[geekWithA.45]

Chambered carry in an IWB hasn't bothered me in a long time, I ultimately consider butt chunks expendable.

Thunderwear's a different issue. Yes, it's pointed straight downwards, blah blah blah, but 2 words come to mind:

HOT GASSES.

Am I the only one to be intimidated here?

[Blackhawk]

I've got a Thunderwear holster too, but I seldom bother with it. I don't quite understand what it is that's intimidating you about yours. :confused:

[dairycreek]

That makes some difference to me. I carry a Glock 27 IWB at 1:00 o'clock from time to time. Carry it "cocked and locked" as it were. Only carry it in a holster that provides adequate cover for the trigger. I clearly would NOT carry THAT gun in a coat or pants pocket. Would carry my S&W 442 in a pants pocket. So, what gun are you carrying in the Thunderwear? It seems to me that it makes a lot of difference. Good shooting;)

[geekWithA.45]

Sig p245.

In reality, I don't think it's actually all that big a deal, but there's something about the theoretical possibility of rapidly expanding hot gasses in the groin that makes one uncomfortable.

I imagine I'll be over it in a few days.

[Blackhawk]

So you're worried about the hot gasses after an ND where the bullet misses anything vital? That's reasonable.

It's also reasonable that you could have an ND easier with Thunderwear than with a tight trigger fitting holster. You just have to be extra careful about fondling whatever you find in that area.... :D

[Nick96]

Never used Thunder Wear - but it strikes me like you'd have to dress like Mr. Bo Gangles to really get away with it.

If you're old enough, I guess you could get away with wearing it off to the side so it looks like a colostomy bag.

[triggertime]

Be reasonable. Its highly unlikely that a Sig P245 will accidentally discharge if carried in a Thunderwear or Smart Carry holster. The double action trigger pull is around 10 pounds and the hammer isn't going to develop a mind of its own and automatically cock itself.

[V-fib]

FWIW, I use a smartcarry holster for my SP101 3”.357 which is essentially the same as thunderware. These holsters are designed so that you draw the weapon by the grip. There is never at least in my case a chance the gun will discharge when in the holster or drawing the weapon. I like the smartcarry cause I can carry in any situation (even with only my swim suit on) and not be detected. Doesn’t Thunderware have a money back guarantee? I know smartcarry has a 60 day mbg. If your not happy with the holster or worried that your weapon might discharge on you while in the holster send it back and carry some other way. :cool:

[DDGator]

I use a Smartcarry with my Kel-Tec P-40. I dont worry about ADs. In the unlikely event of one, you are unlikely to hit anything (except maye your leg?) and I think the heavy duty denim type holster would help protect your skin from everything else.

And no -- you dont have to dress any different than normal to conceal this rig. I love mine and recommend them highly.

[Preacherman]

Geek, you can experiment... eat lots of beans with chili peppers, and you will soon know what hot gases feel like in that area! :D

[esef]

Expanding hot gases. Hummm, I get that all the time after I eat a few beans. So far no problems with the crotch. :D :D :D

[Redlg155]

I take it that you won't like the Pager Pal either! :D

I used to call mine the "pain pal" prior to donating it to the dog for a chewy toy.

Good Shooting
RED

[DDGator]

Having tried a Pager Pal at the gunshow, I think the difference is that the SmartCarry/Thunderwear is infinitely more adjustable side to side and up and down. Once you find the right place for the Smartcarry, it works great.

[G. Glock]

I've carried Glocks since the 80s, and I carry it chambered IWB. If I stick it in a cargo pocket or jacket pocket, I leave the chamber empty.

As well, if I were to use the Thunderwear/SmartCarry arrangement, you'd never catch me with a round chambered.

This method of deeper carry wouldn't seem to dictate "cocked and locked" anyway. The added time involved in getting to the gun itself would seem to dwarf the split second it takes to chamber a round. Seems sillly to me to think it important to carry with round chambered in a Smart Carry. That be my opinion.

[DDGator]

I wouldn't carry a Glock with one in the pipe in a Smartcarry either -- unless maybe I was using a Saf-T-Block. However, I think its fine with a DAO gun.

Its not just the additional time to chamber a round, there is also the need for two hands, the possibility of a hang-up, the conditioning, etc.

[stevelyn]

Thunderwear isn't for everyday wear. It's for those occassions when you are wearing loose shorts or sweats and unable to use a belt or ankle holster. I carry my .380 Mustang in Condition 2 (hammer down on a loaded chamber) and haven't had any safety concerns. I've done a lot of practice drawing and thumbing the hammer back on the Mustang.

[PCRCCW]

Ill take a snub/Kahr in front pocket carry with good pocket rig that hides the gun and allows quick access to a chambered round.
In the event that I need my gun...I want it fast and ready when presented.
The extra time thats needed to get the gun added when carrying in a "gun jock" and having to chamber a round may just add enough time to get you killed. Especially with the additional attention your gonna get from a potetial BG, while reaching into your pants for your gun....::what: :what:
Flame away....just my opinion. I find new ones everyday...:D
Shoot well

[Bulldozer]

Have used this system and like it except for the slow draw, but it is very useful for those social situations when you absolutely must not let it be known you are carrying concealed. Weapons carried and comfy with include:

Glock 30 with chambered round
Taurus 617CH
Para-Ordnance P-12/45 Ltd (no rd in chamber, need to rack slide)
SW 36/60


I like this system with revolvers for my peace of mind. I really would mind losing that piece, hence the 1911 style carried empty chamber and needed to rack slide. Guess in my mind the Glock long trigger was close enough to a DA revolver to feel at ease.

[Poohgyrr]

LOL,

I've had a friend for maybe twelve years now that is a manly man, former Marine, did not do things in different places around the world during and after Viet Nam, retired active street cop, yada yada yada. Also a great guy. :D

Also been know to carry a 2 1/5" M19 in Thunderwear often. I definitely never ever oogle him, but I've never noticed any unusual bulges or whatnot. The only problem he has are the appreciative looks women give him at times ;). He is happily married and plans to stay that way. Luckily his wife understands, and looks at it as braggin rights ;).....

[Bulldozer]

I'm gonna ask my wife if I can get a 3 inch N-frame for the Thunderwear!!!!!


(covers head in anticipation of beating)

[Country Boy]

When I carry IWB at the 4:30 position, I have no problem carrying condition 1, because my rear end has no convergence of blood vessels if fate led to a discharge of my firearm. I would have to carry condition 3 or get a revolver if I was going to use Thunderwear, not just for the fact that getting shot in my manhood is not a pleasant thought, but there is such a convergence of blood vessels in that area that a rapid amound of blood loss is a distinct possibility.
(It's not easy wording all that for a family website.)

[Alan Smithiee]

if you haven't tried thunderware at about 3:30 or 4:00 give it a try. you might be very suprised at how it fades away from view.

(I get away with a Ruger P95 and thunderware at 3:30 with just a loose t-shirt)