter if it's a Wal-Mart,K Mart, local drugstore, nobody asks. I count myself lucky to live here.

20cows
May 10, 2005, 12:08 PM
The law and policy may be about age, but the practice is not. I just bought two bulk packs of 22's, Fed for my 10-22 and Rem for my K. The little girl at the checkstand asked me (an obvious fossil) the question. When I asked what bussiness it was of hers, she got red faced and said she had to ask. I then answered the question in far more detail than she was prepared to accept (an old teacher trick for when students ask superfluous questions).

I love the confused look I get when that happens.

Mongo the Mutterer
May 10, 2005, 01:17 PM
How do you answer "in far more detail"? Sounds like a good strategy for people who are nosey. :D

20cows
May 10, 2005, 01:35 PM
I explained that the Federals were for the 10/22 because they feed more reliably in that rifle, but the K-22 didn't like them because they don't burn as cleanly and this can cause cases to stick in the famously tight cylinder of that particular firearm. Lots of detail. (Imagine me taking ~50 lines of text to explain).

GunnyBob
May 10, 2005, 03:01 PM
From both personal experience as well as anecdotal information from those I've known who have been employed by them, WalMart makes up whatever "rule" they so desire. I stopped frequenting one of the local stores because of a deal they made with the County Sheriff. As a "courtesy" to him, they ask for a valid drivers license for any ammunition purchase, then call a department manager to rush off and make a photocopy. You wait as long as it takes, and it bears no resemblance to any local, state or federal law.

I'm an easygoing fellow my most accounts, but considered this to be a bit much and took my business elsewhere.

Infidel
May 10, 2005, 03:10 PM
It amazes me, and saddens me, to see people brag about harassing a poor checkout clerk who is just trying to make a living and whose cash register demands, per company policy based on Federal law, that she ask a simple question and verify age in the case of a particular answer.

The question is simple, it is reasonable in the light of the law (which is not reasonable), and harassing the clerk just seems to me to be a puerile and petty, silly ego trip.

countertop
May 10, 2005, 03:20 PM
I must be the luckiest guy in the world, cause I don't think I've ever had a bad experience in a Wal Mart - or at least haven't had an experience so bad that I would want to harrass the poor guy making minimum wage and struggling to stay employed and put food on the table who was just following orders.

Chris, which Wal Mart are you talking about? I presume you mean the one in Fair Lakes - where I usually shop. Never had a problem there - other than trying to race over from the NRA Range and buy ammo and seeing other folks from the range running down the aisle to buy the rest of the ammo in stock. Actually, the only time they've ever excorted me out or given me more than a second glance at a wal mart was the one in Dulles Town Center when I purchased a shotgun for my Father In Laws Christmas present. The manager ended up escorting me out, talking guns to me, and apologized about the silly rule but said they had no choice that the regional manager implemented it at the suggestion of the insurance company.

The Drew
May 10, 2005, 03:26 PM
There are two types of clerks, those who know why they are being asked the question and those who don't, Those who know better, usually look at the customer and if they look of questionable age (like all the other age check alerts in the register) they ask for proof of age. If not they just punch through.

brickeyee
May 10, 2005, 03:28 PM
This kind if stuff is so stupid.
If you are hell bent on killing someone you can load up in the parking lot.
If you want to rob the place, you have a really bad start since they have your name and address on the 4473 in the back.

whm1974
May 10, 2005, 03:29 PM
Depends on which WalMart you go to. They never ask me at the store 35 miles from DC, but the one 15 miles away from the District of Crime had a clerk actually escort me to the front of the store, stare me down while I checked out and ask why I needed "4 boxes of bullets".

THis clerk must have never shot a gun before. For some reason non-gun owners acted shocked when I tell them I'll shoot 500 rounds of .22 and at least 100 rounds of .38 in one day.

It is my understanding that a dealer can sell handgun ammo to someone under 21 if he is going to use it in a rifle. So will Walmart sell handgun ammo to an 18 year old if he tell them it's for a rifle?

-Bill

marshall3
May 10, 2005, 06:15 PM
My 2.5 cents for today. I quit buying cheap ammo at WalMart because I came to realize that the local gun shop needs my business, and your business, to stay in business. We need to do all we can to keep our gun shops in business. :)

Daemon688
May 10, 2005, 06:27 PM
It is my understanding that a dealer can sell handgun ammo to someone under 21 if he is going to use it in a rifle. So will Walmart sell handgun ammo to an 18 year old if he tell them it's for a rifle?

I was picking up some cetane and saw they had 9mm on sale. When I tried paying for my items; they asked me if it was rifle/handgun and I told the guy rifle. Still got denied :banghead: To top it off, they had to card me for buying cetane. I hate walmart, it's too bad they're the only place that sells cetane around here.

jefnvk
May 10, 2005, 07:16 PM
So will Walmart sell handgun ammo to an 18 year old if he tell them it's for a rifle?

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF ASKING WHETHER THE AMMO IS FOR A RIFLE OR HANDGUN!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Sorry if I sound mad, see post #10. Too many Wal-Mart threads today :rolleyes:

scout26
May 10, 2005, 07:26 PM
Never been asked that question in Wallyworld, probably because we have to show our FOID card to by ammo, but if I ever was asked that question I be very tempted to just open up the 500 round bulk pack of .22 and start counting 'em.

"These 14 right here will go into the Marlin 60, that's a rifle and that's all she'll hold at one time."

"These nine I'll load in my Taurus revolver, but I bet this one will be a dud, so I'll use this cartridge over here to take it's place. So that I will still end up with nine holes in my target."

"My 11 y.o. daughter will get these 30 to shoot in her Cricket rifle." I'll also give her these 27 cartridges to shoot in the Taurus. She can do that If I or my wife are with her even though she has her own FOID card."

"Now these 10 over here my wife will use in her Ruger target pistol...... "

shermacman
May 10, 2005, 08:22 PM
Excellent Scout26!
I have three .22 rifles, two .22 revolvers and one .22 semi-auto pistol.
Just open the box and dump it on the counter, separate them out!

Godfather
May 10, 2005, 08:25 PM
This is rather idiotic though, as the "youth handgun safety control act of 1968" states that "Ammunition suitable only for use in a handgun may not be transfered to minors"

shermacman
May 10, 2005, 08:49 PM
Yeah, but what ammo is "suitable only for a hand gun"?
.22 .32 .357 .38 .40 .44 and .45 with 9mm are all rifle and hand gun ammo.
That leaves weird stuff like .25 10mm .357SIG and .45GAP
I don't know if carbines or rifles are made in those calibers...

Thrash1982
May 10, 2005, 08:51 PM
Several months ago a friend was buying a shotgun from walmart so another friend drove and I tagged along. After filling out the required paperwork and waiting for the NICS check a manager carried the shotgun out to the car for us (how nice of her! :rolleyes: ). Now here's where it gets funny. The car we came in was a hatchback so she wanted to put the shells he bought in the glove box so that they would be in a "separate compartment" from the shotgun. Well there was no way they were going to fit in the glove box so we told her we'd hold them up front. So she lays the boxed shotgun on top of a blanket in the back and walks back to the store, after which we promptly start busting a gut laughing. Little did she know that under that blanket were at least a half dozen guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. :D

MoeMentum
May 10, 2005, 10:38 PM
I wish they would ask if I was 21. Now I really feel like an old fart.

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