"what's your personal homeland security level" ???


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David
March 16, 2003, 03:12 PM
Based on today's news reports, it looks like war may start in a few days, and some "TV terrorist experts" have said that if that indeed occurs, the risk for terrorism in the USA will be greatly increased (and that the USA is likely to increase the national threat level back to Orange - High Alert).

If a war does start, what will be your personal homeland security level -- i.e. for you and your family?

For me, it will increase a bit.

For example, we will, if possible, attempt to avoid crowded public places -- do our shopping at "off" times.

I will upgrade my daily carry gun from a ".32 pocket pistol" to my full-size 9mm (based on my required mode of daily dress, this will be hard to do, but I will do my best).

:what: :what: :what:

Will you do anything different in reference to your personal and family security if a war breaks out over the next few days?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

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faustulus
March 16, 2003, 03:19 PM
I may be in the minority but I am not really worried about terrorist attacks. Statisticlly I have a greater chance of dying in my car. I won't let it bother me. Terrorism is based on fear, without it they do not have a weapon.

Baba Louie
March 16, 2003, 04:56 PM
faust,
OK and good for ya. Call it crime then, not terrorism.

Here in Las Vegas, like other cities, I'm sure that the Hotel Casino (Business) owners are worried because War will lower the "drop" for a spell at the outset, then rebound, unless some actual hard-core bad guy action takes place within the boundaries of the US.

Its not really the threat of terrorist activity that bothers me per se. It would be the aftermath of one or two more WTC/Pentagon scenarios and all of the unprepared and stampeding sheep on the loose while the wolves and sneaky vermin are apt to take the confusion and chaos into their hands at opportune moments.

Probably the worst case scenario would be martial law with all of its implications should something unfortunate occur. Here's hoping no one gets to play those games, just business as usual.

But be prepared for any and everything.

Adios

oldfella
March 16, 2003, 05:04 PM
I remember my squad leader saying (somewhere in the many So. Pacific Islands back then) - "If you're not afraid, you're a fool; fear will keep alive"!

MitchSchaft
March 16, 2003, 05:06 PM
I'm with faustulus on this. Even though Memphis is supposedly #25 on a list of possible targets.

PlayTheAces
March 16, 2003, 05:12 PM
No real change for me. Will continue to go to work and come home. We have no trips planned in the near future, and I'm not fond of crowds to begin with. Heck, if Vegas comes up with some offers too good to pass up, may even take a weekend drive!

And of course, I have my emergency reserve of beer jacked up to two cases now..........

faustulus
March 16, 2003, 05:36 PM
"If you're not afraid, you're a fool; fear will keep alive"!
But at what price?
"Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once"

oldfella
March 16, 2003, 06:06 PM
I can see why one would easily confuse fear with cowardice, especially if one does not take the time or effort to distinguish or separate the two. Fear: Emotion caused by exposure to danger - fear sharpens awareness. Cowardice: When one is easily intimidated by danger or pain - cowardice dull your senses.

BigJake_old
March 16, 2003, 06:43 PM
Not all that woried, biggest thing around here is pry my silo, and i doubt they would waste any effort on that. Other than that, for like riots and marshal law, we have like 3 full time officers around here, and they aint trouble. If the SHTF for realy, i got about a 500 yd field of fire on all points of the compass around the house that i'll cover with my rifle against the raiding hordes.

The Mayor
March 16, 2003, 06:57 PM
I drive through the city with the highest Arab / Arab-American population in the country then into the city with the highest crime rate in the state.

Beretta 96 Brigadier on the front seat.

S&W 340PD in coat pocket.

After work I drive home to an Island with the lowest crime rate in the state.

The threat of war or terrorism has not changed my level of alertness at all.

ruger357
March 16, 2003, 07:25 PM
I do not think that I will be doing any shoping at the mall.

DeltaElite
March 16, 2003, 07:33 PM
Level 10mm here. :D
Truly I am not worried about terrorism, I am more worried about the day to day criminals in this country.

David
March 16, 2003, 08:06 PM
In my opinion there is a BIG difference between being "alert" and being a "coward".

:neener: :neener: :neener:

cheygriz
March 16, 2003, 08:10 PM
I'll probably put my Sig P239 9MM in the safe, and carry my Glock 17 for a while. Otherwise, no changes in daily routine. Might put the AR-15 in the closet instead of the safe.

oldfella
March 16, 2003, 08:15 PM
No matter the color of the "alert", my trusty S&W 640 never leaves my side.... well, some times I take my G-26.

