Ever wanted a gun just because you liked the cartridge?


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thatguy
June 5, 2005, 10:26 AM
For some reason I have long been intrigued by the .300 H&H Magnum cartridge. I know that the .300 Winchester is more powerful, and the truth is that I really have no practical use for any .300 Magnum. But I just like the sound of the name and looks of that long, tapering cartridge. I also really like the Ruger #1 and have considered getting one in .308 or 30-06 and having it converted to the .300 H&H.

Does this sound silly?

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dakotasin
June 5, 2005, 10:29 AM
no.
i've bought guns for far sillier reasons... but unless those purchases are truly asinine, i seem to enjoy them more than the purchases i scrimped and saved for.

tc300mag1
June 5, 2005, 10:50 AM
Nope not silly at all ive done it :neener:

knzn
June 5, 2005, 10:55 AM
Boys buy boy toys for all sorts of reasons. Then we stand by the water fountains at work and argue about whats best.

Personally, I have a Bolt action Mauser simply because I didn't feel like a complete rifleman without a Mauser. It didn't matter (to me) what it was chambered for.

And then I have a rifle, make and model not important (to me) chambered in 7-08 simply because I had to have a 7-08.

Not silly at all!

Bwana John
June 5, 2005, 11:44 AM
I just HAD to have a .375 H&H !!!
Anything, anywhere, this side of the K/T boundry baby!

Berek
June 5, 2005, 11:47 AM
I used to collect 1 loaded round from each rifle/handgun that I shot. After a while, I began to think "Hmmmm. I have one round of .223 Rem. I need a rifile to shoot that. Oh, and I have one .270 round and 1 7.62x39 and..."

It snowballs. My girlfriend tells me that this is not a good reason to buy a rifle/handgun, but I disagree. How else can I dwindle this collection of shells?

Berek

rwc
June 5, 2005, 11:48 AM
Do yourself a favor and buy a Limbsaver pad.
Do your friends at the range a favor and don't buy a muzzlebrake. :D

WhiteKnight
June 5, 2005, 07:09 PM
unless those purchases are truly asinine, i seem to enjoy them more than the purchases i scrimped and saved for.

Oddly, I've had much the same experience.

patentnonsense
June 5, 2005, 07:27 PM
Sure - and often the cartridge IS what really defines the gun. Any .375HH bolt action can do things that no .30 rifle can. The space of pistol and revolver cartrides is more crowded, but there are still some cartridges with really attractive characteristics - e.g. Tokarev, .44M, 10mm, 9x23Win.

Sharps Shooter
June 5, 2005, 07:35 PM
Sure. I'd like to have a .308 Norma Mag. because I like it's looks, and partly because when I was a teenager I knew several older hunters who had their 30-06s converted to .308 Norma Mags., and I was jealous. I have a .300 Winchester Mag. of my own now. Practically speaking, I know it will do everything a .308 Norma Mag. will do, but I still want one. One of these days I'll have one. ;)

jobu07
June 5, 2005, 07:35 PM
FN 5.7 and the FN P90. I think that 5.7 is a hot little number, and liberals hate it! :evil:

P95Carry
June 5, 2005, 07:38 PM
YEP!!! :p

Having reached one stage of grin factor with 45-70 in my BFR - the logical progression was want a Ruger #1 :D

rbernie
June 5, 2005, 07:51 PM
On the other hand, I have a 243 not because I wanted a 243, but because I love the Savage 99 and that was the chambering that one particular example came in. It could have been worse - I could have wound up with 250-3000... :what:

patentnonsense
June 5, 2005, 08:10 PM
And a follow-on thread might be: WHICH cartridges are so extremely cool that one SHOULD get a piece to use them in? For me history is a factor, as well as good design and good practicality. For example, .45ACP, 9x19, 30-06 and 375H&H and 50BMG have a lot of history behind them, and are good designs too. Two of the other cartridges I listed (10x25 and 9x23) are much younger, but have a lot of advantages.

P95Carry
June 5, 2005, 08:26 PM
not because I wanted a 243, but because I love the Savage 99 and that was the chambering that one particular example came in. rbernie - ditto ......... :) :)


http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/thr/cb_gun2/99c_s.jpg

Infidel
June 5, 2005, 09:35 PM
Yeah. I have a cartridge like that in mind right now. .376 Steyr. The only factory guns that I have seen chambered for .376 Steyr are ... Steyrs. The Scout and the Pro Mountain, or something like that. Good rifles, but with little bitty short stubby barrels, 19" and 20". I would have bought either one in a New York minute if they had decent length barrels, minimum 24".

