How do you hold your Glock?


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ChristopherG
March 19, 2003, 05:25 PM
At our local competitive (IDPA) shoot last night, I...well, I sucked. I've been experimenting with different positions for my support hand, shooting a Glock 17.

Today, in light of last night's debacle, I think I've figured out that my Glock requires a different hold than the one that feels so natural on a 1911, for instance. Holding one of JMB's guns, the support hand can ride way up there, and the strong hand thumb really doesn't have anything better to do than ride the safety. But with a Glock, I really think I need to get the strong hand thumb more actively into the grip, and wrap it down toward the trigger guard; but this means the support hand is basically reduced to a low grasp around the front of the grip; and all this just doesn't line up right unless I'm shooting something that looks a lot like a Weaver stance.

This feels like a bit of a breakthrough for me, in understanding the fit of this particular gun to this particular body, and I'm just wondering if any of you Glock shooters have found something similar. I'd take pictures of what I'm talking about, but wifey has the digicam today, so I'll have to add them later. In the meantime, anyone know what I'm talking about?

Cg

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Tag
March 19, 2003, 05:38 PM
to my understanding, a glock is designed to index properly with a tight grip. I squeez the hell out of mine, line up my shot, then relax off the grip till it stops shaking. I usually feel the most pressure at the back of my strong hand and the sides of my support hand.

Lot's of dryfiring has helped more than anything.

Boats
March 19, 2003, 06:36 PM
You take the Glock in your right hand. Elevate and extend your arm. Rotate your wrist counterclockwise 90 degrees or so. Extend your elbow out slightly and dip your hand about 15 degrees. Now without proper breathing, off hand support, or aiming, pull the trigger as fast as you can while you stab your hand forward and back in the general direction of the target.

Now you're ready to bust some caps!

Drjones
March 19, 2003, 07:03 PM
Word to your mother, Boats, word to your mother...















:D

Al Thompson
March 19, 2003, 08:14 PM
:rolleyes:

Hkmp5sd
March 19, 2003, 08:22 PM
I put a Hogue Handall on myG17, took it to the range and shot while moving it around until I got the best grip. Now I automatically have the best grip every time I hold the gun.

bad_dad_brad
March 19, 2003, 08:39 PM
If this is the first time you have shot a Glock, well the trigger does take some getting used to, expecially if you are used to the crisp SA of an M1911. Your grip should be firm but not tight. Keep your thumb away from the slide.

The Glock is very pointable and recoil in 9mm is mild. It was my first semi-automatic, so I was weaned on the Glock trigger, and was not spoiled by the SA crispness aforementioned.

Just keep practicing and you will get better.

Blackhawk
March 20, 2003, 03:42 AM
With your strong hand being the right one:

Left fingers overlap right fingers.

Left thumb alongside the slide.

Left heel of hand against the grip.

Right thumb on top of left thumb knuckle.

Notice that the left wrist is ahead of the right wrist.

Tighten the grip.

Notice that your trigger finger is completely independent of the rest of the hands/gun "grip assembly"

Raise the empty gun to a target with arms extended while keeping the grip very tight.

Have somebody try to move the muzzle laterally.

Notice that they have to move your whole upper body because your whole upper body is locked up tight into the grip and immovable gun.

Now go to the range and do some live fire with that grip.

:D

Schuey2002
March 20, 2003, 03:44 AM
Al, I second your sediment.

:rolleyes:

Drjones
March 20, 2003, 03:48 AM
Whatsa matta?

You guys sit on your Glocks? :scrutiny:

Sheesh!

Its a joke!


:rolleyes:

faustulus
March 20, 2003, 06:19 AM
Bring the Glock up just as you would any gun with a normal grip angle. Then lower the muzzle two inches.;)

Tacblack
March 21, 2003, 01:23 AM
I tried the Glock's 3 times and ran into the grip angle problem, I fixed it buy selling them all. But I have heard putting different sleeves on them can make the angle better. Of course this makes the grip bigger.

SDC
March 21, 2003, 08:38 AM
One of the things I like about Glocks in general is that they have a very low bore axis; ie. the barrel sits so low in your hand that the recoil comes straight back instead of trying to pivot the muzzle up. My hold is as high as possible to maximixe that, so my strong hand is up tight against the tang, and my support hand is also as high as possible; usually, I end up using a "finger-forward" hold, with the index finger of my off hand around the front of the trigger-guard, and the pinky finger laying between the pinky and third finger of my strong hand.

Kharn
March 21, 2003, 11:06 AM
With thumb and fore-finger, arm extended away from body as far as possible. Other hand holds nose closed.
My 1911s would kill me if they found out I handled a Glock.

Kharn
[Sorry, just had to say it. :evil: ]

Onslaught
March 21, 2003, 11:29 AM
Because of the grip angle difference between the Glocks and every other pistol I've ever owned, I was having the same probems. They just never felt quite "right".

Here's what I finally did to fix the problem...

I would hold one of my Glocks in my left hand, palm facing up. Then I'd hold out my right hand, also palm up. Next, someone would come along and put money in my right hand, then take the Glock from my left hand, and we'd both walk away happy. :D

I did that until I had no more Glocks, and my accuracy has improved considerably :cool:

kalibear45
March 21, 2003, 06:21 PM
I hold it sideways like a true O.G., point it at the silhouette target, rapid fire a mag, and yell "Dats what you git mofo!"

:D

SoDFW Jason
March 21, 2003, 06:36 PM
Boats beat me to it. Peace out dogs.

Gewehr98
March 21, 2003, 09:18 PM
http://www.birdman.org/images/hnsbig.jpg

:D

Tacblack
March 21, 2003, 10:21 PM
I just had to say the reply by "Boats" is the funniest thing I have read on THR yet

bad_dad_brad
March 21, 2003, 11:46 PM
I find my Glocks very combat accurate. Just put the white dot in the white box and shoot what is just above the white dot. I have no problem hitting what I aim at within 10 yards. A very effective handgun combat sighting system. Works for me.

SDC
March 22, 2003, 01:40 AM
I not only find them combat accurate, I find them TARGET accurate; I've had IPSC stages (prone, at 35 yards) where I could cover the A-zone group (6 rounds) with half a playing-card. If there's one thing that most of the Glock bashers out there don't realize, it's that trigger technique is the KEY; if you simply mash the trigger down, you can't expect the same flash sight picture or hold each time, so of course you're going to get shots jerked low and left. If you want decent groups from ANY safe-action/double-action/DAO, you're going to have to stage the trigger to the point where it is almost ready to break, take a sight picture, and then complete the squeeze.

stevelyn
March 22, 2003, 12:21 PM
Boats,

Just want to let you know that while reading your post, I discovered Starbucks French Roast possesses a funny 'bouquet' as it shoots forcefully through one's nose. :D

As to the original post, Robar does grip reductions on Glocks and in effect can change the grip angle to a more conventional angle. I currently have a G-22 and it fits me fine. However, I want a G-21 and when I finally get one, I'm having the Robar treatment done on the grip to reduce it's size and take a little arch out of the backstrap.

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