Dangit...it's been a LONG time since I've done a plea for help...


Jim March
March 18, 2003, 05:45 AM

At present, I'm working on three projects:

1) The whole CCW thing. We're closing in on the final lawsuit to actually FIX this crap, pending getting certain specific people through the application process and with "standing to sue". The lawyer is lined up. We have enough research on the equal protection violations and especially *racial* discrimination evidence to proceed. We even have the case law and gameplan together - see also "A Practical Guide To Race And Gun Control", esp. the 2nd chapter - the 1st is good background, but isn't what we'll use in court:


2) We have two mild CCW reform bills in play this year. I'm feeding data to both efforts (AB462 by Haynes and SB435 by Knight) and helping prep 435 for revision.

See also this document for an example of what I mean:


(A second version is being customized for SB435.)

3) I'm involved in a MAJOR project, sort of a "continuation of the MMM thing". Can't go into details yet, not in public.

The good news: I've got funding to keep operating full time coming. Some professional writing projects are in the pipe, a locally produced grant in a few weeks it appears, and that'll give me a little extra to kick off the holster biz and stay solvent long-term.

Problem: I've run flat out of operating cash to live for those two weeks. I need about $300. If you can help, and you're previously known in the RKBA world, I can show you what #3 is about, and why having to walk away for a while just to earn survival cash would be a mess.

If you can help, or know of a possible grant source, drop me a line at jmarch@prodigy.net

Thanks in any case for reading this far.

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March 18, 2003, 11:48 AM
Do you have a paypal acct set up?

If not, you should consider it. It could even be an under the table slap in the face considering their recent policy on not allowing their service to be used for the sale of firearms.

March 18, 2003, 11:51 AM
i can paypal ya 20 bucks no problem

March 18, 2003, 01:19 PM
Post an address or e-mail it to me. I'll help with some of it. JT

March 18, 2003, 01:21 PM
Ask and ye shall receive, Jim. I can pitch in a couple bucks...just name your first born son Gabe...

- Gabe

March 18, 2003, 01:37 PM
Jim - I haven't talked to you person to person ever but I DO follow everything you are working on (that I know of) and would be happy to help you get through the next two weeks...

Let me know how and where to send a check and you got it... May not be much but I know it will help...

March 18, 2003, 01:58 PM
Check your e-mail
Preacherman can vouch for me

Silver Bullet
March 18, 2003, 02:59 PM
I'll mail ya a check if ya give me an address.

Everybody here talks the talk, but not everybody here walks the walk, especially the way you do, Jim. I'm proud to have you on our side.

Jim March
March 18, 2003, 03:23 PM
'Kay, I've got a PayPal addy:


If you want to snailmail a check, EMail me. I can't give my home addy out on a public forum, I've got just too much dirt on too many sheriffs to make that a sane idea :).

Folks: thanks.

March 18, 2003, 03:29 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, Jim is fighting OUR battle on the very front lines. There are 4,246 registered members of THR as I write this. If just HALF of us actually care about doing something other than moaning and bitching, we can help our cause forward a long way.

Just $5 each would go a loooooong way. Do $20 if you can. Nobody needs to pop for hundreds. If everyone would just pass up a six pack and send the cash to Jim, he'd be in good shape to carry on the fight.

This here looks like a good place to put up or shut up!

March 18, 2003, 03:35 PM
Yes, Jim goes above and beyond the call of duty. There should be more people like him in every State.

March 18, 2003, 03:50 PM
Just e-mailed you Jim. Kind words and a check in the mail. Can't beat that with a stick!

TFL Survivor

March 18, 2003, 05:07 PM
Forum Members:

I have just reviewed 3 documents.
Information makes it blatanly obvious that a) something is up, b) something needs to happen, and c) Jim needs our support.

IMO information confirms this has a broader reach, coming to town near you?--nope--machinery already in place...watch six


Greg L
March 18, 2003, 05:29 PM
Money on the way. I'm just sorry that it couldn't have been more.

