Gun Range Bans Department Of Justice In Response To Legislative Proposals


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Desertdog
June 17, 2005, 03:01 AM
Contact: Chuck Michel, CRPA Media Spokesman (562) 216-4444


GUN RANGE BANS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FROM USING FACILITIES IN RESPONSE TO
LOCKYER’S LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS
http://www.crpa.org/showpages.asp?pid=1167

Range’s Move Reflects a Growing Trend In The Industry

Reflecting the latest response to ill conceived legislative proposals from within the gun industry, a Sacramento shooting range banned the use of its shooting facilities by employees of the California Department of Justice because Attorney General Lockyer has misrepresented the truth in sponsoring two bills in the State legislature that the club, and other civil rights groups including CRPA, opposes.

Club President Thomas Hause wrote to Lockyer that the organization "is concerned that your staff will further your efforts regarding AB 352 and SB 357 while using our facility." The Folsom club has roughly 1,000 members and its range sits on more than 880 acres. A copy of the letter is posted at:
http://www.sacvalley.org/SacVal/Lttr_to_DOJ.html

On bill, (AB 352) by Assemblyman Koretz (who has previously stated he advocates banning civilian handgun possession) would require handguns to include a device that stamps a specific number on cartridge cases that are fired by that handgun. The other bill (SB 357), authored by Lockyer and carried by Senator Dunn (D- Santa Ana) would require that ammunition manufacturers mark bullets with a serial number for potential tracking. The state Assembly passed AB 352. The same day the state senate passed SB 357. A day later, the State Senate passed SB 357. AB 352 is now in the State Senate and SB 357 is now in the Assembly.

Both bills are impractical and constitute an enormous invasion of privacy - effectively creating a gun owner database in a state where registration has already lead to confiscation. The bills have the support of the California DOJ, but no other California law enforcement organizations support the measures.

The club's stand has received support from other gun owners throughout the state. It follows a similar stand taken by Ronnie Barret, owner of Barrett Firearms, over proposals to ban .50 caliber single shot bolt action rifles. In 2003 Barrett refused to do further business with the LAPD because of misrepresentations made by the Department while advocating for a ban on the rifles. A copy of the Barrett letter to the LAPD is posted at: http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/la50banbarrett.shtml

Chuck Michel, attorney for the CRPA said the clubs’ move reflects an increasing trend. “As gun bans become more and more extreme, ever larger segments of the firearms industry are responding by cutting off the supply to government agencies. We all support rank and file law enforcement, but some of their leaders are out of control. In fact,” Michel added, “the major ammunition manufactures are warning that if SB 357 is passed, they will abandon the California market.”

An industry representative confirmed that: "We continue to be strongly opposed to the legislation because it amounts to a de facto ammunition ban in California," said Lawrence G. Keane, general counsel for the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute. "Manufacturers cannot comply with requirements of the bill unless new factories are built. And they simply don't have the ability to build new factories for California, so they will have to abandon the market."

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Pilgrim
June 17, 2005, 10:03 AM
Chuck Michel, attorney for the CRPA said the clubs’ move reflects an increasing trend. “As gun bans become more and more extreme, ever larger segments of the firearms industry are responding by cutting off the supply to government agencies. We all support rank and file law enforcement, but some of their leaders are out of control. In fact,” Michel added, “the major ammunition manufactures are warning that if SB 357 is passed, they will abandon the California market.”

An industry representative confirmed that: "We continue to be strongly opposed to the legislation because it amounts to a de facto ammunition ban in California," said Lawrence G. Keane, general counsel for the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute. "Manufacturers cannot comply with requirements of the bill unless new factories are built. And they simply don't have the ability to build new factories for California, so they will have to abandon the market."

I sincerely hope this is true and not a bluff.

Pilgrim

El Tejon
June 17, 2005, 10:05 AM
Maybe the gun companies will get smart, come together and stop selling to the police. Let them defend the politicians with sticks and rocks!

Yanus
June 17, 2005, 12:02 PM
The DOJ won't have to worry about a source for PC ammo. I'm sure NORINCO, completely owned by the PRA, will be more than happy to supply their "comrades" with ammo......... :rolleyes:

Yanus

duckslayer
June 17, 2005, 04:32 PM
I'm going to go buy some factory ammo just to help them out! If they abandon the California market completely, they have to somehow not sell to the LE agencies in order for their boycott to work. If the LEA's just order ammo (not marked as I am sure they will be exempt anyway:() from a distributer the plan won't work. Perhaps the ammo companies can strongarm the distributers into not selling to Cali LEAs, but I doubt it.

Besides, someone would care more about immediate money than principle and set up shop to sell there and then they would have a niche market and no competition.

woerm
June 17, 2005, 04:35 PM
I know that Norinco guns can't be imported now.

I don't recall if their ammo was covered by the same ban.

8-P

snicker snicker,

that would be soooo ironic.

r

well that would go w/ kailifornica's usual level or moronic.
:neener:

Henry Bowman
June 17, 2005, 05:54 PM
After thay run out of ammo, let's see if Dillon refuses to sell them presses!

Don of Kalifornia
June 18, 2005, 10:56 AM
One part of SB 357, is that law enforcement is NOT EXEMPT from have ammo serialized. Soon if this passes..LEO may no get any ammo either.

Also all pistol bullets for reloading must have serial numbers too.

Crosshair
June 18, 2005, 10:08 PM
Can't wait until one of these idiot politicians gets their clock cleaned by somebody. Then wonder why their bodygaurds didn't do anything. :evil:

Standing Wolf
June 18, 2005, 10:48 PM
The bills have the support of the California DOJ, but no other California law enforcement organizations support the measures.

The People's Republic of California Department of so-called "Justice" is playing politics with tax dollars. That's one of the many reasons I left the P.R.C. in 2002 to return to the United States.

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