Ruger 10/22 LR Questions


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Avenger29
June 15, 2005, 09:55 PM
Well, I am about to buy the Ruger 10/22 SS model at Wally World with the 22-inch(I think) barrel. I thought all Ruger rifles came with rings and mount from the factory for a scope. Does the rifle come with these or not? The salesperson could not answer my question and all he could do was show me the rifle, which was drilled and tapped for a base. Also, is the BSA 4x32 rimfire scope a good buy for an entry-level scope? They have it at Walmart for $24. Also, why does the blued model have a shorter barrel? I would perfer having the blued rifle with a longer barrel (no, I am not going to get a heavy barrel for this rifle)
Please help...

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hksw
June 15, 2005, 10:49 PM
Base, yes. Rings, no.

BSAs are incredibly poor, IMO, but they will do the job if you need something cheap and don't move the reticles too often.

Avenger29
June 15, 2005, 10:51 PM
Well, what about a good scope for less than $60?

wally
June 15, 2005, 10:57 PM
If you don't think a $60 BSA scope is adaquate for a 10/22 take a look at this:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=131138

--wally.

texasguy
June 15, 2005, 11:07 PM
sorry, but the BSA rimfire scopes are at the bottom of the line as far as scopes go.

wally- you have a fairly decent bsa. no leupold, but it works. better than the rimfire.

basically, my rule of thumb for MOST scopes, is dont buy one that comes in the plastic crap, or doesnt have to be taken out of a glass case for you to look at. Do yourself a favor and buy a better scope.
-tex

Blue Line
June 15, 2005, 11:08 PM
I would opt for a rifle scope instead of the 22 scope you mentioned. First itís going to be sturdier, the aperture is going to be larger, and it will hold up better in the long run. I remember back as a kid with those rim fire scopes on a 22, then I put a regular rifle scope on there and it really opened my eyes! Worlds of difference!

As far as BSA quality, I have Bushnell, Leupold, Tasco, and BSA. I like them all within certain parameters. It will depend on what you going to do with the scope and what your budget is. If youíre putting it on a bench rest rifle - well you get what you pay for, if you going to go out and hunt chucks and crows - well I think it would do fine.

Avenger29
June 15, 2005, 11:11 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about getting a regular rifle scope. Is Bushnell good? This scope is comeing from Walmart, and I am NOT paying for a Leupold. I don't want to spend more than $300 on this package, and the rifle costs $215 before taxes.

mattw
June 16, 2005, 12:22 AM
the 10/22 comes in a "carbine" version and a "rifle" version.. the carbine version has the shorter barrel and you can get the 22 inch bbl. version blued, just ask them to order it for you (ask a manager, the sales associates are usually idiots).

I think you should checkout the BSA Red Dot sight they sell at wal-mart. Its a red-dot sight for $29 and i have one on my 10/22. It is way more fun than a high powered scope.

Sharps Shooter
June 16, 2005, 02:07 AM
This is more of a question than a suggestion, but does anyone have experiance with Cabela's "Pine Ridge" line of scopes? My catalog list a couple of rifle as well as rimfire models that are within Avengers price range. I've never had one of Cabela's "Pine Ridge" models myself, but I like their "Alaskan Guide" line real well.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
June 16, 2005, 04:26 AM
The blued rifle version of the 10/22 has a 20in barrel.

The stainless 22in barrelled version is a Wally World special only.

I put the Wal-mart BSA on my full camo 10/22 carbine---and considering the $29 price tag it is surprisingly good----looks to be made by the same folks that make the Tasco Red Dot sights.

The newer 10/22's come with dual use Weaver/tip off base----use the Weaver function. The older 10/22 bases were tip-off only.

The BSA dot sight mounts right on the base without needing to go buy separate rings.

I usually put Zeiss scopes on my centerfires---but the BSA dot sight makes a lot of sence for the limited range .22LR---even if it craps out after the warranty----you're not really out all that much---considering you only paid $29 for it.

Yes---I own the Wally World special 10/22 Rifle too----I mounted a Burris 3x9x40 Fullfield II on it with Leupold QRW rings---and it is a very nice combo-------but quite a bit more $$$$ than you're looking to spend.

Crosshair
June 16, 2005, 05:08 AM
Isn't there no point to a 22 inch barrel on a 22lr since the powder was spent at least 4 inches ago?

mattw
June 16, 2005, 05:24 AM
I don't think its about the powder burning out, it probably has something to do with velocity and bullet stabilization.

The BSA Red-Dot is a peice of junk though, i would never trust it with my life or put it on anything other than a .22. I have no doubts that it would beat itself apart on anything with any measure of recoil. The only problem i've had with mine is that it will shut itself off and turn back on for no reason at all. The rheostat knob (spelling?) was not loose and they were fresh batteries.

nipprdog
June 16, 2005, 08:11 AM
Yeah, I was thinking about getting a regular rifle scope. Is Bushnell good? This scope is comeing from Walmart, and I am NOT paying for a Leupold. I don't want to spend more than $300 on this package, and the rifle costs $215 before taxes.

heres your $85 scope.

