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dolfan20
June 19, 2005, 08:07 PM
These guys really look like they are having fun!

www.beastbullet.com

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Cesiumsponge
June 19, 2005, 08:32 PM
The guy in the banner on the upper left has both fingers inside the trigger guard on the triggers; that would be a bad first impression :scrutiny:

gbelleh
June 19, 2005, 09:38 PM
Some scary gun handling on some of those videos. :scrutiny: :eek:

dolfan20
June 19, 2005, 10:13 PM
you guys seem pretty uptight. those guys seem like they are just having fun. and I sure if anyone got hurt they wouldn't have a website. you wanna see scary handling of guns, watch any footage of soldiers in war and watch them sweep each others heads with fully loaded rifles.

RevDisk
June 19, 2005, 10:23 PM
you wanna see scary handling of guns, watch any footage of soldiers in war and watch them sweep each others heads with fully loaded rifles.

It happens, yes. Then again, said soldiers tend to be in a hurry and need to quickly be able to shoot bad guys. This is typically not a problem at the average American range.

There is a big, big difference between combat weapons handling and civvie/LEO type weapons handling. If you can't understand the difference... Heh.


Sorry, I agree with the other posters. Not very interesting, and poor weapons handling.

nico
June 19, 2005, 10:44 PM
Rapid fire indiscriminately into the air. . . Brilliant! :rolleyes:


dolfan, out of curiosity, are you affiliated with the owners of that site?

Cesiumsponge
June 19, 2005, 10:45 PM
Yeah we're uptight because we want to follow important, life preserving guidelines that minimize accidental and negligent discharge that can result in maiming or killing another human being or yourself.

Guns aren't toys.

You can get enjoyment out of them, but it is a tool first and foremost. Automobiles are used primarily to transport materials and people from point A to point B. You can bring it to the track on weekends for some racing or enter it in an autoshow, collect it for value, or customize it to your heart's content. Firearms are a tool first and foremost. You can shoot it at a gun range, at gun matches, customize it and collect them too. However when you start becoming reckless in either of these hobbies, you can get yourself hurt or killed very quickly.

Not following the "golden four" rules (and some sources refine even more rules, I have 10 listed in my Budweiser Sportsman's Guide to Firearms Safety and Hunter Ethics :neener: ) of firearms safety is negligent and has, and will injure or kill other people or yourself in the process. This in turn makes ALL gun owners appear as halfwit lowbrow morons by the news media and further fuels an already large hatred towards firearms and those that own them.

People race their cars down busy highways and freeways because its fun for them. Yet it jeopardizes the lives of others, not only themselves. There are thousands of street racing videos and websites. Using your line of logic, if they didn't hurt anyone before, they wouldn't have a website. Oh, but to the contrary; street racing has hurt or killed the participants as well as innocent bystanders and there are endless websites and videos of such activity. Anyone can put up homemade videos on the internet. The street racing scene makes people who hotrod their cars in general seem like dangerous Fast And The Furious wannabes.

Promotion of unsafe firearms handling is along the lines of promoting street racing. Maybe the videos were recorded in a closed, controlled environment that was justified safe by their staff but the videos at face value show a lax of gun safety (shooting while looking away at the target, fingers inside the trigger guard, etc). If people were sticking their heads in microwaves or pounding nails up their nose...only harming themselves, then let Darwin take over. In this case, they aren't. Someone is going to get the bright idea that this is the norm and try it. Someone will get hurt and it will turn into a big stink.

nico
June 19, 2005, 11:11 PM
perfect analogy! As someone who's involved in legitimate motorsports, streetracing annoys me as much as the people on websites like those. It doesn't help that the media refers to street racing as "drag racing" or just "racing" so often. They might as well refer to drive bys as "target shooting."

Waffen
June 20, 2005, 12:43 AM
Oh my god. That was just pure stupidity.

In every video I counted numerious saftey infractions. (Shooting into the air mutiple times, swinging gun with finger in trigger guard, shooting while looking away from a target, shooting directly into water, not clearing gun after firing. Not ensuring rounds are empty from the gun after firing)

If I lived anywere near the property thoes people would have a very very big problem on their hands the next time they picked up a gun on that place.

They give a very bad name to shooters, and espicially people who enjoy AR's and AK's.

That and what fun is it to just pull a trigger and waste ammo on nothing. In some of these video's they are not even shooting at anything. Just wasting ammo as fast as they can.


you guys seem pretty uptight. those guys seem like they are just having fun. and I sure if anyone got hurt they wouldn't have a website.

Uptight about that? What are you talking about? They may be having fun but at the risk of others lives. Launching bullets into the next county and you are worried about us being uptight?

I could have tons of fun setting up a shooting gallery in my appartment complex parking lot, and granted I could probably do it to where nobody got hurt, but that is not to say it is not very dangerious.


A bunch of soldier wannabes, and mall ninjas IMO. :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :banghead: :cuss: and for good measure :barf:

mics357
June 20, 2005, 01:08 AM
sorry dude you'll find no sympathy here it's yahoo's like your buddies that make the anti gun lobby just drool :banghead: that one web site can be used to represent the average responsible gun owner and give them another reason to get in my arse. i would encourage them to close site, buy a few books on proper weapon handling and try again when they learn :fire:

Waffen
June 20, 2005, 01:11 AM
I love the disclaimer on the website too:

We are safe and well trained gun enthusiasts.

And my name is John M. Browning. :fire:


AHH the more I read of this site the angrier I get. These punks need to seriously re-evaluate their "saftey methods". If you can even call them that.

