[Blackhawk]

From an email this morning:Pepsi has a new patriotic can coming out with pictures of the Empire State
Bldg. and the Pledge of Allegiance on them. But Pepsi forgot two little
words on the pledge, " Under God." Pepsi said they did not want to offend
anyone. If this is true then we do not want to offend anyone at the Pepsi
corporate office. If we do not buy any Pepsi products then they will not
receive any of our monies. Our money, after all, does have the words "Under
God" on it. If you agree with this policy, please pass this word to everyone
you know. Pepsi doesn't have the right to rewrite the Pledge Of Allegiance!!I can't even remember when the last time I offended Pepsi was....

Edited to add:

Pepsi says it's a false rumor at http://www.pepsi.com/current/alert.html

My bad. Moderator: Please close this thread

[Marko Kloos]

Pepsi doesn't have the right to rewrite the Pledge Of Allegiance!

Actually, regardless of your feelings on the issue, the Pledge of Allegiance was "rewritten" already, by Congress in 1954. It did not contain the words "under God" before then.

[Blackhawk]

I remember.

Congress has that power and a few others besides....

[Leatherneck]

I dunno, Blackhawk; this smells kinda like the feedlot to me. Are you sure Pepsi is voluntarily committing this blunder?

TC
TFL Survivor

[waterdog]

Pepsi is bad for you anyways, I have quit drinking that cr*p.

waterdog

[Ebbtide]

Did'nt we do this one already?

I think we called it Mountain Dew back then.

Same company, same marketing.

I'm going thread hunting to find out, wish me luck ;)

ehenz

[Marko Kloos]

Congress has that power and a few others besides....

According to the First Amendment , Congress has absolutely no business making unilateral faith declarations on behalf of the entire nation, even if the majority believe in a monotheistic religion.

Just because the adherents of the majority religion managed to insert those faith declarations into the PoA and the currency does not make it constitutional.

This whole thing does smell like an Urban Legend, though. I think I've heard it before in connection with some other soft drink. Seems like someone over at Coke is seeding these. :D

[Blackhawk]

Your nose works well, Leatherneck. I just found this at http://www.pepsi.com/current/alert.html : FALSE RUMOR ALERT: PATRIOTIC CANS
We wanted to clarify an erroneous report that has been circulating around cyberspace for the past several months. Pepsi has not created any packaging containing an edited version of America's Pledge of Allegiance. A patriotic package used last year by Dr Pepper was inappropriately linked to this rumor. Dr Pepper's position is very clearly articulated at: http://www.dpsu.com/drpepper_can.html.

[Blackhawk]

According to the First Amendment , Congress has absolutely no business making unilateral faith declarations on behalf of the entire nation, even if the majority believe in a monotheistic religion.Actually, that's not a strictly correct application of the 1A. It prohibits Congress from making any "law respecting an establishment of religion." IMO, there's plenty of wiggle room for either interpretation regarding the PoA on the "under God" wording, however.Seems like someone over at Coke is seeding these. :D :D

[Skunkabilly]

Coke tastes better anyhow.

[Quartus]

YEAH! THIS IS TRUE! AND PROCTOR AND GAMBLE IS RUN BY SATANISTS AND THEY HAVE 666 ON THEIR PRODUCTS!


:rolleyes:


If they really had done this, we should have made them pay dearly just for giving in to the PC crowd. The more companies that cave in, the more power the PCC crowd gains.


And they ain't exactly friends of the 2A.

[cratz2]

I've always though that the brown drinks are bad for you... And the glow-in-the-dark yellow ones too.

Cream soda and Big Red for me. And that orange drink that tastes like a dreamcicle too! :p

[dev_null]

Does the phrase "urban legend" ring a bell? How about "unsubstantiated rumor?"

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[foghornl]

PepsiCo has a longer reach than you think... KFC Taco Bell Pizza Hut Captain D's seafood.

I'm sure there are a lot more of the 'fast food' places they own, too. Take a look at the soft drink "fountain". If it has Pepsi products, it is probably owned/franchised by PepsiCo.

Anyone have an e-mail addy for PepsiCo? ? ? I wouldn't mind blistering their ears a bit about this.

[cheygriz]

Always ask for genuine **COCA COLA***

[Quartus]

yo, foghorn! Read the thread, man. This is NOT TRUE. Pepsi DIDN'T DO IT!


