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Lobotomy Boy
May 19, 2005, 11:54 PM
Apparently if you oppose the Patriot Act, or if you have been a political activist (you've worked for pro-RKBA legislation), you may be on the FBI's solid-waste list:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0519/dailyUpdate.html?s=rss

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dasmi
May 20, 2005, 12:01 AM
Not surprised. Hey, attention FBI goons that undoubtedly monitor this forum. Bite me.

R.H. Lee
May 20, 2005, 12:04 AM
heh. ANYBODY can keep a list.

PromptCritical
May 20, 2005, 12:08 AM
Hey, attention FBI goons that undoubtedly monitor this forum. Bite me.
FBI Goon (Dr. Evil voice): "Oooh, I'm shaking in my little jack boots!"

:neener:

Taurus 66
May 20, 2005, 12:32 AM
Not surprised. Hey, attention FBI goons that undoubtedly monitor this forum. Bite me.

Do you mean this particular forum "Legal and Political" or the entire site?

They might look at all the forums here. :p

geekWithA.45
May 20, 2005, 12:33 AM
They're mostly PO'd because their buddies the enviroNazis and PETA pals are tops on the list, instead of skinheads, KKK yahoos, and wingnut militias.

RevDisk
May 20, 2005, 12:51 AM
COINTELPRO.

Not exactly anything new.

dustind
May 20, 2005, 02:08 AM
FBI terrorist pamphlet (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=23062)

Alex45ACP
May 20, 2005, 02:24 AM
FBI terrorist pamphlet

Disgusting. :barf:

Sindawe
May 20, 2005, 02:30 AM
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So I say to all you spooks and spies, all you who watch and catalog and make lists. Leave my fellows and I in peace and we shall all enjoy a long life. Do it not, and all your days are numbered. No writ of law, no force of arms, no tyrants boot can forever subjugate a people who's birthright is LIBERTY! We taught this lesson to our supposed betters once more than 200 years ago, and if need be we shall teach it to you again.

RevDisk
May 20, 2005, 03:53 AM
So I say to all you spooks and spies, all you who watch and catalog and make lists. Leave my fellows and I in peace and we shall all enjoy a long life. Do it not, and all your days are numbered. No writ of law, no force of arms, no tyrants boot can forever subjugate a people who's birthright is LIBERTY! We taught this lesson to our supposed betters once more than 200 years ago, and if need be we shall teach it to you again.

Comrade, you are in need of re-education. Come with us... :neener:


"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence."
- Charles A. Beard

BlackCat
May 20, 2005, 04:13 AM
:scrutiny:

Defenders of US Constitution against the federal government and UN

Groups of individuals engaged in para-military training

My my, lots of so-called terrorists on this website now aren't they. Screw uncle sam's new agenda.

Mongo the Mutterer
May 20, 2005, 07:04 AM
My Gawd. I'm very concerned. WHO is reporting this.... Lemmesee.

THE ALL COMMUNIST LAWYERS UNION

THE COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK

AND..

BRITISH BABBLING COMMIES.

Oh, btw, doesn't the ACLU SUE PEOPLE? Why are they simply spreading rumors? There isn't proof...

BryanP
May 20, 2005, 08:17 AM
My Gawd. I'm very concerned. WHO is reporting this.... Lemmesee.

Yes, and that bastion of leftist thought, the Christian Science Monitor. :rolleyes:

Mongo the Mutterer
May 20, 2005, 08:24 AM
Touche. I see the initials ACLU and I get all :cuss: inside.

dpesec
May 20, 2005, 09:04 AM
monitor this place, I'm sure some of the US allies do. Remember, there's nothing that prevents these countries from sharing "dangerous" information with the US. Actually, the US wants it.
Scary isn't it?

Lobotomy Boy
May 20, 2005, 09:31 AM
I see the initials ACLU and I get all inside.


Mongo, if the federal government takes its destruction of our constitutional rights two or three steps further than it already has, you might find the ACLU is the best friend you've ever had.

Given the ACLU's work to help preserve what's left of our Second Amendment rights, I'm always shocked to see gun owners who buy into anti-ACLU propoganda.

As for the feds monitoring me, they must be some awfully bored agents. About the most exciting thing I do these days is pluck dandilions from my yard with my Weed Hound. Then again, my wife is pretty hot, so if they're preverts they probably get an eye full.

Mongo the Mutterer
May 20, 2005, 09:57 AM
Yeah Lobotomy Boy, same deal if they are monitoring me. They will be snoozing.

I semi agree with your statement about ACLU. The problem I have is with "activist" lawyers, like Lynne Stewart. I also have a real problem with the Lawyers Guild, and their Communist influences. I know, two separate organizations... I don't see much diffence in their stances.

BTW, I'll let and help the NRA (cough) defend my rights, before I would even attempt to have the ACLU. I don't trust lawyers of any stripe (including my own). Been worked over by the Family courts enough to know better.

I won't hold my breath for the ACLU to help 2A gun issues, either.

Leatherneck
May 20, 2005, 10:16 AM
Given the ACLU's work to help preserve what's left of our Second Amendment rights :rolleyes: Such as...?

The ACLU loves all nine of the first ten amendments.

TC

dolanp
May 20, 2005, 10:30 AM
You can read (http://www.aclu.org/PolicePractices/PolicePractices.cfm?ID=9621&c=25) for yourself how the ACLU feels about that pesky militia amendment.

sarhog
May 20, 2005, 10:50 AM
Lobotomy said:
Given the ACLU's work to help preserve what's left of our Second Amendment rights

:eek:

Let me guess... that's sarcasm, right?? :scrutiny:

VARifleman
May 20, 2005, 09:58 PM
We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one, intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government. In today's world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles. The ACLU therefore believes that the Second Amendment does not confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons nor does it prohibit reasonable regulation of gun ownership, such as licensing and registration.
So how do they help my second amendment rights?

Hawkmoon
May 21, 2005, 12:13 AM
Has anyone asked them how they justify that position after the AG's meticulously researched report that concluded definitively that the RKBA is indeed an individual right? I'd be interested in their reponse.

R.H. Lee
May 21, 2005, 12:46 AM
In today's world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles Because of the infringements already imposed, the constitutional right to keep and bear arms has become so weakened as to be ineffective. Therefore it is null and void.

This is legal logic?

sm
May 21, 2005, 12:58 AM
Sorry I'm late folks.

Being a single guy, I was looking up some Constitutional information obtained thru the Library of a RKBA , Pro-Gun Website , in regard to right to privacy, and what to do in the event I am stopped and asked for ID .

Against all Enemies, Foreign and Domestic....

Crosshair
May 21, 2005, 02:52 AM
Well, I'm screwed. I called my represenatives office awhile ago to complain about that (As well as a lot of other stuff). :( I wonder if you get extended cable in prison

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