P.S.... and my mossy 590A1 is loaded and ready in my bedroom.

SquirrelNuts
March 16, 2003, 08:28 PM
Mitch,

Where is this list of cities ranked at?

-SquirrelNuts

Dogsoldier
March 16, 2003, 10:04 PM
I drive through the city with the highest Arab / Arab-American population in the country then into the city with the highest crime rate in the state.

Mayor, when the balloon goes up, your drive will probably be the safest part of your city. I think that the Arab-Americans and immigrant Arabs will go to ground. Although the American Arab community is not stepping up to the plate like many of us would like to see, I'm willing to bet they are scared sh*tless right now.

Abe
March 16, 2003, 10:32 PM
We're at LEVEL BLACK (as in The Black Rifle\AR-15.) :D

I'm not concerned about direct terrorist action in my general area as we live reasonably far enough away from the cities on the list referred to elsewhere on the forum (http://www.offnews.info/inteligencia_seguridad/120cities.htm).

I am concerned about vermin though. What happens in\around a major city if the power goes out or a terrorist event occurs? Take a look at what happened in NY when the power went out in '65 and again in '77 (http://blackout.gmu.edu/archive/a_1977.html - read "The Night of Terror" article). Look at the behaviour we've seen in recent years when a major league sports team wins a championship. If a major terrorist event occurs you can bet there are going to be plenty of vermin that will come out of the woodwork to take advantage of the situation.

- Abe

GAMALOT
March 16, 2003, 10:39 PM
Mine is the same as it always was, terrorism asside, there are those among us who maintain readiness as a matter of course.
Many can be found right here in the HR.
No bunkers here and no MREs but, forget the dog!
Smith and Wesson are just a couple of the friends I keep close, add to them the Winchesters, Colts, Remingtons, Rugers, Barettas, Taurus's, Glocks, Sigs and Wildey's and be assured it would not be nice to be an UN welcomed guest. Fortunately, my neighbors have many of the same friends and feelings and we basically have these hills covered. Sadly, the great fear here is BAD KIDS, and that is yet another thread!

Bruce H
March 16, 2003, 11:22 PM
Laid back and lazy. I live right in the middle of a very large hog farm.:D

denfoote
March 17, 2003, 12:22 AM
When we were at "orange" I carried either a Walther P99 with 43 rounds of ammo or a Ruger P95 with 61 rounds. Now that we have dropped to "yellow", I have lightened up the load a bit. It's a Taurus M85UL with 5 speed strips of Federal 110gr Hydro Shok!!!!!! :D

labgrade
March 17, 2003, 12:35 AM
If you consider yourself at risk after the "balloon goes up," you were at risk before it did.

Some just more'n others .....

Ala Dan
March 17, 2003, 12:45 AM
Greeting's Folk's-

With war imminent, I've stepped my threat level up just
a bit; and now live in the "Orange Alert" status. Aware
of my surrounding's, I won't be visting anywhere there
are large crowds gathered. However, I haven't changed
my personal weapon of choice; as it still is the .45 caliber
SIG-Sauer P220A. Our home defense rest in the tube of
a 12 gague Remington 870 Marine Magnum.

WARNING: Don't show up on my door step's unexpected;
please give me a courtesy call before arriving. I don't like
surprises!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

TexasVet
March 17, 2003, 12:49 AM
On a scale of 1 to 10? In rural Texas, terrorism would be a -1, crime a +1. :D However that does not lower the level of alertness that has become normal.

sm
March 17, 2003, 01:05 AM
"Orange" here also.
I also have mom to take care of across town. Took her to do some errands and out to eat Sat. She picked up real quick we avoided crowds and certain areas.

I have classes to attend and will carry on with heightened awareness.

Azrael256
March 17, 2003, 02:24 AM
My level has gone up to two cases of ramen noodles (I had an extra $2 when I went to wal-mart), and as much extra beer as I could afford. I have to have extra food handy in case the war starts. I don't want to have to go to the store to get more snacks and beer while I'm watching the Iraqi army being bombed out of existence. I suppose I could make a beer run during a commercial, but I could also flip channels and not miss any of the action.

SquirrelNuts
March 17, 2003, 02:31 AM
I still carry the same 79 rounds that I always have.