Still bad for you, though. Yeah, the brown ones are worse, generally. Phosphoric acid. Not good.


Make my next one a small.... COKE!

[D.W. Drang]

I keep Snopes on my Links bar now. And whaddaya know, number 6 on the list of "Most accessed" is...
Claim: A new can design for Pepsi includes the text of the Pledge of Allegiance with the words "under God" omitted.
Status: False.

Origins: Although there once was some truth to the item quoted above, the information it contains is long outdated and never had anything to do with Pepsi or Coca-Cola. Neither soda company is producing, or has ever produced, redesigned cans bearing any portion of the Pledge of Allegiance or an image of the Empire State Building. This issue concerns a special patriotic can design produced by Dr Pepper back in November 2001, a can which was marketed for a limited time and has been off of store shelves since February 2002.

The brouhaha began in mid-November 2001, when the Dr Pepper soft drink company, in response to the terrorist attacks on America a few months earlier, introduced a new can design featuring the Statue of Liberty with the words "ONE NATION . . . INDIVISIBLE" from the Pledge of Allegiance displayed above it...

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/drpepper.htm

[foghornl]

OOOOOOPS

My Bad

Not enough coffee this AM before reading THR posts........

I should know by now to finish Second Gallon of Coffee before touching keyboard.......................:o

[Quartus]

:D

[pax]

I wouldn't be boycotting Pepsi even if the whole thing weren't just one more internet rumor. Here's why.

I wavered on this one for awhile, but I finally have to say that I am adamantly opposed to the words "under God" in our pledge of allegiance.

For awhile, I thought it just didn't matter. I thought of it as simply a traditional phrase that doesn't mean squat to most people who mouth the words. Given that people usually mean nothing at all when they say it, what difference could it possibly make to anyone whether they said it or not?

But then I thought a little deeper. "Do to others as you would have them do unto you." I am a Christian, and the Christ I claim to follow said that. What does that mean for me, here and now?

Martyrdom has happened to many Christians through the ages. Often it happened not so much because they proclaimed the name of Jesus Christ, but because they refused to mouth the name of a god in whom they did not believe.

The Christians in Rome, for instance, were thrown to the lions not simply because they worshipped Christ (the Romans worshipped many gods, after all; what was one more?) No, they were thrown to the lions because they refused to proclaim that the emperor was a god. They thus showed themselves to be rebels, anti-patriots, potential threats to the country.

The Christians in Rome refused to say the patriotic words even though most educated Romans regarded the proclamation as a purely symbolic thing, devoid of almost every meaning save that of loyalty to the emperor and patriotism to the country. But the Christians wouldn't do it. They would not mouth the name of a god in whom they did not believe, not even to save their lives.

"Do to others as you would have them do unto you."

If I had to mouth the name of Allah or proclaim that I were an atheist in order to pledge allegiance to the flag of this country that I love -- I wouldn't say the pledge. I couldn't. If I said the pledge, I would be denying the God who died for me, and betraying the truth I believe. And for what? For a god made of stars and stripes? For an altar made of fabric and dye? For a mere symbol? I'd rather die myself.

"Do to others as you would have them do unto you."

I would not want to be placed in the position of denying either the country I love or the truth I believe. Such a thought is monstrous, unbearable.

So how could I do that to another?

pax

He does not believe, that does not live according to his belief. -- Thomas Fuller


Note: my intention isn't to start a religious war here; only to explain why I am opposed to the words "under God" in the pledge.

[Quartus]

Well said, pax, and I agree.


But if it had been true, I would still boycott them for caving in to the PC crowd. If we are going to take it out for principled reasons, fine, let's do it.

But not because the left doesn't like the words.

[BamBam]

Pax,
I like your style.

[Blackhawk]

pax, well said, and I also agree with the point that Quartus made.

"Under God" means different things to different people, and it means absolutely nothing to others.

The "message" was a bit humorous because "In God We Trust" is smack dab on U.S. currency, and it too, is meaningless since we, as a nation, do not trust in God.

[Don Gwinn]

I will not hear another word against The Dew! Apologize!

[Quartus]

Don - :neener:


:D

[Standing Wolf]

Yeah, well, I'm still not buying new Smith & Wessons!

[citizen]

I'm with Wolf!!!!!!!!!:D

[ZekeLuvs1911]

Can someone pls close this thread? :neener: :p

[Mal H]

Yes.