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whm1974
May 18, 2005, 05:28 AM
I got into an argument with the guy that sold me the XD-9. He said that autos are so much better then revolvers, that I will sell my model 10 after I've been shooting the XD-9 after a while.
He claims that most of the people he knows that had revolvers gave them up after shooting autos. I have to disagree with on this, due to most I know that have handguns have both kinds even if they perfer one or the other.
The guy is younger then me and didn't grow up with guns. In fact he has gotten his parents into guns.
We have agru about this before. My view is that each has it's place. I perfer revolvers when I was younger doe to most wondernines not fitting my hands and the fact I had a hard time racking the slide.
-Bill
Boss Spearman
May 18, 2005, 05:35 AM
I actually now like both. At home I still feel the most comfortable with my 6 inch .357 S&W Model 19.
For ccw, my Browning Pro 9 or Para LTC Commander best fit the bill.
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 05:58 AM
If we had CCW in this state then yes I would perfer an auto. But I do keep my nubnose loaded when I'm home.
-Bill
Cosmoline
May 18, 2005, 06:19 AM
I've owned and shot many revolvers and semis. While there are a handful of pistols I admire, for the most part I find them inferior in quality and workmanship to revolvers. The trigger pulls tend to be horrible, the actions clunky and the accuracy unimpressive. I also find that they are priced way too high. I have found superlative pinned S&W's for under $250 with butter smooth actions. I've found tough, reliable Ruger Security Sixes for similar prices. But to get a quality used pistol such as a Sig P225 or nice 1911 I'd have to pay far more.
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 06:38 AM
My friend here claims that he can shoot a auto more accuracly then a revolver. Of course his favorite gun is a Para Ordidince LDA .45. I'm wondering if he is comparing apples to organges here. A $800+ gun in comparsion to a used $300(or less) revolver?
I keep asking him would he recemend an auto for proctection to person who has never or rarly has handled a gun before. Myself, most people I wouldn't.
-Bill
AechKay
May 18, 2005, 06:59 AM
I would think in the field, one would want something that they could reload rather quickly. What type if field you ask? It doesn't matter, your being shot at by people... I guess this is just coming from someone that might possibly be in a hard situation. For the average person, I really have no idea if its better or not. Guess it depends on what you shoot well.
bow4828
May 18, 2005, 08:12 AM
You're friend doesn't work at Cabelas does He? :eek:
Sounds like one of the guys behind the gun-counter.
OOPS!!! Did I type that out loud!?
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 08:17 AM
Well a revolver can ketp loaded and is much harder for a newbie to have an AD then an auto. I'm talking home defence here.
Personally I din't think one is better then the other. But one or the other may be more suitable for some people.
-Bill
bow4828
May 18, 2005, 08:38 AM
I generally agree;I usually recommend a relover to a novice shooter.Simple operation and lets face it more reliable(less that can go wrong)
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 08:45 AM
You're friend doesn't work at Cabelas does He?
Sounds like one of the guys behind the gun-counter.
He works at the same place as I do. But he works for the company while I work for the cleaning service. Needless to say he does make quite a bit more money then I do.
He has an $2000 AR-15 w/ doodads and adds. He claimed that AKs other Krebs are all juck and don't last long after I mention I wanted one. This should tell you how much money he has. By the way he still lives with his parents.
-Bill
eagle45
May 18, 2005, 08:53 AM
For a newbie, if I had to recommed only one type of weapon, I would probably recommend a revolver also, while still recommending they shoot several types and choose what works best for them.
This is an arguement that just won't go away though, and honestly it is not worth arguing about in the first place (like the "is this manufacturer reliable" threads). Buy and use what you prefer and don't worry about the preference of someone else. If you ever have to draw a weapon in a SD situation, you won't be thinking of someone else's arguement or preference or whether or not they think you made a wise choice. Hopefully you will be drawing a weapon that you like, that you have practiced with enough to be confident in the weapon's reliablilty and your own skill with it. If you don't have that level of confidence in the weapon and your own skill then it really does not matter what weapon you have.
