[ny_vin18]

what would u want to carry to defend urself and ur neighborhood. id wanna carry atleast 2 of the new 50 caliber 45s, some hand grenades, a LEO m4 with an m203 grenade launcher and a eotech scope. and a hell of alot of ammo. also id carry some anti personnel mines in my bag under my wheelchair along with 2 more pistols. for home id have a 50. caliber machine gun in every one of my windows, alone with a diffrent rifle at each door or each corner in the house. and id rig my lawn with land mines and anti personnel mines. i know it prolly would never happen but hey its kinda cool to imagine, so what would u guys and girls wanna carry with u. id maybe even build a 2 man armored dune buggy, with a SAW on top to patrol my neighborhood and take out the bad guys. lol the imagination i have huh.

[ZenMasterJG]

you wouldnt happen to be mall security, would you? :p

[only1asterisk]

What?? No 10mm?

David

[ny_vin18]

maybe 308 but whats so special about 10mm are u talking about a 10mm bullet isnt a 10mm bullet small, im not all that smart on ammo size so if im wrong sorry, u can correct me

[ZenMasterJG]

the 10mm could be one of the pistols 'neath the wheelchair, silly.
i'd opt for a pair of 1911s, though.
he did, however, forget the RPG.

[ny_vin18]

yea some 1911s would be sweet. i did say i would want the new 50 caliber 45 thats soon to be out. i think soon.

[only1asterisk]

im not all that smart

Me neither, but I don't going around making sure everyone knows.

David

[ny_vin18]

i ment when it comes to bullet sizes. iam smart just not when it comes to the size of some bullets. plz dont try and twist what i said around on me.

thank you

[Matthew748]

All that hardware sounds good, but I can't say that I know how to operate a .50 Caliber M2 Browning Machine gun. With my luck, I would set the headspace wrong while installing the barrel and ruin the gun and maim myself.

Assuming this is a serious post, I would want my M1A most of all because I can shoot it prone, kneeling, and offhand with good results.

[only1asterisk]

i ment when it comes to bullet sizes. iam smart just not when it comes to the size of some bullets. plz dont try and twist what i said around on me.

You're right, that was unkind of me. You just set it up so well, I couldn’t resist.

David

[ZenMasterJG]

i would want the new 50 caliber 45 thats soon to be out
now, maybe theres somthing i missed... but theres a new 50 caliber .45 coming out? i suppose that so as long as federal whips up some (probably very oddly shaped, considering they are, apparantly, two calibers in one) hydra-shoks for it, i guess i'd want one too. :rolleyes:

[Alex45ACP]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/6655321/sucks8.jpg

[Lone_Gunman]

ny_vin18,

Make sure you add duct tape and ceramic armor plates to your list.

[ZenMasterJG]

heheheh
i think this kid needs to formulate a plan B
;)

[Byron Quick]

My analysis of your 'plan'? An easier form of suicide would just be to shoot yourself. Then you wouldn't have to go to the trouble of lugging all that tactical mess around.

My plan in that situation would be to exfiltrate the town, notify the proper authorities, and observe the attack to retake it by Army units with air support. In a lawn chair. With a beer.

It doesn't really matter what equipment you have. Weapons are heavy. There's a limit to what you can carry for any distance. A reasonable load for a man precludes clearing a town of terrorists. So do the laws of probability.

You've got all this whoop-de-doo stuff. Who's watching your six? Your flanks. Where's your reserves? Maneuver elements? Artillery support? Communications? Air support? If you go up against a unit...even an irregular terrorist unit...the first rule is to bring a unit of your own. Just as the first rule of gunfighting is to bring a gun.

Question: OK, you've got the .50 BMG's in every window of your home. You're being attacked from the front and are laying down interdiction fire. Another squad then begins their attack from the rear of your house. Whose going to fire the .50's in every window back there while you're firing the one in the front?

[cracked butt]

A flamethrower would be the key weapon- especially if the AL queda terrorists alsohappened to be zombies. MMMmmmm roasted zombies.

[cracked butt]

Whose going to fire the .50's in every window back there while you're firing the one in the front?

That's easy, silly, you attach strings to the machine guns so that you can fire them when your back is turned. :D

[only1asterisk]

Cracked,

Don't forget the mirrors and periscopes! I like the flamethrower idea. Maybe a moat with kerosene and spikes too.

David

[BryanP]

You need to add a wheelbarrow and some trauma plates to your list. ;)




(And a grammar primer.)