215+85=300.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2692582&cat=170083&type=1&dept=4125&path=0%3A4125%3A4155%3A112165

Onmilo
June 16, 2005, 10:40 AM
If you just gotta buy a made in China scope, look for someone who carries "Famous Maker" brand.
Same telescopes as the brand name,i.e. Simmons, Bushnell.
Same quality, actually a bit better in most cases and less money spent.

http://www.cdnninvestments.com is a good place to start looking.

I agree that a full size, one inch tube model scope is the way to go.
Forget looking at the .22/airgun 7/8" scopes, the quality, repeatability, and durability just aren't there.

Avenger29
June 16, 2005, 07:02 PM
Sorry, I am not going to order the 20-inch blued barrel. I will just take the 22 inch SS- it looks good anyway. And yes, I like the long barrel for velocity and accuracy. Yeah, I know the airgun/.22 scopes are crap- had a $6 Tasco, not worth a penney. Never could get it zeroed on my Crosman 760. Thanks guys. I think I am going to get that Simmons scope. Going to go get it tomorrow.

Yeah, I know the salespeople are idiots. Took 3 1/2 hours to buy a shotgun Christmas '99.

flyerI
June 16, 2005, 10:56 PM
I put THIS SCOPE (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=822203) on my 10/22 and may put it on the WW special you are looking at. I bought one a couple of weeks ago and I like it. Good luck. I only spent 30 min buying mine but my CCW saved some time I'm sure.

buttrap
June 17, 2005, 12:34 AM
I would think a 22 inch tube would reduce the velocity unless you are using hyper speed stuff.

Kramer Krazy
June 17, 2005, 12:12 PM
That 10/22 Sporter Deluxe with longer SS barrel *WAS* a Wally World special. My father saw an ad in a magazine recntly about it being "new" for 2005. Last year, it wasn't listed on Ruger's website in the SS version, but I picked one up for the wife at Walmart. It's a good little gun. I love the Sporter stock on it. As for a scope, check out some of the Natchez (www.natchezss.com) close-outs. I picked up a Simmons 6-24x50mm for only $69 a while back for my 223 bolt-action.

Avenger29
June 17, 2005, 10:00 PM
Well, I got the 10/22 SS today at wally world along with 2 extra mags, a 500 count box of Win. .22LR XPERT HP 36 Grain Ammo, A Tasco .22 Scope 4x32, and a sling (sling and scope purchased at Hunter's Headquarters, and they even installed the mount and scope and boresighted it for free. It looks great and shoots great. I love it! Only had a few Failure to Feed and Extract (I guess it doesn't like the ammo) and I am still breaking it in. Any ammo suggestions (with good prices). Will post squirrel kill tallies soon.

hksw
June 17, 2005, 11:03 PM
All my 10/22s eat Fed Lightning witout any problems. Rem Thunderbolts suck on the other hand.

Avenger29
June 18, 2005, 08:42 PM
Okay, I found a box of 50 Fed Lightinings that I will try. I refuse to use any Remington ammo, especially after I tryed some of their ammo that I hated in my Win. 69.

Dave Markowitz
June 18, 2005, 09:28 PM
Check out this factory refurbished Nikon ProStaff 4x32mm rimfire scope for $69.95 from Natchez Shooters Supply:

http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=NK&prodID=NK6305BR&CFID=226011&CFTOKEN=90929315

New ones go for $99. The difference between one of these and a POS BSA is immediately noticeable. I put one on my Savage Mark II and the optics are quite nice.

Also, Weaver makes a good 4x28mm rimfire scope which goes for about $99.

timuchin
June 18, 2005, 09:56 PM
God I love this. Runs about a grand without the 10/22 parts though.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25630&stc=1

Eightball
June 18, 2005, 10:27 PM
Whatever that thing is, whoever makes it---I now officially want one. I know it's a ripoff of the old Walther rifle, but man would that be sweet at the range :D

hksw
June 19, 2005, 12:14 PM
Ironwood (http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/2aprod/11022prod.html)

Only factory 10 round mags can be used (which isn't a problem with me). Biggest concern I have about the design is the distance between the trigger and sear. IMO, the longer the distance, the less precise. The ad says the trigger kit (comes with the stock) gets the trigger weight down to 2-2Ĺ lb and is crisp but I'm not too confident about that.

Avenger29
June 19, 2005, 04:44 PM
flyerI: Yeah, that is the one I brought...I hope it does well. I think I overpayed though buying it local, but I did get it installed and boresighted..oh, well.

Gotta take one of the mags back cause it was the one causing feeding problems- jammed every other round :cuss:

Gonna try more ammo types.

CB900F
June 21, 2005, 01:07 AM
Avenger;

I'd strongly suggest doing a lot of ammo testing. Consecutive S/N'd guns will like different ammo, .22's are notoriously picky. Try not only several different manufacturer's but many of the choices offered by that maker. For instance, Federal offers about 30 different .22 rimfire options. Some, such as shorts, CB caps, etc. are totally out of your ballpark, but that still leaves many to try just from Federal. As for all the rest, I wouldn't bother with the ultra-high dollar stuff, but anything under $20.00 a brick should be considered from just about any maker. I've had good luck with Winchester Powerpoints in several of my guns.

If you do this, you'll be surprised at the performance differences in your gun between the various kinds of .22 longrifle ammo available.

Scopes are a whole different subject, don't get me started.

900F

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