I personally like both and carry both depending on the situation. It might be an XD 40 subcompact or a 38 snubbie. There are situations that each is the weapon of choice.
hightech
May 18, 2005, 09:22 AM
I would say that your friend does not know how to shoot a revolver. :confused: He should take a basic class and learn the advantages and disadvantages of both a revolver and semi-automatic. ;)
DragonFire
May 18, 2005, 09:27 AM
I would think in the field, one would want something that they could reload rather quickly
Actually, for incidences for many if not most non-LEO people, a reload won't come into play. And if a reload is necessary, I believe its been shown that an extra second or two for a reload hasn't been a major factor.
And with practice, you can reload a revolver rather quickly.
Z_Infidel
May 18, 2005, 12:12 PM
I enjoy shooting both revolvers and semi-autos. I generally shoot a little more accurately with revolvers, but feel I can perform faster follow-up shots with a semi-auto. For looks, I prefer classic revolvers hands down.
I also sold my AR-15, which was a perfectly good rifle, and bought a couple lever guns if that tells you anything.
Elmer
May 18, 2005, 12:38 PM
If I was back in a patrol car, or if I was in the military, I'd carry an auto, but in my house, or walking the woods, or in the desert, I prefer my revolvers. But it's what I carried when they gave me all I could shoot, so it makes sense for me. I can pretty much shoot ten rings with my eyes closed.
One of the things I like about this board, is all the folks who realize a revolver can still do the job, especially the younger folks. Course what I don't like is what it's done to the prices of all those old wheelguns! :rolleyes:
yorec
May 18, 2005, 01:44 PM
...that I will sell my model 10 after I've been shooting the XD-9 after a while.Why? Doesn't sound based in reality to me. My friend here claims that he can shoot a auto more accuracly then a revolver. Maybe he needs to learn to shoot, marksmanship is basically the same for both and manipulation comes with practice.He has an $2000 AR-15 w/ doodads and adds. He claimed that AKs other Krebs are all juck and don't last longHas he worn many out? ...he still lives with his parents. I thinkI see a pattern developing here. Enjoy your friends company and shoot his expensive toys with him. :D You can teach him a lot by example, but ya can't teach some kids by just telling them facts... Ya gotta show 'em. (This guy sounds like a spoiled rich kid who has entered the adult world, but still has some growing to do, at least in the field of firearm knowledge. Wish I could buy the same priced toys he can, then I'd show him how to shoot a $800 revolver!)
bakert
May 18, 2005, 03:15 PM
Agree with yorec. It really irks me for someone to tell me the "old" gun I'm using or carrying is not as good or costly as theirs. See it more with new or young shooters but not always. Some of the old guys real "experts" and gun bashers(your gun) too. I've been told some strange things by gun shop workers and oddly to me, range workers and instructors who should know better. Like the one poster, I shoot a revolver just a better than an auto but I carry both concealed. Actually carry the auto mostly but think it's easier and safer for a new or occasional shooter to use a revolver. Think a shooter needs more training with an auto but that just my opinion. In any case safety the most important thing to consider with either and then lots of practice!
Baker
boldkharma
May 18, 2005, 04:52 PM
I will admit I prefer autos. Don't know if its the way they shoot, the capacity or what. I own three revolvers and will always have them around. I have had only one failure with a revolver and it was an old llama .357 I bought for next to nothing.. I have had many failures with various autos. For the most part, revolvers are robust and reliable and in my opinion, no auto will ever be as reliable. Thats why I gave my wife a sw airweight 38. I believe that autos tend to require more training to feel comfortable with. I absoultely trust and depend on my autos, but they took more time and effort to master.
Brian Williams
May 18, 2005, 05:10 PM
Revo for Defence
Auto for Offence
quoted from C.R. Sam, Great grandpappy of TFL and THR
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 05:37 PM
After I mention some bad online reviews of the S&W 22A(I own one), to him, he then said it's junk because it has an aluminium frame. Yet there other pistols he has raved about that also have aluminium frames. I do perfer steel myself but...