[Stickjockey]

My plan in that situation would be to exfiltrate the town, notify the proper authorities, and observe the attack to retake it by Army units with air support. In a lawn chair. With a beer.

I'm with Byron on this one.

[boofus]

Airsoft, get your parents to buy you lots of airsoft. 'Cause that's all you're old enough to get judging from your grammar and spelling.

[CajunBass]

Actually, since I lived in Richmond most of my life, I still think of it as "home", so if some group or other, be they terrorists, or mutant zombie gummie bears from space, took over, I'd just wait and see if they could do a better job of running the place than city council. If they did, I'd move back and vote for them next time. ;)

[dev_null]

> observe the attack to retake it by Army units with air support. In a lawn chair. With a beer.

And if you tie enough helium balloons to the chair, you can help out! :evil:

[Mannlicher]

This is patently silly.

[chopinbloc]

i think he's talking about the .50gi 1911 from guncrafter industries. been out for a year or two. it's another one of those $2,500 + whiz bang custom jobs. gotta admit it's a cool concept, though.

oh, and i want tactical nukes and that rifle from aliens.

[TMM]

i'd want a kalisnikov or simaler with 40-round mags, Glock chambered in .45ACP, hicap mags. full body Class IV Kevlar with ceramic plates, my car armoured up with whatever's newest in bullet-deflecing materieal, with a remote-controlled roof-mounted .30/06 heavy machine gun.

then get the hell out of town.

~TMM

[dev_null]

Is a 50 caliber .45 larger or smaller than a 45 caliber .50?

[Tango Sierra]

Just give me a Tactical Nuclear Device and I'd be all set.

[RocketMan]

Too late. Several cities in Oregon have already been taken over by terrorists. The rub of the deal is, the voters elected them.

[hillbilly]

ny_vin18....

Dude, don't you know like anything?

Just go play Counterstrike or Ghost Recon or Doom 3 or Quake or Killzone, and just like see what ever killer cool ultra kick-ass mega-weapons are on the video game.

I mean, like after all, everybody knows that the video games are just like real life, and that even the Marines like train with, you know, video games......dude.....

hillbilly

[Barbara]

I'd get it set up. Even if insurgents never materialize, you'll never be bothered with Girl Scouts or door-to-door evangelists.

[Gewehr98]

if insurgents or al qaeda took over ur town.

Be kinda interesting, considering I live in base housing. :D

[Biker]

Not a concern in my town. The Mormons would run them out in a heartbeat. :evil:
Biker

[Preacherman]

Nor in my town... northern Louisiana redneck territory. Every house in my neighborhood (and I'm not exaggerating!) has a .30-30 or 12-gauge behind the door, and usually quite an arsenal elsewhere. If the guys round here heard that Al Qaeda had taken over, there would be a general whoop of "Moving targets! At last!", followed by a general rush to the scene of the action. Should be fun while it lasts... :D

[TechBrute]

if thay tuk owver my toun id rite and spel like this two confuz them when they wur confuzd id teech my too yeer old how two werk the fiffy caliber mashing gun and sheed shoot them awl en thee hed frum won mile away then id drive my abrahams tank over there ded bodees!!!

JIHAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TechBrute]

Nor in my town... northern Louisiana redneck territory. Every house in my neighborhood (and I'm not exaggerating!) has a .30-30 or 12-gauge behind the door, and usually quite an arsenal elsewhere. If the guys round here heard that Al Qaeda had taken over, there would be a general whoop of "Moving targets! At last!", followed by a general rush to the scene of the action. Should be fun while it lasts... You live around here? :D

LOL... I think the ARFCOM crew would be beside themselves with excitement. Finally, a chance to drink beer and shoot full auto at moving targets!

[Baba Louie]

ny_vin18
Ah yout'ful exuberance.
The old "What If" scenario, is it?
Pardon the guys giving ya some serious ribbing, but we like to have some fun now and then, and some posts are just tailor made for such things...

Just remember one word... "WOLVERINES!" (if memory serves me... maybe it was BADGERS) :D

The correct answer (of course) is the venerable John Wayne type lever-action Winchester 94 (or 92) with 150 grain soft points dipped in bacon grease. Al-Q guys just hate it when they get shot with those.
Of course you'll have to make your own suppressor using a 2-litre soda bottle w/ steel wool pads glued to the inside, the whole thing being duct taped to the barrel and you'll need some form of night vision scope.
For back up gun I suggest the small .50 AE Desert Eagle (as it's an Isreali made product, Al-Q guys really REALLY hate being shot with one of those... don't ask me how I know... I think it's still classified Double Top Secret Restriction on a Need To Know basis... and you just don't have the NTK at this point... maybe later)

Vehicle wise, I think a high speed off-road armoured wheelchair with a couple of LAW's mounted and some form of GE mini-gun like they used to try and kill that Predator dude would be Ulta-chic, neh? What do you think ny_vin18? Or should I mount a 25mm chain gun? Decisions, decisions.

