Not sure this is what you had in mind or what shipping costs are though.
June 13, 2005, 11:13 AM
I probably get the winchester white box value packs at walmart the most these days, but you can order fiocchi from cheaper than dirt or the like fairly inexpensively
June 13, 2005, 11:43 AM
"cost convenience quality" in that order definitely means LEAD
i bought a bunch at www.wideners.com earlier this year for $32/1000 (well, $320/10,000).
loading and cleaning lead is not convenient, but i'm very satisfied with the performance.
June 13, 2005, 07:54 PM
If you want to practice in your garage, you can use Speers plastic training bullets. Powered with primer only. Haven't tried it with .45acp yet, but use them all the time for 9mm and .308acp. They won't cycle the autoloader, obviously, but they are great for draw & shoot drills, and seem to shoot near enough to POA that I can't tell the difference in impact between the plastic bullets and 'real' bullets.
And you can re-use 'em, so the only cost is the cost of primers.
I hang an old surplus wool blanket as a backstop, tape on target(s) and drill as desired. The blanket catches the bullets and makes it easy to find them in the garage (especially if the garage floor is somewhat clean....)
Somebody makes rubber practice bullets, too, but I have never tried them. Just found the Speer bullets locally, and have been using them ever since. Still on my ooriginal box after 2+ years....
June 13, 2005, 09:52 PM
Remington Bulk Bullets from Midway....
June 14, 2005, 12:37 AM
Well, I like the Magnus 200 grain L-SWC's for practice loads; as they cut
a neat round hole in your target. :) :D
Headless Thompson Gunner
June 14, 2005, 02:39 AM
Practicing in my garage sounds kinda cool. How loud are the primer-only plastic rounds?
Does anyone know of a .45 bullet that doesn't have any exposed lead and still costs less than about $60 per 1000? I've been using Rainier plated bullets in the past, but I want to know if there is a more economical option.
Those cast bullets from Wideners sound like a pretty good deal at about $35 per 1000. How come nobody else can sell cast lead bullets for less than about $50 or $60? There's nothing wrong with the Widener's bullets, is there?
June 14, 2005, 11:17 AM
the wideners bullets are fine (although wideners themselves can be annoying). i've shot about 4 thousand of them so far this spring and no problems whatsoever.
as someone else mentioned, midwayusa occasionally has sales on winchester FMJ bullets. they were around $60/1000 on sale and are of course fully copper jacketed, not plated. i bought about 3000 of them back around december (last sale was around christmas i think) but i haven't shot that many, as i prefer the 200g and they only come in 230g.
just keep an eye out for their sales.
June 14, 2005, 11:58 AM
I get mine from Penn.......http://www.pennbullets.com/
I use the 200 gr LSWC, a H&G 68 style bullet. They shoot fine IMO, or at least better then I do and the prices are reasonable. Talk to him when you order, he`s very helpful and will guide you to the largest orders possible within a shipping price range. The last time I ordered I bought 2350 and paid as I remember ~$15 shipping, the same as the price to ship 500.
June 14, 2005, 03:58 PM
I ordered some Zero 185gr JHP from this website and have been very happy with the performance
June 14, 2005, 04:29 PM
How come nobody else can sell cast lead bullets for less than about $50 or $60?
both are less expensive, make excellent, consistent hardcast bullets, Thompson hi temp lube and ship USPS Priority which means $7.70 for 2000 230 gr + $1.30 insurance...Keads is often backlogged but they will come eventually, MasterCast is pretty quick w shipping.
Hard to beat
If buying a lot of Rainiers, consider Cabelas - max S/H is $13.95 regardless of weight...and they seem to ship from the nearest store. I got 4000 230gr 2 weeks ago for $13.95 shipping and they arrived in 4 days.
June 14, 2005, 07:06 PM
How much does Wolf cost per 1,000 rounds?
June 15, 2005, 09:35 AM
Think it depends. For years the 200gr LSWC was the choice of many people for practice with the .45 where I live. They're cheaper than jacketed bullets and they do cut nice clean holes in paper. I use a lot of them but to tell the truth it's hard to beat plain old 230gr LRN for trouble free reloading and function. There's a lot of places to order them on the internet if they're not available where you live and personally I don't buy the most expensive as long as they're fairly good quality .
June 15, 2005, 10:18 AM
Okay - Ammoman has Wolf for $170/1,000.
Figure you can reload .45 ammo for what...
That leaves $80. Figure it's going to take two-four hours (figure in some cleaning-messwith time) if you've got a Dillon 550 press.
That's between $20 and $40 and hour.
Now I save my pistol handloading for stuff that's more interesting than "blasting" or practice ammo...
June 15, 2005, 12:13 PM
How loud are the primer-only plastic rounds?
Maybe a bit louder than a cap gun.
June 15, 2005, 05:09 PM
Check out precisionbullets.com
They have lead bullets that are coated with a plastic-LIKE coating that prevents barrel fouling and are attractively priced. I have used their 230gr in my Sig P220 and was really pleased.
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