For all the time that Jim puts into fighting the good fight for all of us we need to help him out now. Just a few dollars from a lot of people can make a difference.


March 18, 2003, 05:30 PM

If you haven't gotten enough by this weekend, drop me an email and I'll do what I can.

Nathaniel Firethorn
March 18, 2003, 05:36 PM
Donation on the way. Please remember that you got help from PRNJ when you needed it.

- pdmoderator

March 18, 2003, 07:21 PM
send me a PM with your address and I'll send a check

March 18, 2003, 08:22 PM
Jim needs our help, he is fighting for freedom. It may be in the Socialist state of CA., but where else is it more needed now.

If Jim can pull off more of what he has done already for RKBA, and put a stop in CA. It may cause other states to think twice about screwing with the RKBA.

PS: No I dont live in CA. I live in a state of total dismay that this Republic is becoming a Socialist haven for all the scum that thinks we should be some kind of "ism" like socialism, communism etc. ism`s.

March 18, 2003, 09:21 PM
$5 inbound via paypal. it's not much, but it's something. if everyone else does the same, we can do some serious good here

March 18, 2003, 09:22 PM
oh, and if it's at all possible ...
when you get CCW in CA fixed where more people can get it, see if you can get CA to recognize bordering states' permits, too.

March 19, 2003, 12:47 AM
$$ has been paypaled, thanks for all your efforts!

March 19, 2003, 01:08 AM
Look for a little dab from me via paypal.



March 19, 2003, 02:31 AM

Sent via Paypal.

Just keep us updated, please!!!

And I'm in Sacto...let me know how else I can help!!!


Jim March
March 19, 2003, 04:18 AM

Guys, I am seriously impressed.

Here's the situation: given what's already hit PayPal, and the pledges for mail-in money, plus one pledge from somebody local for $100 who I'm insisting I'm gonna come over and make him a holster at least :), I've got "survival money" for a month. That's enough time for one of two other planned fundraisers to kick in, and/or an article sale I'm working on...I sent a copy of something neat but not "top secret" to most of the people pledging or kicking in with PayPal.

If another $150 - $200 comes in on top of that, I can get *serious* with the whole holster thing, partner up with a local gunshop and do mail-order sales using their inventory as "molds"...plus get a proper heat gun so I'm doing tighter molds than a blowdryer can do (which is barely adequate).

Either way, I'm in way better shape :). Can't thank y'all enough.

March 19, 2003, 05:16 AM
I just sent you 10 bucks via PayPal my friend, I'm glad to help you in the fight for our rights. Good luck to you and yours.

Michael in Sandy, OR

March 19, 2003, 10:28 AM

Go get 'em.


Silver Bullet
March 19, 2003, 10:38 AM
Money sent via regular mail.

I was gonna buy a Dixie Ch... never mind. :) Money's coming !

March 19, 2003, 10:59 AM
Funds incoming via Paypal. Keep up the good fight.

March 19, 2003, 01:08 PM

It really warms my heart to see all this support, and to know that we have helped you (Jim) so much.

Most of you, myself included, don't know Jim at all.

I've never met him (yet), nor have many of you who sent him money.


I'm impressed too....

Thank you all, and thank you Jim!!!


March 19, 2003, 01:24 PM
I was gonna buy a Dixie Ch... never mind. Money's coming !

That's what I like to see! Stop giving it to the enemy, give it to our friends!

Let's see more of this talking with your wallet!


Jim March
March 19, 2003, 11:57 PM
OK, all...HOLD IT!!! :D

Right, no new pledges please :). Go ahead and mail any existing pledges, I've been keeping a rough tally, assuming 2/3rds or more of the snailmail pledges come through, I've got survival needs for a month, plus enough for some holstermaking supplies, plus enough to get to Sacramento a couple times as the bills come up (no word yet).

So this is official: NO new pledges. Send what you'd planned by snailmail as long as you can without hurt, in any case...THANKS! With any luck y'all have just got my feet back under me.