Maybe a Yugo Mauser converted ... nah, that gets to be too much bother. I really wish someone would build a proper rifle for .376 Steyr.

jefnvk
June 5, 2005, 09:49 PM
I've bought guns because ammo was cheap (8mm Mauser, 7.62x39, 7.62x54, .223, etc)

joab
June 5, 2005, 09:53 PM
It's the main reason I want a Sharpes in 45/70.

I bought a Model 10 because I found a neat clamshell holster for it, did the same thing with a Taurus 66 6"

rbernie
June 5, 2005, 11:01 PM
OT, but P95 - that's a really nice set of furniture on that Savage. Is that stock, well, stock? I was of the impression that only the 358's came with the Monte Carlo stock-n-recoil-pad....

P95Carry
June 5, 2005, 11:08 PM
rbernie - that is a ''stock stock'' :p - exactly ''out the box'' - it was no wonder I was so darned pleased with it - seeing as it was a winning from a firehall gun raffle!! Not my usual sorta luck at all.

I am still just as pleased now. :)

I know many rate the early 99's much more highly, and wish I had one but this is certainly one beaut' of a rifle. IIRC Savage dropped the 99 series a few years ago now - shame.

spalit
June 5, 2005, 11:19 PM
Yup, I got my Tikka T3 because I *HAD* to have my first centerfire rifle in the all-purpose .308

rbernie
June 5, 2005, 11:26 PM
seeing as it was a winning from a firehall gun raffle!! WOW. Very nice.....

VARifleman
June 5, 2005, 11:27 PM
I used to collect 1 loaded round from each rifle/handgun that I shot. After a while, I began to think "Hmmmm. I have one round of .223 Rem. I need a rifile to shoot that. Oh, and I have one .270 round and 1 7.62x39 and..."

It snowballs. My girlfriend tells me that this is not a good reason to buy a rifle/handgun, but I disagree. How else can I dwindle this collection of shells?

Berek
A friend of mine bought an AR-15 because he found a .223 casing. His logic was "If I reloaded, which I don't, I could shoot this." He also bought mags for guns he didn't have so he could justify buying them. His girlfriend bought a gun because it was pretty, and he responded with "Well...there are much sillier reasons used to buy a gun." :uhoh:

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
June 5, 2005, 11:27 PM
Yeah, 6.5x55 is half of what has caused me to buy 3 Swedish Mausers.

Bet you can't guess what the other half is! :D


Regards,
Rabbit

P95Carry
June 5, 2005, 11:31 PM
Bet you can't guess what the other half is! Bwhaha - nah - no idea!! :) :neener:

nico
June 6, 2005, 12:05 AM
One of the main reasons I bought my SKS is the price of 7.62X39mm ammo. I also want to have something in 45-70, .375H&H (or larger), and .44mag some day.

Red Tornado
June 6, 2005, 12:19 PM
Yeah, I'm still waiting for something in .223/5.56x45. Unfortunately, I hate the look of EBR's, so something with nice wood, simple, not too fancy....
RT

jobu07
June 6, 2005, 12:21 PM
so something with nice wood, simple, not too fancy....You know, they do make wood furniture for AR-15's ;)

captain obvious
June 6, 2005, 12:48 PM
does .22LR count? I've got what must be the world's crappiest .22 rifle (romanian M1969); bought it cause I needed a .22 rifle

Dave R
June 6, 2005, 12:55 PM
I've got what must be the world's crappiest .22 rifle (romanian M1969); bought it cause I needed a .22 rifle
I beg to differ! The Romanian 1969 is a fine .22. Most of them just happen to LOOK crappy. They shoot well, though. I took mine to a gunsmith friend who had never seen one before. I got all excited about the design. Something like only 6 moving parts or something. Should last approximately forever. I dunno, I just like to shoot it.

Back of topic, noe reason other than desire needes. And yes, some cartridges ARE that cool. Ya just gotta have one.

As a personal favor, I'll give you a ligitimate reason in case you need one. In Colorado Springs, IIRC, a bunch of Bison escaped and wound up in a residential neighborhood. The cops had to put them down with .223s. What a terrible way for a bison to go. You need to have that H&H in case you have to do something similar. Hey! It happened! Threads on THR if you do a search.

