Want to buy O/U, which??


December 31, 2002, 09:21 PM
New to board, looks good...
Shopping for a good Over/Under 20 ga....
Have looked at the Ruger Red Label & just started looking at the Beretta O/U....
Want to spend $1,000 or less, New or used...
I do want interchangeable choke tubes...
never owned a O/U, please help out on WHY you recomend a certain one...
Many Thanks

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December 31, 2002, 09:32 PM
The Ruger is built like a tank and will generally cost less than a Beretta. The Beretta line is generally lighter and more refined than the Ruger line. Either will serve you well for a lifetime.

December 31, 2002, 09:46 PM
Agree with blades67
also Citori

Try before you buy, visit a club and shoot some various models.

It has to FIT you before you can hit with it...I'd make that my first consideration

December 31, 2002, 09:54 PM
Look at the Browning Citori's, the Lightning, White lightning and 525 Field will be close to your price, a tad higher though new. Look for used ones, I see them all the time in perfect NiB shape!

Marshall ;)

December 31, 2002, 10:50 PM
Thanks for the replys....
How is the factory service at Ruger, Beretta, Browning..??

December 31, 2002, 10:51 PM
Before you buy try to hold as many different guns as possible. Check the fit. If there's a shop near you that specializes in shotguns go there. Have them help you find what fits you best. Then buy the best fitting gun. Pay extra if you have to.

For shotguns fit is the most important thing. And it cost hundreds of dollars to make changes to the way a gun fits.

If nothing else try this little exercise.

Hold the gun low. Pick a space on the far wall to aim at. Mount the gun. See how you're looking down the rib. If the rib goes off to either side, or appears to be more than 3/16" tall, then it doesn't fit. Now try mounting the gun with your eyes closed. Open your eyes and look again. If you find you have to move your head (in any way) to get a good sighting plane it doesn't fit.

Good luck, and welcome to a world of finer shotguns. It gets more expensive from here on out.

December 31, 2002, 11:19 PM
Citori 3 bbl set.
Never had a need for it.
My Dr. 'loaned' me his for dunno 10 yrs, I used to shoot 2K rds a month , plus what he shot, gun is -dunno 20 yrs old.
I did replace the mid-bead on the 28 bore once, I bumped the gun rack too hard.

load shoot repeat

Will Beararms
December 31, 2002, 11:42 PM
Beretta - Oldest gun manufacturer in the world owned by one family since 1470 - barrel selector on top tang safety - butt end of stock sealed at factory for maximum water resistence - excellent barrel to barrel mating system resulting in no worries about effects of vibration - no tougher lock up system on the market - no better ejection system on the market - everything standard that other manufacturers note as features - very tough hinge pin in receiver - accessories galore - Basic Gunsmithing? Stop in the Beretta Gallery in NYC or Dallas and it's done for no charge in most cases.

Beretta Blackwings are at $999.00 to $1,105. I looked at the Winchester Supremes, Browning Citoris, and Ruger Red Labels. After much research and interviews with owners, I chose Beretta for my first O/U.

See my post here for a pic.

December 31, 2002, 11:51 PM
Yup Beretta.

January 1, 2003, 12:00 AM
Browning's needing service?

Go here and puruse their website, you'll be impressed!

Browning's Home (http://www.browning.com/homepage/index.asp)

I have 12 Browning's, never needed service on any of them. But, if you do, their customer service is second to none. I have called them with questions and been well taken care of.

Red Label
January 1, 2003, 11:03 AM
I'm sure Brownings and Berettas are both good but I bought me a Red Label last year and haven't been sorry yet. They are advertised to have an easy opening system and they do. Some guys say they are "loose" but thats just the way they are made. Mine feels and shoots just lovely. The only thing I don't like is the automatic safety which seems to be a more common thing on a lot of new guns now.


January 1, 2003, 11:25 AM
It's difficult to wear out a good O/U unless you shoot an enormous amount of shells. I would pick the one that feels the best and priced to your needs. There are lot's of good used guns on the market. Just be sure the bbls have not been altered.
If you primary activity is hunting any of the three mentioned is fine. If you intend to shoot a lot of clay targets I might opt for the Browning or Beretta.
Good luck

Gary G23
January 1, 2003, 12:08 PM
Either Browning or Beretta. The reason? RESALE VALUE.

January 1, 2003, 05:49 PM
Was looking hard at the Red Label but think I will research the Beretta & decide which model..

Many Thanks,

Will Beararms
January 1, 2003, 11:04 PM
Beretta Black Eagle for Blued receiver or the Beretta Whitewing for the silver receiver with blued barrels. These are good entry level guns that will last a lifetime and cost $1,085.00 tax included in most cases.

'Not to sound arrogant but the new Blackwing I have reminds me of the days of Old when shot guns had the deep walnut with tiger stripes and a heavy coating alonng with the deep bluing like the old Brownings and Remingtons.

I looked at the Winchester Supremes and Rugers and yes they were well built but the Beretta was well built, beautiful and in the same price range.

January 2, 2003, 12:37 AM
On a resale point of view I would do the following:
Buy a used Browning Citori or Superposed in the highest grade I could afford.

You can shoot it for 10 years and then sell it for more than you paid.

January 3, 2003, 11:15 AM
I have a Ruger O/U which cost $650 used. Very nice shotgun, but my next O/U will definitely be a Browning Citori. The Browning just seems more refined with a design that's stood the test of time.

Will Beararms
January 3, 2003, 12:01 PM
Hey the Beretta design build concept started in 1562. There are some things that irk hunters like the mechanical plunger type of ejectors and inertia triggers but they do make a good bore. In fact they make all Benelli bores too. 477 years is alot of experience. I like the Browning too, very solid nice weapon.

January 3, 2003, 12:25 PM
Narrowed down to the Beretta & the Browning...
What would be a decent price for an older Browning & what model?____
How does the service compare between Beretta & Browning.
GunsAmerica site has a few for around $750..

January 3, 2003, 01:00 PM
Fausti...another arms maker from GVT. I saw a beautiful model sold under the "Traditions" nameplate for under $700 at walmart

Will Beararms
January 3, 2003, 02:20 PM
I have never had any trouble with Beretta on a 92FS handgun and an AL 390 but others say customer service is not good. Every time I call Beretta I get an answer by the third ring.

Browning has good customer service I am told.

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