One heck of a slamfire...


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Slater
June 23, 2005, 10:38 AM
http://www.orchard-family.net/wwiiol/artillerie_kickback1.wmv

That's gonna leave a mark.

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280PLUS
June 23, 2005, 11:11 AM
Now you know why they do all those sit ups... :eek:

I wonder what kind of shape he was in afterwards.

NC Shooter
June 23, 2005, 11:24 AM
Ouch, That had to hurt.

sturmruger
June 23, 2005, 11:51 AM
I hope he was wearing a flak vest or something to help with the contact from the breach hitting him. It looked just like movies where some guy gets hit with a .44 and goes flying back 30 feet. I bet the poor guy flew back at least 30 feet!!

dev_null
June 23, 2005, 11:52 AM
So, you know that adage about how foolishness should be painful...?

Sergeant Sabre
June 23, 2005, 11:54 AM
So there is a reason they train our guys not to stand behind the cannon...

Gung-Ho
June 23, 2005, 11:58 AM
But I bet he can hit those high notes now.

Chipperman
June 23, 2005, 12:00 PM
:what:

Do you know where this came from, or how the poor guy is recovering?

280PLUS
June 23, 2005, 12:27 PM
Reminds me of a story about the Union"s "Mortar Flotilla" where they lashed one of those chowder pot mortars to the foc'sle of a schooner and the recommended place to stand when firing was behind the gun. The first time it was to be fired the sailors would have none of it and hid elswhere. The gun then ripped from it's lashing and would have killed anyone standing behind it! :eek:

mete
June 23, 2005, 12:38 PM
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction - basic physics !

DarkKnight01
June 23, 2005, 01:18 PM
That was mildly entertaining... Love how the other guys just kinda stand there... like nothing happened...

J Miller
June 23, 2005, 02:44 PM
After watching this video a couple times, I'm not sure how the guy could have survived if he didn't have any chest protection. His chest cavity has to be mush. His ribs must surely all be shattered.

A possible candidate for the Darwin awards.

And the rest of the dufuses, just stand there and look at the poor guy, then saunter over like nothings happened. Morons.


Joe

middy
June 23, 2005, 03:03 PM
Yes. It looks like he could easily have been killed. Not funny at all, IMHO.

At the very least he suffered broken ribs and probably punctured lungs.

Cesiumsponge
June 23, 2005, 03:31 PM
Watch closely as the guy flies back. You can see him dissapear from the left temporarily but catch a glimse of his foot again afterwards for a second when he likely landed and bounced back from whatever object he flew back against. When the cameraman pans over you can see a large post with (barbed?) wire strug on it running left to what I assume is another post.

It looks like he flew back and something stopped him. I would add major back injuries to the running list.

Henry Bowman
June 23, 2005, 03:36 PM
Dupe thread. Old news. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=143776

Gewehr98
June 23, 2005, 06:41 PM
But even in the original thread, nobody answers what happened with the cannon, and with the recipient of the cannon's recoil. Ouch!

dev_null
June 23, 2005, 07:59 PM
What else I noticed was the other guy just sort of sauntering over, not terribly interested in checking on him.

bogie
June 23, 2005, 09:05 PM
Hey, I don't think that fellow was "sauntering." I think he was saying "Ohmigawd! What do I do now?" Shock does that to a lot of folks - All in all, I think that actually moved pretty fast, considering that the unexpected had just happened to 'em.

Clean97GTI
June 23, 2005, 11:26 PM
How would such a thing happen?

I understand the stupid part about standing behind a piece of artillery, but was the round defective or is there something mechanical in the weapon that failed.

Actually guys, your chest cavity can compress quite a bit without doing serious damage. I'd guess a few broken ribs and a sore back.
Punctured lungs...probably not.
He may be peeing blood for a while though.

SouthpawShootr
June 23, 2005, 11:33 PM
I wonder if this could have been some sort of cookoff. No telling if they had been doing sustained fire and for how long. Either that or the shell was defective.

kennh
June 23, 2005, 11:36 PM
I am dubious, why would modern soldiers be firing a WWII vintage 57mm?

Slater
June 23, 2005, 11:44 PM
It's kind of hard to tell, but those might be South Korean or Taiwan personnel.

Ric
June 24, 2005, 09:37 AM
They look like Korean (ROK) army to me.
I had a breech open and roll my fingers in the lock, broke my index finger. :fire:
the cannon has a lever on the side to raise the breechblock into position. You are supposed to be standing next to the breech when you close it. But I've seen the ROK army do some wild things like;
swab the bore with diesel (makes one heck of a fireball)
put up camo nets with branches and sticks
use real CS when they train
beat the daylights out of someone that screws up

SouthpawShootr
June 24, 2005, 10:12 AM
You are supposed to be standing next to the breech when you close it.

Probably why these things are typically fired by 3 or 4 man teams. One guy handles ammo and nothing else, one (off to the side) handles the breech, I have no idea what the others do, but the seems to me the loader should never be the one closing the breech let alone firing the artillery piece. That's why this guy got hit, malfunction or not. I don't think he's even supposed to be the one closing the breech. Any artillery experts here that could shed some light on this? There was a history channel piece a while back (Wild West Tech, I believe) where a guy was demonstrating a small cannon and used a 3 man team. I think this was a civil war/old West era Hotchkiss cannon. Said it would normally have a 4 man team. Loader does nothing but stick the shell in the chamber. So this apparently has been the practice for at least a century

Roadkill
June 24, 2005, 10:05 PM
"After watching this video a couple times, I'm not sure how the guy could have survived if he didn't have any chest protection. His chest cavity has to be mush. His ribs must surely all be shattered. "

Not always. Stranger things have happened. This happened to me five years ago. Humvee, training exercise, night. I went home after 48 hours in ICU. Busted ribs, crushed sternum, the air in my lungs was pushed out all over and looked like bubble wrap. Talk about sore.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/297132.jpg

rk

Kharn
June 24, 2005, 10:38 PM
They're all wearing flak vests, you can tell because the vest is a slightly darker shade of camo than the uniform and the hard edges all over the place from it. And yes, very stupid for him to be firing it alone when he has a whole crew standing around him capable of doing the proper drill.

Kharn

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