Red Tornado
June 6, 2005, 01:00 PM
Sorry for a brief thread drift, but...

they do make wood furniture for AR-15's

Anybody know where? I've been looking and came up empty.
Thanks,
RT

Gewehr98
June 6, 2005, 02:54 PM
So I bought a Ruger #1S in the same chambering. I think that's why P95/Chris bought his, too! :D

P95Carry
June 6, 2005, 03:22 PM
Hahaha - Gewehr - you are as weak willed as I am I do declare! ;) :)

jefnvk
June 6, 2005, 05:01 PM
they do make wood furniture for AR-15's



Anybody know where? I've been looking and came up empty.
Thanks,

Check over on ARFCOM. There was a guy that was getting production going on them

EDIT: here you go. Don't look like they are availble yet, though. http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=232373&page=1

nico
June 6, 2005, 08:36 PM
Red Tornado, the Mini-14 is a .223 chambered gun with wood furniture. They're also cheaper than the average AR iirc.

gbran
June 6, 2005, 09:14 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/gbran/Bullpup.jpg

captain obvious
June 6, 2005, 11:32 PM
About the M1969 - didn't say I didn't like it - just it needs to be "supplimented" - soon (just like all my other guns) :evil:

Eightball
June 6, 2005, 11:53 PM
Gbran, how'd you manage to get a P90 :confused: ? I want one too!

Red Tornado
June 7, 2005, 10:27 AM
Thanks for the link Jeff, that's almost not ugly, however, it's no M1. :evil:

Gbran, that hits all the technical points. :) Nice wood, much nicer rifle. I think I'm probably going to end up with an NEF, or Thompson, or a decent bolt action. I don't need a .223 battle rifle, got that covered. Ping. However recent purchases have pushed the .223 back farther yet. I knew that C&R would be trouble. ;)
RT

Nuts590
June 7, 2005, 12:12 PM
Glad to know I'm not the only person that puts the cartridge before the gun, so to speak. I'm still trying to decide what to shoot 325 WSM out of. :D

I couldn't agree more about the C&R being trouble! I never thought I would consider anything over $200 an "expensive rifle." I'm having problems thinking of spending more than $150 for unissued Yugo's. I think I just realized my wife is right... I really *am* cheap!! :neener:

Malamute
June 7, 2005, 12:58 PM
Well, yes, and no. I NEED a 50-100-450 WCF (the heavy bullet loading of the 50-110 WCF) in a Winchester/Browning 1886. I like the 1886's very much anyway, but in a .50 they are even more attractive. I did find some 450 gr Barnes bullets at a guns how for a good price, so it looks like a realy do have to follow through at some point on my desire to have a .50 cal 1886. The $15 or so I saved on the bullets should help defray the $300 for dies, $200 for brass, and the $600 or $800 for the conversion work on the rifle.



I really liked Clyde Williamsons description of shooting a BC grizzly with the 50-100-450 and getting end-for-end penetration with an exit hole,...and the 6" tree the bullet went through after the bear. About the same results an moose also. Need to field test and confirm the results.

Essex County
June 7, 2005, 01:12 PM
I once bought a nicely done Mauser sporter in .338. I needed it like a hole in the head. I loaded for it, had a grand old time. More recoil than my .300 winchester which was about my upper limit. I unloaded it to a friend who had to have it. Dies, brass components, etc. Silly purchase? No. I had my fun...If You like or want something go for it. Have a good time.........Essex

Moonclip
June 7, 2005, 06:26 PM
I like most any half way decent gun in 9mm para due to low price of centerfire ammo in this caliber. Same with 22lr firearms, I will buy many just because the caliber is cheap to shoot and if the gun is halfway decent and priced right I will probably buy it especially if it is a handgun.

I have a liking for guns that are chambered in 22short too, I have 2 Beretta 950's so chambered. I don't know why as I'm sure a old Benjamin/Sheridan pump air rifle is about as powerful and does not require a 4473 and 22 short ammo costs more than 22lr these days.

To a lesser extent I like most bottleneck pistol cartridges like 7.62 tok or 357sig and I also like guns chambered in 38super but usually only in the 1911 pattern although there is a few out there like the Sig Sauer P220 that are so chambered that I like but don't own yet.

FXR
June 7, 2005, 08:36 PM
I want a Sako in 6.5x55 so bad I'm almost willing to trade in the kid's college fund.

Yes, I know Sako makes rifles in other calibers than that, but I only see the ones in 6.5x55. Maybe with the 2005 tax return it will be mine.

K

antarti
June 7, 2005, 09:16 PM
I have always been a fan of LeMag conversion guns, because you get a lot of firepower in convenient packages, using cool wildcats or calibers.

A couple examples:

1) M1 carbine in .45 Win Mag
2) M1 carbine in 10mm Magnum
3) AR15 in .45 Professional

Of course, I can never seem to afford the VERY few of these I find... :(

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