45 in the Glock 17
27 in the Springfield 1911A1 Mil-Spec 9mm
7 in the Raven

-SquirrelNuts

seeker_two
March 17, 2003, 05:27 AM
Considering where I live (very rural Texas), if the terrorists strike here, then they were really lost...:scrutiny:

I'm not taking any more precautions than I do for my daily life already. At least one gun nearby & one knife (now a CRKT Crawford/Kaspar folder) on my person.

Condition Yellow always...:cool:

TonyB
March 17, 2003, 06:58 AM
Just got my CCW,I'll be carrying when not at work.(i work in a state building and cannot carry there,although if things get really bad I may anyway.)
Also keeping my family close and accounted for,and maybe a little ammo stock piling......:cool:

faustulus
March 17, 2003, 08:53 AM
oldfella
I never said the two were the same, but in some fear leads to cowardice, after all without fear no one is a coward and if you don't see a connection between fear and cowardice, nothing I will say is going to change your mind. We'll just have to disagree.

Let's face facts, there is very little any of us can do in the face of terrorist attacks -- unless they just hop into a McDonalds with an AK. Not something to worry about. I am sure most of us are reasonably skilled at taking care of ourselves and our loved ones, from criminals, no matter what their religious slant.
My "security level" -- which has always sounded kinda silly to me-- has always been dependant on the immediate enviroment, I don't suspect that to change no matter what color CNN/MSNBC/FOX/et al. scroll across the bottom the the screen.
So what is today's forcast? 40 percent chance of nuclear attack possibly turning to biological by evening? :)

riverdog
March 17, 2003, 11:01 AM
after all without fear no one is a coward Without fear, Cowards have no need to demonstrate their cowardice. They're still cowards, they're just waiting for a fight to run from.

Fear is a good thing, part of your natural survival skills. Whether you control/contain that fear and let it work for you, or you allow the fear to take control and misguide your actions, determines whether you are a coward or not. It is a character trait/flaw that is with you regardless of how safe you are at the moment.

Skunkabilly
March 17, 2003, 11:20 AM
Condition Yellow Pants = Soiled my pants :o
Condition Brown Pants = Oopsie :o
Condition Red Shirt = so my teammates don't know I'm bleeding! Yeah! Molon Labe!!! :D

Poodleshooter
March 17, 2003, 01:50 PM
Condition green. I carry my Glock, practice often with rifle,shotgun and pistols, wash my hands thoroughly, try not to sniff weird chemical smells, stay in shape, eat healthy, and never,ever run with scissors.
I live in a small town with absolutely no strategic or even shock value as a target. If I lived in the middle of the largest concentration of Jewish people in the world, in DC, or near famous monuments that represent America, then I might worry about being a target.

Kinsman
March 17, 2003, 02:10 PM
Well, I for one won't be going near any big cities.....'cuz there are none around here. I am with Azrael; I don't wanna miss one exciting moment.

Think I'll do a couple racks o'ribs, make a batch of Beer and call it B-1 Fun or something, keep on shooting at targets lots, and dream of that huge bull elk that is out there.....somewhere.....

Dogsoldier
March 17, 2003, 02:11 PM
Okay,

Good thing I was home today, wouldn;t want to have missed all the action at the UN this morning. Besides, they were having a sale at Big 5 Sporting Goods...luve them Mil-surp rifles! :D

Now that the show is going to drop, the local LEO have been put on increased alert, DM AFB is getting ready to go black, it seems like a good time for us to go CONDITION PURPLE!

Condition Purple is me straining bringing in the extra cases of beer, chips and other munchies into the house. God forbid, a crazed terrorist may shoe-bomb the part of the garage we keep that stuff in. Hey, better safe than sorry.

And, I will be carrying my 1911 and the Mrs. will carry here Commander when we leave the house. Oh, wait a minute, we do that already. Hum...everything normal here. :p

Smoke
March 17, 2003, 02:17 PM
Hasn't changed one bit.

Being alert is fine. Paranoia is another thing.

Don't care to live that way.

TonyB
March 17, 2003, 03:47 PM
Just because I'm paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't after me..:uhoh:

longeyes
March 17, 2003, 03:55 PM
And I live in the middle of Animal Farm. Some people call it L.A.

I promoted the Mini-14 from outer Slobovia to active duty topside.

Carlos Cabeza
March 17, 2003, 04:01 PM
[quote]Fear: Emotion caused by exposure to danger - fear sharpens awareness. Cowardice: When one is easily intimidated by danger or pain - cowardice dulls your senses.[\quote]
Good point Old Fella.
I live in condition yellow all the time. It's called situational awareness, and it can save your life.

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