[4570Rick]

I've seen and heard just about all the lame noise I can stand from the anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-American, pour blood on me and I’ll play dead protesters I can stand. I don’t want war. Nobody in their right mind wants war, but when it is unavoidable, you suck it up and do what needs to be done. If you don’t think the monsters (Saddam and Sons) need to be removed from power, I got this from the Times online tonight. Just one more act of inhumanity by these (deleted expletive) excuses for human garbage.

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March 18, 2003

See men shredded, then say you don't back war
By Ann Clwyd



“There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein’s youngest son] personally supervise these murders.” :banghead: :cuss: :fire:

Here's the rest of the article

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3284-614607,00.html :barf:

[Bob Locke]

I can't say I'm for this, either, but we're getting it.

Best I can do is pray for minimal casualties on our side and a quick end to things (though I don't see this being a "quickie" in the least).

Do I think Hussein is an animal? Absolutely. And he's got plenty of company on the international stage, though we're not being told about a lot of them.

Do I think he needs to go? Without a doubt. But I think that the Iraqi people need to be the ones to rise up in defiance and ask for the world's help, and that's IF they want it.

A lot of this has to do with a culture clash as much as anything. America is predominantly Judeo-Christian, and our general morality as a nation stems from that. That makes it pretty difficult for us to comprehend how other nations who are very, very different in nature are the way they are. Their systems of "right" and "wrong" don't always mesh with ours, and sometimes are 180-degrees out from our way of thinking.

I guess I say that to say this: I don't think it is the role of our government to decide for another nation how it should operate, short of telling them to leave us the hell alone or else pay the consequences.

Hussein's been doing a lot of barking, and it appears that we're gonna muzzle him prior to any biting. A few month ago I had a larger problem with that than I do right now. I just want it over ASAP.

[Drjones]

Does anyone doubt we're doing the right thing

Not after reading about two paragraphs into that article, if it is true.

I had to stop reading.

And surely not after Bush's speech.

And definitely not, seeing as how I am in possession of a brain.

[ZekeLuvs1911]

I have no doubts that this is the correct thing. Evil exists because good people do nothing. I only pray that it will be quick and relatively painless for all sides involved.

[Khornet]

or half a heart, has doubts. We're all operating in the dark. You just feed what little data you have into your ethics program, and go with your best answer, hoping you're right.

But even though you have doubts, you also have to keep in mind that sooner or later you have to make a decision. To refuse to decide is to decide against. If we knew everything, it wouldn't be called a decision.

[Leatherneck]

You guys, me, Colin Powell, and lots of others had doubts. I resolved a couple of weeks ago to take this opportunity to shut up. No offense intended at all, but I feel that the more we vacillate now that we're committed, the more moral support we lend to the enemy, the opposition, and the peace-at-all cost crowd. I won't do that.

YMMV.

TC
TFL Survivor

[clem]

As dis-tasefull as this is, let's roll up our sleeves and do the deed, together as one nation, and as one people behind our men and women on the front line.

God be with us.

[AnklePocket]

Zero doubts. It all became clear on Sept. 11, 2001. Terrorism must be addressed. I didn't really fully understand the concept of war until I saw the NY skyline from North Jersey that morning.
As far as the Iraqi people: from what Iraqi Americans are saying on TV, the people of Iraq very much want this war and for America to win swiftly and decisively.
Our national leadership is the best that I've ever seen. I think that they're staying on the right side of the thin line of liberty vs. security.
As for the anti-war protesters - they've declared themselves to be mentally incapable of comprehending reality. I've started ignoring them today to declare them insignificant.
Overall, time will accurately tell the whole story.

[Blackhawk]

You always have doubts, even decades after you've made the absolutely right decision and taken successful action on that decision and had the rightness of your decisions and actions proved conclusively over and over again from every conceivable perspective.

The blessing is when you don't have doubts about what you're doing at the time you have to do it.

You plan the flight, fly the plan, then wonder about it for the rest of your life.

[DeltaElite]

I have no doubts, none at all, that we are doing the right thing.
I do regret the loss of life, but Sadaam could have walked away and prevented it all.

[SodaPop]

We gotta kill off an enormous number of people in the middle east but I don't know if this is the right way.

Bush knows more than I do so I'm trusting his decision making.

[ahadams]

no doubts, no regrets. and the President said something tonight that indicated to me that he understood exactly what he was doing. It was the sentence that started "At my orders..." unlike many in the past, this guy knows what personal responsibility is all about.

[Greg L]

You always have doubts when there is a major decision to be made. I've done things that I knew were right at the time, that turned out to be the right thing with hindsight, and yet was almost paralyzed with doubt at the time. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and do what you believe to be right and let the chips fall where they may. Thankfully the country is being led by someone who will do that rather than taking an opinion poll on everything.

Greg

[Joe Gunns]

AIHSB:
If not us, who?
If not now, when?

Time to hunt.

[Lord Grey Boots]

I had no doubts this was the right thing to do about 11 years ago, when it was clear that Saddam was not disarming.

[labgrade]

I've my doubts - about a lot of things.

I think we need to do this Iraq-thig - & much more, but whole we do this, we are clamping further down on our own populace, while leaving borders open - & so much more that we could do to provide for our internal security.

I am all for gettin' those who need gettin', but isn't all this to provide for the securing of our own liberties?

Why is it we are losing more of the latter?