If they are reading this, I beg of you, please do not start a TV show. No good will come of it to you or other gun owners.

odysseus
June 20, 2005, 02:18 AM
Did anyone here catch a link to the art website one of the authors of the site runs... oh boy. Let's hope the Brady types don't link it up with this... :rolleyes:

fistful
June 20, 2005, 02:28 AM
Maybe you moderators should consider removing the link from this thread?

Edit: Just looked at more of the website. What a humongous amount of nonsense. It is not even good website and they don't even now the M16 is a crappy wepeon that nobody likes since the AK 57 beat the tar of it in Vietman. My favorite part is how the describes the minutes-men as regular joe's who grabbed up there hunting guns to kick out the English so we cood have our own county these days.

Rock on Beasty Bullet!

Waffen
June 20, 2005, 02:51 AM
Check out this great thread on their forum :

Edited at posters request.

Looks like a great bunch of guys.

fistful
June 20, 2005, 03:08 AM
Yes, very "classly." Please let us not take this thread into those waters.

REMOVE ALL LINKS TO THESE CHUCKLEHEADS AND ERASE ANY MENTION OF THEIR SITE'S NAME, please.

Werewolf
June 20, 2005, 12:12 PM
THR... I'd have never believed there were so many gun snobs here.

Who'd a thunk it...

The world's not gonna end and the anti's aren't gonna win because three brothers put up a gun based web site that offends the sensibilities of a bunch of range NAZI's.

YOU know what's nice about the internet?

You actually have to actively do something to visit a web site. Don't like the site? Fine. Don't go there.

Waffen
June 20, 2005, 12:22 PM
Yeah we are just a bunch of range Nazis.

You are correct, saftey is of minor concern when shooting. "As long as you're having fun" thats my motto. "Who cares where the bullets land" "I don't know whats behind thoes trees" "I'll just shoot while looking away from where I am firing" are all common terms used by safe gun owners. :barf:

If a cop tickets you for driving wrecklessly do you consider him a "car snob"? You stop somone from plugging a paper clip into an electrical outlit are you considered an "saftey snob"? You can't deny this is basically a trainwreck waiting to happen. These people may have knowlage of guns, but they lack respect for them.

Does this mean you condone firing a centerfire rifle cartrige directly into the air with no backstop?

Also, the link was posted as a cool gun site, nothing more nothing less. How are we suppose to know we will approve of the content prior to visiting? When somone posts this in a gun forum they should expect the site to be judged by it's viewing content.

Justin
June 20, 2005, 12:38 PM
It's a truism that any guy who buys a gun thinks he's Rambo.

It's also a truism that any guy who buys a digital camcorder and has a pirated copy of Adobe Premiere thinks he's Martin Scorsese.

I'm thoroughly unimpressed.

odysseus
June 20, 2005, 01:30 PM
It's also a truism that any guy who buys a digital camcorder and has a pirated copy of Adobe Premiere thinks he's Martin Scorsese

Lol... hell even some big studios aren't any better.

RTFM
June 20, 2005, 01:48 PM
Here is a cool gun website

NOT!!!!!

:what:

Where ever those knuckleheads are, I DON'T WANT TO BE.

Very scary stuff man, thanks for the warning you meant it to be.

lysander
June 20, 2005, 03:14 PM
Wow. :banghead: Well color me a gun snob...cause these guys are poster children for unsafe practices. Firearms ownership and use requires a certain level of responsible behavior...and this ain't it kids. Just what we need, a generation of gunowners reared on MTV's Jackass. Guys like this keep me away from public ranges.... :cuss:

fistful
June 20, 2005, 08:52 PM
If a cop tickets you for driving Wrecklessly do you consider him a "car snob"? You stop somone from plugging a paper clip into an electrical outlit are you considered an "saftey snob"? You can't deny this is basically a trainwreck waiting to happen. These people may have knowlage of guns, but they lack respect for them.They have nolidge of guns like you have a spell-checker.

gbelleh
June 20, 2005, 09:12 PM
Edit: Just looked at more of the website. What a humongous amount of nonsense. It is not even good website and they don't even now the M16 is a crappy wepeon that nobody likes since the AK 57 beat the tar of it in Vietman. My favorite part is how the describes the minutes-men as regular joe's who grabbed up there hunting guns to kick out the English so we cood have our own county these days.

They have nolidge of guns like you have a spell-checker


Sorry fistful... I couldn't resist. :evil:

Waffen
June 20, 2005, 09:24 PM
They have nolidge of guns like you have a spell-checker.

Yeah thanks man, I remove a link at you're request and you still bash me. Really appreciate that one. :scrutiny:


Nice spelling of "nolidge" yourself. I always thought it had a "k, and a "w". Perhaps what I really need is a lesson from a literary scholar such as you.

Playing grammar Nazi can work both ways huh?

fistful
June 21, 2005, 12:15 AM
Come on, Waffen, you were asking for it!

I'm still don't know if you made honest mistakes, or if you were lampooning the writing on the [censored] site - as I was. Also, knowledge contains an e, not an i.

In my earlier post, I was actually asking the moderator to remove all links and the name of the site.


gbelleh,

You missed about half of my "mistakes," but good effort.

JMag
June 21, 2005, 12:53 AM
Hmm, I really enjoyed viewing the clowns' Colt "Commando" 1911... :confused:

Cesiumsponge
June 21, 2005, 02:45 AM
I think this thread has served it's purpose. *listens for the thread closing bell*

gbelleh
June 21, 2005, 07:51 AM
This thread was fun, but nothing good can come of it! :neener:

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