Thank you.

Jim March
March 20, 2003, 03:41 PM
Bumping so everybody gets the message :).

March 20, 2003, 04:10 PM
You CAN'T make us stop! :neener:


March 20, 2003, 04:47 PM
Uh, well, I read about 1/2 way down the previous page before I got my Paypal window all fired up and shot off some dough to ya Jim.

I don't post much, nor even lurk much since TFL went down, but I've always believed in ya and appreciated what you so for us stuck here in Kali.

Hell, use what I sent you for beer money. You earned it. Drop me a line if you ever need help again or a place to crash down here in San Diego.

Jim March
March 20, 2003, 06:35 PM
I dunno whether to :D or :banghead:.

More :D of course...

Sigh. Any "excess" will go to one or the other lawsuits so there's no "waste".

March 20, 2003, 06:51 PM
Sigh. Any "excess" will go to one or the other lawsuits so there's no "waste".

Exactly. So shaddap, willya? :D

And I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't mind if you used some to splurge on a pizza or a six-pack. OOr even a box of ammo and a range trip! :what:

You've earned it. http://www.thehighroad.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

Jim March
March 20, 2003, 07:24 PM
Negatory on the six-pack, I don't drink :D. It's a taste thing :barf:.

Don't smoke, never done a recreational drug in my life...boooring. Hey, but at least I ain't *completely* politically correct :p.

March 20, 2003, 10:22 PM
And I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't mind if you used some to splurge on a pizza or a six-pack. OOr even a box of ammo and a range trip!

You've earned it.

You speak for me too, sir.

I agree Jim; you've earned it!!!

Thank you!

March 20, 2003, 10:43 PM
make sure you transfer most of the paypal donations to a real bank account

Paypal can lock you out of an account for 180 days if they want to...

Jim March
March 21, 2003, 01:19 AM
Yes, I'm well aware of the hazards of PayPal :(. Already done.

March 21, 2003, 03:22 AM
Oops. Already fired off an email for your mailing address before I even got to the second page. I'm still more than willing to contribute if you need it - your help to me personally, and the cause in general has been invaluable.



March 21, 2003, 06:39 PM

I've been trying to follow your struggle against the Kali bureaucrats. I want CCW in **********, and feel bad that there is not more that I can do for it.

Even though you said "no more", I'm sending along a little bit, just to try and make me feel like I'm helping.

Use it as you see fit. I hope the day arrives soon when we can see the fruits of your labors.

Good luck,

David Row
San Diego

rock jock
March 21, 2003, 06:46 PM
I can tell you from having met Jim at CounterAttack, he is one of the good guys. Totally committed to a good cause in hostile territory. One of these days, Jim, I am going to treat you to the best steak dinner you have ever had. In the meantime, if you need any more help, send me an email. Sorry I didn't see this in time.

If the rest of you still want to help Jim out, I am sure he wouldn't mind taking your orders for a holster. I can attest that they are good quality and ther is nothing else like them on the market today.

Jim March
March 21, 2003, 10:55 PM
Guys, jeez, stop arready!


Rock Jock: tell me something, have you noticed that "final molding to your body effect" yet? For anybody curious, what's different about my rigs is, the main body is very thin .060-grade kydex while the belt connections are the more common, thicker .090, and there are swivel-connections linking them. So the first advantage is that the whole thing "flexes" at the hinges in ways kydex holsters normally don't as you sit/stand/etc. The second effect, which has been an interesting surprise, is that the .060 stuff I'm using is very slowly affected by body heat, and kind of do their own "final mold" to your body shape just from being worn. It doesn't appear serious enough to affect the gun's safe and tight-enough fit, so I'm calling it a "feature" versus "bug" :).

rock jock
March 21, 2003, 10:58 PM
To some degree, yes. I haven't been able to carry my Kimber concealed as much as I would like as the weather is starting to warm up. When I fully transition to shorts and summer shirts, I'll start to carry it more.

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