-Bill
Ala Dan
May 18, 2005, 05:37 PM
Both weapons have positive and negative point's about them. For example,
revolvers are slow to reload with the number of rounds ranging from five
to eight (centerfire calibers); but are totally reliable. Heck, if it doesn't
fire, keeping pulling the trigger on DA revolver's until a chambered round
goes go BOOM! :)
OTOH, most semi-auto's are finicky 'bout keep'in 'em clean, ammo,
magazines, etc. And some are just not reliable enough to use as a CCW;
but they do offer more firepower generally speaking, and are quick to
reload. But, have a JAM and unless one practices clearing malfunctions
you could find yourself on the wrong end of a fire fight. :uhoh: :(
BTW, I have both revolver's and semi-auto's; and I train with both! :D
Malamute
May 18, 2005, 05:44 PM
I agree with most of what Cosmoline said.
"My friend here claims that he can shoot a auto more accuracly then a revolver. Of course his favorite gun is a Para Ordidince LDA .45. I'm wondering if he is comparing apples to organges here. A $800+ gun in comparsion to a used $300(or less) revolver?"
I've had, and shot, some expensive autos, I just never owned or shot an auto that I could consistantly shoot as well as a revolver. I tried real hard for several years, it just wasn't happening. Most of my carry and use is in the hills. The revolver is much more powerful and flexible that use, not to mention more reliable when not cleaned or maintained for months (or longer) in a dusty environment. I LIKE auto's, but they are more of a novelty that a serious gun to me. At this point I only own one auto, a 1911, and I can't say I'd miss it if it was gone. One of my criteria for how much I like a gun is if I would replace it if it was lost/burned up in a fire/stolen etc. The auto doesn't make the grade.
If I was stuck in the front of the battelfield with the Canadians invading, I MAY feel differnt, but I'm not sure. That power of even medium 44 loads just gives me warm fuzzy feeling compared to my results shooting game with a 45 auto..
L-Frame
May 18, 2005, 05:49 PM
I prefer revolvers, and I've owned and shot all kinds of both. I carry revolvers. I've taken so many classes and seen so many semi-auto's malfunction(from Makarovs to Les Baer 1911's), I just prefer the total reliability of the revolver.
In some cases it was the gun, in some cases it was the shooter, but either way, it happened. Yeah, I know, many reply that they have never had their glock malfunction, or their buddy's revolver wouldn't fire. All true, but that hasn't been my experience. Hence, my choice of a revolver. Plus I just like shooting them more. For those who like semi's more, God Bless and go to shootin'.
And, with practice, revolvers are definitely not slow to reload, just a little slower than a semi-auto.
middy
May 18, 2005, 06:01 PM
Will a revolver really still work when filled with sand or mud like most 1911s/Glocks will?
Just asking. It seems to me that it would lock up pretty quick, but I don't know.
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 06:02 PM
Well my friend here may be right about one thing. I'm starting to like the XD enough that I might quit shooting my model 10 or don't shoot it very often. Of course the "new gun" factor and that I got 1200 rounds with it may have a lot to do with this as well. I don't have to reload ammo for awhile.
-Bill
lee n. field
May 18, 2005, 06:07 PM
My view is that each has it's place.
This is an old arguement. Ignore his ranting. Keep your Smith.
Malamute
May 18, 2005, 06:28 PM
"Will a revolver really still work when filled with sand or mud like most 1911s/Glocks will?"
I don't know. Tho I've owned and shot several 1911's that occasionally didn't work even when not filled with sand or mud. A single failure in a thousand rounds was more than I cared for, and more than I've experienced in revolvers.
I've been a true gun cleaning sloth on several occaisions, including only "dusting off" the outside of a revolver with my hand every couple of months, no cleaning, shooting off and on, and going a year or more between cleanings. Never had a Smith 29, 19, or Ruger SA fail to function.
The problems I have seen with revolvers is people that never clean under the extractor star, and use very cruddy powder. I've found that if cleaned well under the star, then they will go for very long periods of carry and use without maintainence.
L-Frame
May 18, 2005, 07:49 PM
If I had to bet the farm on which would work better in mud and sand I would take the semi-auto. But, I also believe that the mud/sand scenario is only relevant in a military situation. And yes, there have been situations where civilians and police had guns in the mud and sand, but the incredibly small number of incidents where that might make a difference don't negate the inherent reliability advantage of a revolver, for me,(in my experience.)
dmallind
May 18, 2005, 08:11 PM
Well personally I prefer semiautos, but that doesn't mean I expect everyone else to agree.
