Front Page Common Sense!
armoredman
June 12, 2005, 12:26 PM
I would never have believed it if not for my wife buying the "Red" Star, and showing me a big front page double photo, one of a revolver, and another of a kid diving into a pool. Front page, on Sunday - everyone in Tucson is reading this right now...right hand side, under Special Reports
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TarpleyG
June 12, 2005, 02:28 PM
We should be banning pools, hot tubs, tubs, toilets, buckets, oceans, rivers, and streams by a leftist's logic then. Why aren't they doing anything about all this death and mayhem and water in the streets??? People need to realize that life is dangerous and start taking some personal responsibility for themselves. We cannot live life in a padded room. I can't believe that woman had them put a fence around the lake. If she had been paying attention to her little carpet lizard, he wouldn't have wandered off and damn near drowned.
Greg
El Tejon
June 12, 2005, 02:36 PM
Tarpley, come now, you certainly can't expect parents to teach their children to overcome hazards, e.g. life. We must be shielded from life. :scrutiny:
Maybe we should just ban water for blissninnies? Save the children, ban the water. Imagine, no more blissninnies in 3 or 4 days. :cool:
benEzra
June 12, 2005, 04:09 PM
The "safety handout" from the pediatrician's office, published by the American Academy of Pediatrics, contains dire warnings about the danger of gun accidents for kids aged 2 to 4 years, and sternly says that "It is best to keep all guns out of the home. If you choose to keep a gun, keep it unloaded and in a locked place separate from the ammunition. Handguns are especially dangerous." [emphasis in original]
The safety handout says NOT ONE WORD about pool safety, even though on a per-owning-household basis kids under 5 are 100 times more likely to die in a pool accident than in a gun accident. The handout discusses falls, "firearm hazards," burns, and poisoning in that order, and almost as an afterthought tacks on "And Remember Car Safety" at the very end...
BTW, the part about "handguns are especially dangerous" is pretty silly, since stats that break down gun-accident fatalities by type of gun tend to show that long guns are overrepresented compared to the prevalence of long guns kept for HD with respect to handguns (see Kates et al, "Guns and Public Health: Epidemic of Violence or Pandemic of Propaganda?" [61 Tenn. L. Rev. 513-596 (1994).] (http://www.guncite.com/journals/tennmed.html)
It's pretty obvious that the AAP's real agenda is political rather than mortality/morbidity driven here... :scrutiny:
Mad Man
June 12, 2005, 04:39 PM
To save everyone some trouble:
A 310 KB .pdf version of the front page is at http://www.azstarnet.com/ss/2005/06/12/frontpage.pdf
Special reports is at http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/specialreports/
The specific story is at http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/specialreports/79388.php
DWS1117
June 12, 2005, 04:50 PM
The safety handout says NOT ONE WORD about pool safety, even though on a per-owning-household basis kids under 5 are 100 times more likely to die in a pool accident than in a gun accident.
I can just about guarantee that there are more homes with at least one gun than there are homes with a pool. Last time I looked (granted it has been a while since the wife let me buy a gub) pools cost considerably more than a gun.
Standing Wolf
June 12, 2005, 04:53 PM
I can just about guarentee that there are more homes with at least one gun than there are homes with a pool.
I'm sure you're right, but equally sure kids gather at neighbors' pools to swim more frequently than at neighbors' houses to play with guns.
I'd guess there are more pools per 100 children than households in which children have ready access to firearms. That's just a guess.
armoredman
June 12, 2005, 10:17 PM
I was referring to the incredible circumstance of having such a headline, and the following plain sense about death rates.
KriegHund
June 12, 2005, 10:45 PM
Indeed amroredman. Very strange to see such a not anti-gun message in newspapers.
nico
June 12, 2005, 10:56 PM
The classic response I've seen to those kinds of statistics is "well pools weren't designed to kill people." :scrutiny:
Duh_Bear
June 12, 2005, 11:19 PM
You could respond, "Neither are guns. Bullets are." :evil:
Remington788
June 13, 2005, 03:13 AM
So if something not designed to kill is 100 times more likely to kill then.... :scrutiny:
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