Washington State CHL Fingerprints ?


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USGuns
May 27, 2005, 02:24 PM
Does anyone know what is done with the fingerprints taken when applying for a Concealed Handgun License in Washington State?

Do they just run your prints against a fingerprints database to verify you're not a felon, have any open warrants, etc., then just file them away?
OR
Do they also then ADD your prints to the fingerprints database (as a CHL holder) so your prints now also are part of the database law enforcement searches for matches in crime investigations???

I have absolutely nothing to hide and have a spotless record but always try to stay low on the radar ... I just don't trust large bureaucracies and their "mistakes" or "good intentions"... :scrutiny:

Thanks!

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Bobarino
May 27, 2005, 02:54 PM
no, they don't comapre your prints to any database when you apply, but you are paying the FBI their fee to print you and retain your prints in their database. i don't know if they are retained in state records too, but the main reason for the prints if the FBI database.

Bobby

USGuns
May 27, 2005, 03:26 PM
you are paying the FBI their fee to print you and retain your prints in their database

So just to clarify;
They're retaining the prints in the FBI database so everytime the FBI does a fingerprint search, your prints are included in that search?

Old Dog
May 27, 2005, 05:13 PM
no, they don't comapre your prints to any database when you apply Sorry, but this is incorrect. The fingerprints are used to perform a background check to ensure that you are not a convicted felon or otherwise ineligible to possess a Washington CPL.

One may presume that the prints are retained on file by the license issuing agency. I cannot confirm that the FBI maintains the prints of all those run through its database for routine background checks ...

Bobarino
May 27, 2005, 05:22 PM
hhhmmmm, interesting. i was told specifically at the Pierce County/City bldg when i applied that the prints are not run when one applies but they are kept on file in the FBI's permanent database. when i applied, i filled out the form, turned it in and payed my money. the background check was perfomed and completed before i even went to the fingerprinting room and my permit was ready and waiting for me when i returned to the counter from being printed so i know that my prints were not checked when i got the permit so i'll maintain my previous assertion. maybe you just look more suspicious than me? :p

Bobby

USGuns
May 27, 2005, 06:56 PM
and my permit was ready and waiting for me when i returned to the counter from being printed
Borbarino, are you saying you received your CHL permit the SAME DAY you applied??? :what:
If so, that's FANTASTIC! I wish it worked that way up here in Snohomish county... :rolleyes:

Bobarino
May 27, 2005, 07:59 PM
yup, the whole process took all of 30 minutes. filled out app, turned it in with money, computerized background check, up to the print room, ten minutes there, back down to the counter/cashier and there was my permit. i was pretty amazed too. then i renewed at the Puyallup PD and they took a week and a half to get it mailed back to me. at least they laminated it for me though.

Bobby

Glack
May 28, 2005, 04:20 AM
USGuns Snohomish county is pretty fast. I applied for a nonresident CHL on a Wednesday and it was waiting for me in Oregon on Friday. Pretty fast turnaround.

rwc
May 28, 2005, 10:42 AM
King Cy. Sheriff's office took about a month.

Dean C
May 28, 2005, 11:02 AM
USGuns,
I too live in Snohomish County. Both my son and I applied on a Wed. around noon and the issue time printed on the license was around 4:00 the same day. It did take until Friday for the mail to reach me.
dean

MillCreek
May 28, 2005, 01:20 PM
Another SnoCo resident here, who has to apply at the courthouse at the Sheriff's office, since I live in the unincorporated county. Last time I renewed, I received it in the mail two days after applying. I have to renew next year and hopefully it will be as rapid.

Be aware, however, that the Sheriff's office now only takes applications and issues CPL at certain times of the week. Currently, they are open MWF from 0830 to 1700 for this purpose.

PS: I always wondered about the fingerprints. I do a fair amount of hiking solo in the backwoods, and if things all went to heck, I had hoped that if by nothing else, they could identify my body by the prints. I did some search and rescue in my younger years, and sometimes clothing (and wallets therein) could be ripped right off the body by a long fall down a rocky slope or by tumbling down a riverbed. Backpacks would usually stay on, if they were tightly strapped on. I keep a laminated business card in my backpacks for exactly this reason. So if they pluck me from the river or the snowbank during the spring thaw, the team can look in my backpack, call my office, and ask if I have been missing, say, the last five months or so.....

armedandsafe
May 28, 2005, 04:39 PM
I have prints on file from when they did a "print all children" in '52, from military (thrice,) from LEO work, from CHL in two states and from school bus driver certification. I'm going to re-apply this summer (open only on Thursdays) and they will print me again. I wonder how many times I have to go through this before I overflow the database? :confused: :p

Pops

USGuns
May 28, 2005, 11:27 PM
MillCreek, I'm about 3min drive from you...
So you had to drive up to the District courthouse in Everett, at the Sheriff's office there, to apply for your CPL?

MillCreek
May 30, 2005, 01:52 PM
That is correct. I live (just barely) outside the city limits in the unincorporated county, so I have to go up to the courthouse in downtown Everett. Last time I checked, the Mill Creek PD will only issue a CPL for those people actually within the city limits.

USGuns
June 5, 2005, 08:45 PM
For anyone else in unincorporated Snohomish Country, here's the link for info. on obtaining a concealed pistol license:
http://www1.co.snohomish.wa.us/Departments/Sheriff/Information/concealed_weapons.htm

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