When I started handgun shooting, which was quite recently, I asked around and did some research and bought widely respected standard do-it-all versions of both - a SW686 and a Glock 19. I shot both of them for several hundred rounds with various ammo.
Regardless of which is the "better" gun I found myself more comfortable, more accurate and getting more enjoyment from the Glock. So I tried a few more revolvers that friends have, and a few more semiautos too.
I found my initial bias continued. I enjoyed and was better with the semiautos. I still kept the SW for a while to see if I changed opinions. Decided I hadn't and wouldn't so sold it and went exclusively semiauto from that point on. As my sig shows I'm still there and have a variety of them. I wouldn't absolutely rule out buying a wheelgun again but it would have to be one I tried first and thought it gave me something more or better than the pistols do - which I suspect is unlikely.
YMMV of course and de gustibus non disputandum est. Wheel guns are great and all that - not a biased bone in my body against them or those who love 'em dearly - I just swing the other way :D
Mastrogiacomo
May 18, 2005, 08:35 PM
I'm always amazed by the auto vs revolver arguement. My Beretta M is THE gun for me and my Dad (got him into shooting) but because of his arthritis in his hands, the 3" 100 GP is the better for home defense so for him, the better gun depends on how his hands feel at the moment. Different guns for different situations but clearly the bottom line is the better gun is what you use best; I have five Berettas, one Glock 19, and one CX Storm...and my revolver collection I'm sure will soon take over my collection. :)
ducktapehero
May 18, 2005, 08:39 PM
Give me a wheelgun anyday. Even in a combat situation. The Colt and Smith 1917's of WWI and WWII seemed to do all right in the 2 biggest conflicts of all time. If the "reload" time of a wheelgun is too slow for you get something with moon clips. Those are just as fast as a magazine, and a moon clip is usually a lot cheaper than a magazine.
medic_guns
May 18, 2005, 08:50 PM
My .02.........
I like the revolver better. Have had some stovepiped rounds in the glock, have had some jams.............but in the Smith, never had a single problem. Unless I am going into a rough section (which I always avoid), the two revolvers I carry, with a speedloader, will probably be all I will ever need.
But, two weeks ago, the news ran a story about five homeboys that knocked over a huddle house and the awful waffle in little old Snellville, Georgia. This would be a place where I would probably only be carrying one smith and one loader. Since the story broke, I have changed my mode to two j frames minimum with the speedloader and I am going to pick up some speed strips. I also picked up a nice Colt DS II that will ride in an OWB. DS II with a speedloader, a 342 ti with speed strips, a knife, and pepper spray should be adequate, even if multiple attackers hit. Let the bodies hit the floor. Stats show that the average gunfight lasts only seconds, few rounds are fired, and the attack is very close. Revolver can get er done!
whm1974
May 18, 2005, 10:44 PM
Another thing on my friend here is he doen't see any use for .22 handguns(he does have a rifle). Partialey for self defence. He was shocked after I told him that for certain people(.i.e old folks) a .22 revolver would be suitable. Low recoil, cheap ammo, better a hit with a .22 then a miss with .45... It is another thing we have agrue about.
-Bill
kart racer
May 18, 2005, 11:47 PM
A few months ago at the range I was shooting my pistols/revolvers and the only ones that gave problems were my security six and my s/w snubbie.I have shot the security six a few times after that w/out problems but I just don't have 100% belief in it anymore.Strange enough my s/a xd9 and 1911 have been flawless thru several thousand rounds.However I still want another snubbie for cc.
whm1974
May 19, 2005, 12:29 AM
A few months ago at the range I was shooting my pistols/revolvers and the only ones that gave problems were my security six and my s/w snubbie.I have shot the security six a few times after that w/out problems but I just don't have 100% belief in it anymore.Strange enough my s/a xd9 and 1911 have been flawless thru several thousand rounds.However I still want another snubbie for cc.
What problems were you having?
