A Gift to the Gun Industry


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RealGun
June 2, 2005, 01:20 PM
Excerpt from Washington Post:

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A Gift to the Gun Industry


Thursday, June 2, 2005; Page A22

THE PROTECTION of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, which the House Judiciary Committee approved last week, is not a nuanced piece of legislation. Its purpose is to blast out of court current and future lawsuits against firearms manufacturers and dealers for the carnage wrought with their products. This bill is no tort reform measure. Rather, it's a gimme for the gun industry, almost a blanket shield against even justified lawsuits.

The rash of lawsuits against the firearms industry is troubling. Guns are legal products, and it's usually not due to any product defect that they kill people. Many lawsuits against the industry are obvious attempts to use litigation to achieve policy changes that gun control proponents are unable to garner legislatively. We favor many of those policy changes, but litigation is not the answer to America's problem with guns.

But not all of the gun lawsuits are frivolous or deserve to be thrown out without examination.---------------

[RealGun]

I just hope they can appreciate that many of these companies are defense contractors. IMO it wouldn't be a good idea to bankrupt them unjustly.

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nico
June 2, 2005, 01:29 PM
What about a gun dealer who recklessly sells 100 handguns to an obvious straw buyer who then sells them to criminals who kill people? Should the courts not even entertain a negligence claim?
last time I checked, that would still be criminal negligence under the new law
What about a lawsuit against a manufacturer of firearms that are not useful for any legal purpose?
Noone should entertain BS questions like that until the author can present a gun that isn't useful for punching holes in paper.

IMO, this law would be much harder for the antis to whine about if it covered all industries and not just the gun industry.

dolanp
June 2, 2005, 01:43 PM
See it all goes back to their logic that guns are only tools for the sport of hunting and nothing more.

Oh and the infallible people across the blue line.

lunaslide
June 2, 2005, 01:49 PM
IMO, this law would be much harder for the antis to whine about if it covered all industries and not just the gun industry.

Perhaps, but the statists would instead argue that it's a gimmie to corporations.

Elmer
June 2, 2005, 02:03 PM
Oh and the infallible people across the blue line.

I enjoy THR, but rarely venture into Legal and Political. Those of you who use this forum as your personal soapbox to attack cops are the reason why.

Maybe you should ask yourself how much responsibility you have, for the Us Vs Them attitude in police work. When I was a young cop, most cops were shooters, and pro gun rights. That's changing, and the tin foil crowd is one of the reasons. Nobody likes to be continuously insulted as a group. Having a problem with the Mayors and big city Chiefs is understandable, and the feeling is shared by most street cops. Continue to lump all cops together, and don't be surprised that they lump gun folks in with crips and bloods.....

blackdragon
June 2, 2005, 04:50 PM
sigh..ignore this.

2nd Amendment
June 2, 2005, 04:59 PM
So Elmer, he makes a specific comment about the attitude gun-grabbers have, which is conbsistently that only police should be armed(thus implying only police are well-trained/infallible/inteligent enough to be armed) and you show up to instigate the cop-bashing by claiming he's at fault for cop-bashing? :rolleyes:

Maybe you don't come to L&P for other reasons more related to critical thinking and debate and discussion skills? Or do you actually subscribe to the idea cops are infallible(though I suppose I repeat myself with regard to the critical thinking skills)?

Elmer
June 2, 2005, 06:16 PM
Oh and the infallible people across the blue line.

So, if somebody refers to "those Nazi 2nd ammendment nuts" you would assume they were only referring to actual Nazi's, and meant no offense toward pro gun rights folks?


Maybe you don't come to L&P for other reasons more related to critical thinking and debate and discussion skills? Or do you actually subscribe to the idea cops are infallible(though I suppose I repeat myself with regard to the critical thinking skills)?

I'll try and take a lesson in debating skills from you.

Let's see if I got it right....

If someone makes a point, from a different perspective, that you disagree with, insult their intelligence, and question their communication skills. Gotcha.....

And no, I don't think cops are anywhere close to infallible, nor did I say anything remotely like that in my post.

Oh shoot.... I forgot to insult you. Sorry, I'll try and do better next time.....

RealGun
June 2, 2005, 06:49 PM
Are we going to discuss insulting policemen or gun manufacturer lawsuit protection?

jefnvk
June 2, 2005, 06:50 PM
I took the whole blue line to mean Democrats :confused:

Anyway, they can whine all the want. Just makes them look like losers. And with statements like this:
almost a blanket shield against even justified lawsuits

Anyone with half a mind should be able to read into that that someone is thying to twist things to their likings.

Bartholomew Roberts
June 2, 2005, 07:31 PM
:scrutiny: There are 101 threads with the subject of cop-bashing and cop bashing-bashing already scattered throughout the board. Please be courteous enough to other members to either take your discussion to one of those threads or use PMs. Please keep this thread on the subject of the Lawsuit Preemption bill. If you cannot extend that courtesy to your fellow members, you might be better off looking for a board that is more to your liking.

nico
June 3, 2005, 02:36 AM
Anyone with half a mind should be able to read into that that someone is thying to twist things to their likings.
You would think that. But based on the arguments I've had on another non-gun board with people who want to ban all guns and wait for the black market to dry up so we won't have any crime and the "Don't blame me. I voted against the antichrist" bumper sticker I saw today I'm not so sure.

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