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telewinz
March 16, 2003, 07:19 PM
Decided last night to make one more attempt to non-violently remove the stock from my SAR-1. Tried before using my hand (pain) and then a rubber mallet as suggested by other posts. Zero results, that stock had not moved a millimeter!:cuss: It was down to the wire, I either wanted the Dragunov type stock on($10 value, needed for scope) or throw it away. I bent two screw drivers trying to pry the stock out, NO GOOD,"Their must be another screw somewhere" but alas there was none:banghead: The moment of truth was at hand:uhoh: Out came the rusty saw and off came the stock down to the tang:what: I STILL couldn't remove/pry the wood out of the receiver! Next came the electric drill:uhoh: I drilled 4 holes, still no movement! Then I got mad! I drilled anywhere in that remaining piece of wood that could be drilled and it STILL would not come out! Thats it, I took a hammer and a screw driver (#3) and just cracked and beat the left-over wood and finally I was able to pry out the left over pieces. My thumbhole stock slid in just fine, all it needed was a little wack with the mallet. Took my Sar-1 to the range today, put on the 4X russian scope (side bracket mount) and I now have polio of the neck. The thumbhole stock isn't that much better for using a scope than the original stock was. I need one more inch of height and 1-2 inches of stock length. Maybe I'll get one of those plastic injected molding stocks now that I know how to remove the buttstock. I still have all my tools.:D

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jsalcedo
March 16, 2003, 07:29 PM
Well I guess I'm not changing the stock on my SAR1.

When I first dissasembled it It looked like the wood was fused
to the receiver somehow (epoxy)?

The stock is way to short for me but I can get used to it.
I can still get 3 inch 100 yard groups without trying

I was also able to hit 3 liter bottles at 300 yards with regularity

Does the scope make a big difference or does it just it add to
the looks of the gun?

telewinz
March 16, 2003, 07:43 PM
So far it does four things; 1) it looks real neat, like a mini-sniper rifle. 2) I paid $10 for the stock so by god I am going to use it. 3) the 4X scope easily shows me my 4-5 inch groups. 4) it inflicks polio on the shooter.

jsalcedo
March 16, 2003, 08:27 PM
Well I can't argue with that! :D

AR-10
March 16, 2003, 10:17 PM
Perhaps you could produce a "how-to" installation video and market it.

I'm pretty sure you'de sell quite a few. I'd buy a copy, and I don't even own an AK.;)

You could do a whole series. A good title for the second one might be "The Dremel, Your Friend". "Get your set of the complete "Violent Gunsmithing" educational videos today!!

Gewehr98
March 16, 2003, 10:40 PM
http://www.k-varcorp.com

:D

telewinz
March 17, 2003, 08:09 AM
From my experience I highly suspect that SAR's have the stock inserted after the receiver is stamped but BEFORE the rivets are installed. There were no signs of any glue or epoxy having been applied and no signs of wood shaving which would have been caused by FORCING the stock into the receiver. It has to be a press fit, the tang screws are just for looks.

illuminatus99
March 17, 2003, 08:24 AM
hmm, mine just came out with a good tug when I removed it.

Kahr carrier
March 17, 2003, 08:35 AM
Wow that stock replacement sounds intense .How long did it take??

telewinz
March 17, 2003, 05:55 PM
Even with the violent method, it took ever bit of 20 minutes. In my 50 years I've never run into something like this.:uhoh:

Destructo6
March 17, 2003, 06:54 PM
Even with the violent method, it took ever bit of 20 minutes. In my 50 years I've never run into something like this.
I have, but with a thumbhole stock WUM-1. I had two at the time, one's buttstock came out with a little tug, the other took 40 minutes of wiggling and tugging.

I hate thumbhole stocks.

Steve Smith
March 17, 2003, 11:48 PM
To bad you didn't try burning it off. I'd pay to watch that!

telewinz
March 18, 2003, 07:50 AM
Burning it off was a consideration, my only concern was losing the temper of the steel.

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