And yes, it's quite the imagination you have. Do you harbor hidden hostilities against the "shift" key for some reason?

Thanks for making me think outside the box for a few minutes of remembering youthful zeal. Happy Fathers Day.

[TechBrute]

Yeah, M2s are old-school. GE Miniguns are where it's at!

[wolf]

this sounds like a job for...THE F-16 :p

wolf

[Barbara]

Do you harbor hidden hostilities against the "shift" key for some reason?

Hehehe..

The Shift key is a tool of the infidel!

[bogie]

Oh, ferchrissake.

If it gets so a few hundred terrorists can take control of a town of 6,000+ folks who are into deer hunting, I'll just move to California.

And move in with Paris Hilton.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the collective IQ has been plummeting around here lately?

[GEM]

Hey, that's my Class 4 Zombie attack setup!

Anybody read that Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks, Mel's kid. The gun stuff is technically shakey but it is funny.

I would like to see terrorists 'take over' a Texas town. Remember when Charles Whitman took over the TX tower and was taken under fire by regular folks?

Now, Zombies are a different story.

Another point - so I'm cranky - keep the text messaging spelling for your friends on your cell phone or chat rooms. Learn how to spell. Such prose contributes to the fall of civilization. :fire:

[IZinterrogator]

this sounds like a job for...THE F-16 Nah, ATACMS.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/97atacms.jpg
You might want to park your car in the garage that day, though... :what:
Each missile dispenses a cargo of approximately 950 antipersonnel and antimateriel (APAM) M74 grenades over the target area. Warhead event is initiated by an electronic time fuze (M219A2) that is set in the same manner as the M445 electronic time fuze of the M26 rocket. The fuze detonates shaped charges mounted to the skin and bulkheads. This in turn severs the skin. By means of centrifugal force and airstream currents, the M74 grenades are distributed over the target area. Arming of the M74 grenades is accomplished by the spin action which is induced on the individual grenade. The M74 grenade is filled with composition B explosive filler and is covered by a steel shell. Upon impact and detonation each grenade breaks up into a large number of high-velocity steel fragments that are effective against targets such as truck tires, missile rounds, thin-skinned vehicles, and radar antennas. This submunition is not effective against armored vehicles. The M74 grenade also contains incendiary material and has an antipersonnel radius of 15 m.

[Nightfall]

This thread is like a bad train wreck... it's horrible, and I should look away, but I just... can't... :uhoh:

[mics357]

me thinkst our boy watches too many action movies, the real world is not a big arnold flick, where every weapon has endless ammo and all the weapons you'll ever need are laying on the street. my advise is find one rifle, one shotty and one pistol then see if you can hit something with them. by the way do you have a cdl so you can drive the cabover you'll need to haul the tandem trailer for all that gear. i hate what-if i have a hard enough time with what is.

[MechAg94]

I'll second that. Get one rifle and become very proficient with it. Find one pistol and learn how to handle it. Doesn't matter what it is, just learn to use them well. That will serve you better than all the ordnanace in the world that you can't carry anyway.

The other problem I have with all that weaponry in one place like that is that one good mortar team would blow you hell very quickly. But what do I know. I am no expert.

[WayneConrad]

I'd want friends and neighbors.

Better 10 neighbors with 22 rifles than me alone with the coolest black gear money can buy.

[RevDisk]

what would u want to carry to defend urself and ur neighborhood. id wanna carry atleast 2 of the new 50 caliber 45s, some hand grenades, a LEO m4 with an m203 grenade launcher and a eotech scope. and a hell of alot of ammo. also id carry some anti personnel mines in my bag under my wheelchair along with 2 more pistols. for home id have a 50. caliber machine gun in every one of my windows, alone with a diffrent rifle at each door or each corner in the house. and id rig my lawn with land mines and anti personnel mines. i know it prolly would never happen but hey its kinda cool to imagine, so what would u guys and girls wanna carry with u. id maybe even build a 2 man armored dune buggy, with a SAW on top to patrol my neighborhood and take out the bad guys. lol the imagination i have huh.