-Bill
boldkharma
May 19, 2005, 02:35 AM
Maybe it shouldn't be auto v.s. revo. Can't we all get along? If I ever go down in a blaze of gunfire( I hope I dont) I will have a 1911 in one hand, and a smith revo in the other..........
dasmi
May 19, 2005, 02:38 AM
I prefer revolvers for sheer reliability, but for some reason, I am more accurate with a Glock 17 than I am with my .357 ruger service six, 4 inch.
boldkharma
May 19, 2005, 02:48 AM
I am the same way dasmi, with me, its an old 1911. I have an old pre-70 that just shoots bulls all day long. It never jams, is always accurate, and is my go to gun. I like revos, but I have never been able to shoot one better than my old colt.
whm1974
May 19, 2005, 02:58 AM
Maybe it shouldn't be auto v.s. revo. Can't we all get along?
I have both. I really don't see one better then the other. Only that companment each other.
-Bill
BilboTN
May 19, 2005, 03:25 AM
I've had both and prefer my revolvers. I may get another auto but only as a plinker.
whm1974
May 19, 2005, 06:43 AM
Since I do have 1200 rounds of 9mm and 9mm is a little cheaper then .38 SPL, I probly shoot my XD-9 more often then my two .38s.
-Bill
charby
May 19, 2005, 11:50 AM
I like revolvers better, just because mine always go boom when I pull the trigger. No stove pipes, fail to feed, etc.
I know that semi's hold more rounds, but if you can't get it done in 5-6 shots you need to practice more.
Charby
whm1974
May 19, 2005, 05:56 PM
I know that semi's hold more rounds, but if you can't get it done in 5-6 shots you need to practice more.
That's what I keep telling my friend. I also try to pound in his head that any equipment is only as good as the person using it.
-Bill
Malamute
May 20, 2005, 12:10 AM
I would have to say that more rounds are not bad by any means, but I just haven't had an auto that I shoot as well as my revolvers. For me, the reliabilty factor is also an issue, one not worth the extra rounds.
I guess to restate the sentiment, I feel more confident of being able to settle the matter in 6 rounds with the revolver because of how I shoot them, tho I do carry spare loads. My guns do double duty also, being carried in the hills far more than in a town or on the road, but I prefer the same guns for both uses. Being able to hit running rabbits or things thrown in the air with the revolver builds confidence. I have never been able to do that with an auto, and feel "handling handicapped" when counting on one for a defense gun.
Shear_stress
May 20, 2005, 12:24 AM
It's pretty telling that, after roughly one hundred years of incremental improvement in semi-auto design and construction, revolvers still hold their own on the sales floor. The market has spoken: each type of handgun has advantages and disadvantages, but none of these are so pronounced so as to make the other type obsolete. Semi-autos and revolvers persist together because each provides the best answer to a somewhat different set of questions.
whm1974
May 20, 2005, 01:19 AM
I agrued with my friend today. Asked him what gun would recamend for someone who wanted something for protection but has never handled a gun before. He said right of the bat a Glock(his first gun).
For someone who is also getting into guns and/or shooting, maybe. For a person who just wants a gun for HD but is not going to shoot it very often, then I think he is better served getting a .38 or .22 revolver.
-Bill
pezo
May 20, 2005, 02:58 AM
I grew up shooting semi auto rifles and pistol's. Now in my adulthood all I own are revolvers
BlackCat
May 20, 2005, 04:06 AM
For someone who is also getting into guns and/or shooting, maybe. For a person who just wants a gun for HD but is not going to shoot it very often, then I think he is better served getting a .38 or .22 revolver.
For someone just getting into guns/shooting I'd say a Glock is an extremely poor choice. Plenty of experienced shooters and "professionals" have had negligent discharges with Glocks, that should say something right there. Keep them away from newbs. This, coming from a Glock fan (me).
A better choice, or IMO, the only sensible choice is a double action revolver. Preferably a .357 magnum, since it has the ability to shoot .38 shells for practice as well as having enough snuff to kill about any 2 or 4 legged animal one would need to kill.
A .22 is not a man-stopper. No. Absolutely not. Especially in a handgun. While I would feel grossly inadequate with my Ruger 10/22 and a loaded 25rd Butler Creek 'nanner clip, I would feel about like urinating in my pants if all I had was a damned .22 pistol with, what, 9 shots, or less in it! A .22LR pistol is certainly better than nothing, but where there are obviously smarter alternatives (like even a weak .25ACP), you'd be a damn fool not to go with them.
whm1974
May 20, 2005, 04:37 AM
A .22 is not a man-stopper. No. Absolutely not. Especially in a handgun. While I would feel grossly inadequate with my Ruger 10/22 and a loaded 25rd Butler Creek 'nanner clip, I would feel about like urinating in my pants if all I had was a damned .22 pistol with, what, 9 shots, or less in it! A .22LR pistol is certainly better than nothing, but where there are obviously smarter alternatives (like even a weak .25ACP), you'd be a damn fool not to go with them.