Those .50 GI 1911's are rather expensive, and are only marginally more 'destructive' than plain .45 ACP. I'd rather take that extra money and invest in .45 ball ammo.

Each grenade, antipersonnel mine and grenade launcher would require a $200 destructive device tax stamp. Plus the explosives need to be stored in inspected and licensed storage containers. I had a class on moving/storing HAZMAT material, it's a freakin headache and explosives are often treated worse than nasty chemicals. If you had that kind of cash, why not just buy an island somewhere and a 12 guage shotgun? It'd provide you much better security.


Plus, for insurgency warfare to exist, the population must be supporting them to some degree. Most folks here in the USA would be calling the cops if some wackos with RPG's were walking down the street, instead of telling the wackos with RPG's where the cops were staying.

There is a vast difference between an insurgency and terrorism. They may share a lot of the same tactics, but very different goals and motivation. Insurgency is just a number of the locals wanting an occupying force/government to leave their area. Terrorism is when bad guys come to your area.


To answer your question, I'd like a case of beer, a shovel, a bunch of sandbags and a good lawnchair. Maybe a cell phone to call the cops. Oh yea, and a .22 rifle to plink with when I get bored.

[Eightball]

If this were a real scenario (odds are the invaders would be dead before hitting mainland KY, due to other THR members ;) ), I would take out my .308 Saiga and my SKS. Use one to peg them from a distance, the other for while I am closing in on the corpses. This isn't mall-ninja-ish--I would then steal the weapons of the enemy, and hide in a hole, hoping not to die before I could trumpet my newly acquired full-autos :D . That's realism.

To add to the "i'm going to make my house into an arsenal worthy of cheesy action movies from now until doomsday"--I'd just steal an A-10 warthog, deck it with ammo, and lob a few handheld nuclear grenades :rolleyes: . Flame on.

[4v50 Gary]

AIED (automobile improvised explosive device). Give them a taste of their own medicine. Remote control that sucker so I can build AIED #2. :evil:

[R.H. Lee]

heh. In my town, any 'takeover' wouldn't last too long. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. :evil:

[Hawkmoon]

ny_vin18 --

I'd like to offer a suggestion to you, since I notice that you are new to The High Road.

You will find that there are some very intelligent people on here. Some are also very busy. They don't have time for games, or digging out their secret decoder rings. There are no bandwidth restrictions here. You are not limited to messages of 64 or 256 characters. Therefore, there is no need or reason to resort to TXT MSG mode when good old English will suffice, and make your posts more easily deciphered by those of us who may want to read them.

Speaking only for myself, when I encounter a TXT MSG in the middle of a discussion forum, I assume the writer is an idiot and I don't bother to read or respond. Who but an idiot would write in hieroglyphics when there isn't any reason to do so, and doing so only makes the message more difficult to comprehend?

[Hawkmoon]

now, maybe theres somthing i missed... but theres a new 50 caliber .45 coming out? i suppose that so as long as federal whips up some (probably very oddly shaped, considering they are, apparantly, two calibers in one) hydra-shoks for it, i guess i'd want one too.
I had to bite my tongue on that one, too. I think he's referring to the Guncrafter Industries .50 1911 model. Mate, it's a .50 cal 1911 pistol, but not all 1911s are .45s. The 1911 style pistol is available in .380 ACP, 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 10mm, and now thanks to Guncrafters it is also available in .50. (Oh, yeah, 1911s are also available from Kimber in .17 and .22 calibers)

And it is not "coming soon," it is available now. They are hard at work, and selling them as fast as they can make them. It's a very sweet pistol.

[Navy joe]

Well, sucks to be you in the wheelchair. Al Queso is obviously going to grab you since you will be slow to get away(Damn ADA non-compliant stairways!) and use you in their latest Death to AmericaTM video. So, all you need is about 20 lbs. of C-4 hidden in the wheelchair. When all those poor misunderstood freedom fighters gather around for the big group photo and pronouncement of jihad you push the button. You'll get all of them. Again, sucks to be you, but we'll all hoist a beer in your honor on your day. :evil:

[Zach S]

I live in what I would call a liberal rich environment, some of the people in my area would probably give them a place to stay the night, not to mention feed them as well...

But that's not me. I'd have one government model, one G17, and my AR15. With lotsa magazines for each...

I just got a 90 F150 4x4, I think I may have to start planning on how to turn it into a UAV. A ladder rack would come in handy for some of the things I have in mind...

[Justin]

Yeah, I think this one's gone far enough.