I wasn't saying that a .22 is a man stopper. However if I was a serial rapist, I would be more afraid of a woman who shoots her .22 handgun all the time then someone with something more powerful but only shot once or twice and put it her desk drawer since then.
.22s are cheap and have almost no recoil. The newbie who only has a gun for proctection and who is NOT a shooter will shoot far more often then with a CF pistol.
He can always buy a powerful gun later on.
A lady at work is thinking about getting proctection agaist her ex-husband. She was looking at a Bersa .380 in one my magazines. She could get the money for the pistol, but she wouldn't be able to shoot it very often.
And a .22 revovler DOES have more power then a .25 auto.
-Bill
Majic
May 20, 2005, 06:55 AM
Another thing on my friend here is he doen't see any use for .22 handguns(he does have a rifle).
As you say your friend is still young and wet behind the ears. He has a lot to learn. For a handgun shooter a .22 is a valuable tool. Not only is it fun and cheap to shoot, it also allows you to correct shooting mistakes when they pop up from time to time.
No need in arguing with your friend. Just point out a fact or two every now and then. In time he may come around. Right now most of his knowledge probably comes from the gun rags.
ojibweindian
May 20, 2005, 10:00 AM
I like them both, and carry both. To be honest, I really don't see any glaring advantages to one platform over the other.
If forced to choose between a revolver and an auto, I'd have to go with the revolver simply because the .357 Magnum is my favorite cartridge.
whm1974
May 21, 2005, 12:31 AM
As you say your friend is still young and wet behind the ears. He has a lot to learn. For a handgun shooter a .22 is a valuable tool. Not only is it fun and cheap to shoot, it also allows you to correct shooting mistakes when they pop up from time to time.
No need in arguing with your friend. Just point out a fact or two every now and then. In time he may come around. Right now most of his knowledge probably comes from the gun rags.
I think his problem is that he has got a high paying job(s) at a young age. Plus his parents make quite a bit of money and he moved back in after his divorce.
He also work a lot more overtime then I do.
As far as guns go, he wants only the best. Myself I'll be happy with the "good enough" that I can afford. To me spending four figures on a firearm is silly.
-Bill
Majic
May 21, 2005, 12:52 AM
He may want only the best, but he sold you a XD and his favorite is a Para. Neither one qualifies as the best in their respective catergory. Good pistols yes, but no where near the best. Of course if he hears this then a whole new argument will probably start.
When your income level gets to the point where you can casually afford the 4 digit price tags then the silliness you see now may evaporate. You carefully choose what you want, bypassing those that don't meet your expectations, and generally hold on to them.
whm1974
May 21, 2005, 01:42 AM
When your income level gets to the point where you can casually afford the 4 digit price tags then the silliness you see now may evaporate. You carefully choose what you want, bypassing those that don't meet your expectations, and generally hold on to them.
I had people tell me that SKSs, Makarovs, AKs, etc are junk and "worthless". Yet they have $1000+ custom 1911s and AR-15s that are very picky about ammo and need to be kept very clean to work. It's funny when firearms that poor people can afford work much better then those that cost almost tens time as much.
-Bill
bjbarron
May 21, 2005, 02:35 AM
I have a half dozen of each type now...some of which I have had for over 40 years. I've bought and sold dozens more.
The right revolver is the best hand weapon in the world for the first six shots...period.
I've got an $800 Kimber that is insanely accurate and beautiful but I would not trust it with my life. I've got a $250 Colt Trooper that shoots like this at 25 yards with a 4" bbl.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bjbarron/blogfiles/trooper_25yd_target2.jpg
I'll take my chances with my first six rounds. My house gun is a .357 wheel gun, my backup is a 12ga pump with 000 buck. My other guns are for the range, the field, or when the SHTF.
whm1974
May 21, 2005, 05:38 AM
I've got an $800 Kimber that is insanely accurate and beautiful but I would not trust it with my life. I've got a $250 Colt Trooper that shoots like this at 25 yards with a 4" bbl.
This why I will never buy a 1911. The many companys that make 1911type guns have turn one of the most relieable designs into rooney guns. Something that is fine for "play" but nothing no sane person will bet his life on. Not to mention they cost way too much.
This is why glocks became so populare. They work out of the box. No sending off to a gunsmith to fix problems a working gun shouldn't have in the first place.
-Bill
gunhog1950
May 21, 2005, 02:57 PM
:confused: "that I will sell my model 10 " I have a model 10 for 30 yrs. I carry ,most of the time my CZ75 PCR other choices for carry are my S&W 4506 or my Sig 226. either way i'm not selling my Model 10 its' always done whats' asked of it and maybe then some. :) It get it's turn also
whm1974
May 21, 2005, 05:28 PM
From what I'm hearing people are buying up used S&W model 10s. And I have never seen a used snubnose for sale in a shop. People must be keeping these things.
-Bill
medic_guns
May 21, 2005, 09:38 PM
Revolver, revolver, revoooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!
woo hoo!
whm1974
May 22, 2005, 03:14 AM
I see I got three pages of posts here. My friend here is the first person I met who is into handguns who didn't own both autos and revolvers. Even people I know that much perfer one over the other owned and shot both.
-Bill
Texshooter
May 22, 2005, 10:15 AM
Well, typically, I will shoot most semis better than wheelies, but I can't carry at work. I, for work, wear slacks and a dress shirt, and when I go out for lunch or dinner more often than not I will put my weapon in my pocket.
Since my 2 favorite semis are XD & glock, there is NO WAY I am putting those in my pocket with a round in the chamber. Therefore, an SP101 just slides in there. Ready to go.
whm1974
May 22, 2005, 03:55 PM
I can't say I blame you. It would be too easy to shoot yourself with a Glock or XD in a pocket.
-Bill
mutt
May 23, 2005, 01:51 AM
I mostly carry an auto,my Wife carries both. A ColtTrooper Mark V .357 sits on the night stand. Both are excellent choices . Its what I feel is best under the heat of the moment,for my own needs. I like the .45 auto.( big chunk of lead) I like the Colt .45 ( another big chunk of lead ) and I like the .357 ( A fast and also mean chunk of lead ). That dog hunts for me...........MUTT
Bandit01
May 24, 2005, 02:04 PM
For me, it's like this. I shoot 10MM; .45 Caliber; .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum. When I'm riding my motorcycle, I usually carry one of my (or 2 if I'm wearing my double holster) semi's. For all other situations, it's one of my sweet .357's (either the S&W 686 or Taurus snubnose). For me, I have a strong long for revolvers. 10MM is my favorite caliber but I'm so accurate with my .357. I'm a reloader, so I usually make some hard hitting rounds for sweet lenny (that's my 686). For me, I'll always go with a revolver. If I'm in a gun battle, I'm confident that I'm not going to need more than the 7 rounds that Lenny can hold. More doesn't always mean better. It doesn't matter that you have more rounds if you can't shoot well.
whm1974
May 27, 2005, 01:45 AM
More doesn't always mean better. It doesn't matter that you have more rounds if you can't shoot well.
I agree.
-Bill
Sport45
May 27, 2005, 10:00 AM
"Will a revolver really still work when filled with sand or mud like most 1911s/Glocks will?"
A revolver won't fire if filled with sand or mud. Of course, neither will a 1911 or a Glock. Any of them can work when they're pretty dirty though.
When I carry, it's a S&W model 36 Chief's Special. 5 rounds of .38 +P LSWCHP and no reloads. That's 5 rounds more than I or anyone I've ever personally known (except LEO) has needed.
I'll qualify that. I know folks that have shot at snakes, dogs, hogs, etc, but I'm not about to say that any of those shots NEEDED to be fired. (Haven't met a snake in the woods yet that I wasn't able to ignore.)
jc2
May 27, 2005, 10:31 PM
I wouldn't count on a Glock working full of sand (particularly if the magazine was full of sand).
klover
May 28, 2005, 01:45 AM
K lover loves K's, J's , N's and X's. Some Makarov and P38 puppy love too ;)
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